[AMA] IG Automation + Monetization - DEADZ

DEADZ · May 11, 2018

pinita22 said:
Hey deadz! Lets say l wanna promote a make up give away. The landing could be a brand web? Or sephora lets say? Or l need to create a landing for the offer? Thanks so much for ur time.

Depends on how many accounts will be linking to this landing page. If you're planning to do more than (let's say) 3-5 accounts: You'll need to use pre-landers/bridge pages (or a cloaker) instead and keep the links used on each account unique.

zzARzz said:
Hello, I have some questions before starting:
I'm aiming to start with 20-25 hoping to get 10$/day. I have some questions first.
1) I'll use "get free..." method with a landing page from OGAds, what am I supposed to link it? I mean I buy my own domain and cloak it ( I don't even know what that means if you could explain please)?
2) Is 1 dedicated Instagram proxy good for every 2 accounts?
3) How many actions should I do per day? Is commenting on people photos with a bot safe?
4) Should I do them all in the same niche? Broad niche like Free Insta Followers are still working or should I get into a specific niche>
5) Should I post some content in the accounts or should I only let them plain with a profile, a description, and a link?
6) Is doing all the accounts with the same name but only differentiate numbers ( ex: freefollower22; freefollowers23 ...) safe?

1. Use a pre-lander (Blogger, Tumblr, etc) page with a button that leads to your ogads lp. Keep the link on your accounts & pre-landers unique by at least passing them through bitly. Buying your domain and putting the ogads lp on it is not cloaking.
2. No. 1:1.
3. Depends on your account age. Stay below 2 per minute & 60 per hour & max 800 per day. Yes.
4. Split test and decide for yourself.
5. Up to you.
6. Not really. Unless you know what you're doing.

I suggest you read both my AMA threads. Some of these questions (and more) have been answered multiple times.

ilais said:
firstly, thank you ^^
question:
1- how many follow/unfollow per hour do you suggest??? Aged account and new ones!!

Answered above #3.

Jake150 said:
Hey Deadz, firstly thank you for creating the thread. I ended up becoming a member of the discord due to value given

Had a couple of more detailed questions in regards to scaling and automating operations. for reference I am only focusing on whitehat account growth via Jarvee right now.

For some background info, I've just started growing 6 accounts. I want to put this over 30 over the next 1-2 months, all in the same niche (there's a reason for it; don't worry)

1) If I remember correctly, you have 200-300 accounts, I am assuming these are mostly blackhat as that is mostly what you do. My Q is: How do you manage and produce content for a large number of whitehat accounts as one person? What systems do you have in place? Is it just scraping old content that has performed well then doing captions & scheduling? What is the Standard operating procedure that you or your VA follows?

2) If you use scraping for this, What is the best scraping tool you're using? if it's Just Jarvee's tool then filtering content to respected pages & deleting whatever you dont want? and if it has settings what are you doing to get the premium content to build your audience fast

3) Streetwear niche, any growth tips? it seems like a harder niche considering you can't post a video of a lion coming up to a baby with a red circle around it (at least if you want to keep content related) Most of it just seems to be nike vs adidas, 1, 2, 3 or 4 etc(just engagement baiting). Seems like it's mostly fake giveaways with other accounts to cross-promote eachother & tagging + some engagement tactics

4) Cheap & fastest way to grow a streetwear account to above 50k followers, I'd like to have an established account to cross-promote other pages so they can grow faster. Would it be shoutouts / ads / powerlikes?

5) Most effective methods for cross-promoting your own accounts with each other. Current methods, Liking, commenting, tagging, bio @Page, fake giveaways in exchange for following X, X, X accounts. Let me know if you've got some killer methods as well.

Thanks pal sorry for the big bast, but these are things that are bottlenecking me atm, main problem is slow growth due to being new to IG and need some more time to find what works & build an audience.

1. I don't do mostly blackhat. I started with blackhat in 2016 and quickly funneled all my earnings into promoting whitehat & recurring affiliate offers. That's what I suggest everyone does (Unless you're a real pro and really know what you're doing).

I only have a few WH accounts which are on auto re-post from niche related accounts that have max 100-200k followers. And I don't have a VA. If I'm promoting a specific ecom/affiliate program/offer I make 12-24 promo posts that form a beautiful wall design and maybe 1-2 videos made from After Effects templates that are set to re-post every 3 days on stories.

I'll explain: The most accounts I had working at one time (in 2017) was about 800. 80-90 of those are "whitehat/ecom". I took 100% of the IG+CPA earnings and poured it into promoting recurring affiliate programs & high payout offers with hard KPI's. At the moment all of this is set & forget and if at one point all the IG accounts die. I won't (nor do I need to) start over with IG+BH.

2. I set the repost tool to only repost posts that have 5%+ engagement rate (So for example: if source account has 100k followers. Set it to only repost the posts that have 5k+ likes). Promotional posts usually don't get a lot of engagement. + I set the delete tool to delete any low performing posts. So if my average engagement on an account is 10%, I'll set the tool to delete any post that has less then 8% after 2-3 days.

3 & 4. Use hashtag research (or buy a service that does this). Then stack your hashtags (explained it before in this thread) and use powerlikes (or an autolikes service) or set your accounts to like the posts of all your other accounts.

5. That's pretty much it already. Or instead of having them follow X, X, X accounts have them tag 5-10 friends.

tickleme said:
Do you still recommend followers niche to start with or is it too saturated at this point?

Is $2/day per account for followers niche with 400 follows a day + liking 0-2 of the user's posts still realistic?

I always recommend(ed) Free Followers niche as it's the easiest to get into. It gives beginners enough room to "breathe" & make mistakes while learning.

Adult/Dating is more profitable, evergreen and easy to target but has high ban-rates.
Other niches don't have a high ban-rate but they require good targeting to be profitable and not all are evergreen.
Going direct SOI offer can also be hard to target & link to without having any problems.

These days $0.3-1 is more realistic with 400 follows + 0-2 likes. (Based on my observation of most peoples setups & targeting skills).

You need to understand:
How to keep your accounts safe.
How to have a high converting setup. (30% CTR/CVR all throughout)
How to target.

Then your accounts can hit $2+... Maybe even more.

ethanjun · May 11, 2018

what if i go with adult niche like chaturbate affiliate ? will the tumblr cloaker works with it? or instagram will manually check my accounts and ban it? noob here

Im thinking lets say something like in the bio saying "follow and chat with me without restriction here > link <"

then bitly > tumblr cloaker > charturbate affiliate link

DEADZ · May 12, 2018

ethanjun said:
what if i go with adult niche like chaturbate affiliate ? will the tumblr cloaker works with it? or instagram will manually check my accounts and ban it? noob here

Im thinking lets say something like in the bio saying "follow and chat with me without restriction here > link <"

then bitly > tumblr cloaker > charturbate affiliate link

Pre-lander will work (Just make sure the link you're putting in the pre-lander is unique - use goo.gl or bitly) but doesn't guarantee your accounts are safe. Your automation, words used in bio + username + full name area, reports on your account, etc can also get you banned.

ethanjun · May 12, 2018

thanks @DEADZ, I think I will stick on my niche gift cards generators, I'm running 11 accounts right now and I will play with it for a while following your instructions. So first goal is not to get banned then get a steady traffic flow then scale it up while doing also my seo on my site. Thanks again

zzARzz · May 12, 2018

Hello DEADZ I'm sorry for disturbing you lol but I have a few more questions:
1) I don't understand how am I supposed to get the user to the CPA offer. I have an OGAds account and they offer me a pre-lander for a specific niche, should I just take the link and put it in my bio? If not what should I do?
2) Is there a real difference between Instagram proxies and Dedicated proxies?

M3ow · May 12, 2018

Hi, I'm new affiliate marketing so your thread have been a greate help, thanks.

1. I've been thinking to try something more interesting than free followers, like crypto niche (I've been working whitehat ppc on crypto projects and those guys have just shitload of money). Do you think it's worth trying if I manage to make good targeting?
2. Most offers have "no incent" restriction, does that mean you can't use content lockers with them?
3. I've seen that you don't recommend to post content in the accounts. Does it hurt your accounts to actually post niche related content?

tickleme · May 12, 2018

I read on another forum you use a different phone verifiy service (not Valar's API). Do you get lower ban rates with that or something?

Macscotty · May 14, 2018

Hello DEADZ

I have problem with making money on niche free followers. Part of the account is developed manually, and part by the bot, but unfortunately it is difficult for me to achieve the result of $ 0.5 per account per day/one account. Could you indicate where is the error, how can I improve my earnings ? Thank you for help.

DEADZ · May 16, 2018

zzARzz said:
Hello DEADZ I'm sorry for disturbing you lol but I have a few more questions:
1) I don't understand how am I supposed to get the user to the CPA offer. I have an OGAds account and they offer me a pre-lander for a specific niche, should I just take the link and put it in my bio? If not what should I do?
2) Is there a real difference between Instagram proxies and Dedicated proxies?

1. Read both my AMA threads and use google for this one.
2. Not all proxies are meant for Instagram. Some straight up won't work with the platform/website itself and give errors and some will not allow you to do much when it comes to automation & being safe.

M3ow said:
Hi, I'm new affiliate marketing so your thread have been a greate help, thanks.

1. I've been thinking to try something more interesting than free followers, like crypto niche (I've been working whitehat ppc on crypto projects and those guys have just shitload of money). Do you think it's worth trying if I manage to make good targeting?
2. Most offers have "no incent" restriction, does that mean you can't use content lockers with them?
3. I've seen that you don't recommend to post content in the accounts. Does it hurt your accounts to actually post niche related content?

1. Yes. Very much. I've converted on some crypto offers in the past. (But also required me answering DM's). Jarvee has a screen where you can see all dm's on your accounts and respond from there which makes everything a lot easier (also for adult niche).
2. That's correct. No incent means you can't incentivize the traffic as in giving something (or promising to give) in return for them completing the offer.
3. No, it doesn't for all niches. But certain niches, it increases the ban rate as your (potentially) also increasing the number of reports people can do on your accounts.

tickleme said:
I read on another forum you use a different phone verifiy service (not Valar's API). Do you get lower ban rates with that or something?

I don't know what the success rate is for valar. The ones I use have an average of 60-70% and for important accounts, I pay $1 for 100% success rate. (Can't mention services as that can be seen as promo).

Macscotty said:
Hello DEADZ

I have problem with making money on niche free followers. Part of the account is developed manually, and part by the bot, but unfortunately it is difficult for me to achieve the result of $ 0.5 per account per day/one account. Could you indicate where is the error, how can I improve my earnings ? Thank you for help.

Can be any (or all) of these:
1. Your setup is not convincing (Profile picture, username, bio, pre-lander, landing page, etc). You should be getting a 30% ctr/cvr throughout the whole setup.
2. Your targeting is bad. Target specific follow ratios between 0.5-1.5 (when your targeting is good this will be a specific number) and target people that are most likely to want followers: teens. and don't engage with people that have above a certain amount of followers (I.E. 1000).
3. Bad locker setup (or network). CPI offers convert the best for IG traffic. But CPA & PIN offers have higher payouts. Some networks have better CPA offers then others. While others have better (and more) CPI offers then others.

Macscotty · May 16, 2018

2. My bot have the same settings as you wrote. I try to aim at teens. I'm aiming for disney characters, youth bands, artists that are watched by teens
3. I use oGads and landing page from them

tickleme · May 21, 2018

1. What is the highest number of accounts you have in an instance of Jarvee?

2. Can once instance of Jarvee actually finish 400 follows + couple likes per follow + 400 unfollows for 500 accounts in 24 hours with the 200 maximum simultaneous IG connections setting?

3. Have you ever tried lowering "Suspend tool when getting temporary blocked between" from your setting of 360-720 minutes? Did it increase bans or keep the accounts/proxies action blocked longer?

Thanks.

jaycewarrior · May 21, 2018

Hi Deadz, Ihave a question, so lately im receiving so much api blocks on jarvee. have you face like this issue znf fo you know any solution for this ? thank you

Moonlight1 · May 23, 2018

Read through all pages and just wanted to thank you for your effort to answer all questions!
It's really a goldmine of information.

InitialLotus · May 23, 2018

Hi deadz.

How can i reach 500 follow a day if my set up is

Minute per after operation is 120 - 190 mins

DEADZ · May 26, 2018

Macscotty said:
2. My bot have the same settings as you wrote. I try to aim at teens. I'm aiming for disney characters, youth bands, artists that are watched by teens
3. I use oGads and landing page from them

Try to get a premium landing page. I think it's a big conversion boost from the standard ogads lp's. + think about getting a cloaker.

subexpro said:
Spectacular post.. Even conversation under this thread also useful

Thanks mate! Really appreciate that.

tickleme said:
1. What is the highest number of accounts you have in an instance of Jarvee?

2. Can once instance of Jarvee actually finish 400 follows + couple likes per follow + 400 unfollows for 500 accounts in 24 hours with the 200 maximum simultaneous IG connections setting?

3. Have you ever tried lowering "Suspend tool when getting temporary blocked between" from your setting of 360-720 minutes? Did it increase bans or keep the accounts/proxies action blocked longer?

Thanks.

1. 500. 200 Simultaneous Connections. Some people do 300 connections.
2. Yes. If it's not finishing within 24 hours (and your settings are good) then your vps/server is bottlenecking your bot and you need to upgrade.
3. It doesn't really increase the bans (for me). But action blocks don't go away if these settings are bad.

jaycewarrior said:
Hi Deadz, Ihave a question, so lately im receiving so much api blocks on jarvee. have you face like this issue znf fo you know any solution for this ? thank you

I think everyone does to some extent. Use Embedded Browser (on jarvee) and it will be ok.

Moonlight1 said:
Read through all pages and just wanted to thank you for your effort to answer all questions!
It's really a goldmine of information.

Thanks a lot mate! Really appreciate that.

InitialLotus said:
Hi deadz.

How can i reach 500 follow a day if my set up is

Minute per after operation is 120 - 190 mins

Minute per operation shouldn't be 120-190. More like 10-20 or something.

Sleep after 20-30 operation rounds should be 120-190.

tickleme · May 26, 2018

1. Have you noticed in Jarvee if you copy the Follow tool settings from 1 new account to the rest of the new accounts with 0-10 initial follows per day, after enabling the follow tool it automatically jumps to 25-35 per day for all those new accounts?

2. Have you noticed a difference between using .com, .net, or .org domains? Does .com give the accounts lesser spam score in your testing?

3. Are you using 1 domain per account now or still 5 per?

4. If you are cloaking does the final cloaked destination matter if you are using it multiple times for multiple domains? Example: 10 .com's all redirect to google.com for cloaked visitors. Would you use 10 different authority URLs instead?

Macscotty · May 26, 2018

Thank you, DEADZ for reply.

I have one more question. As I mentioned above, I apply the strategy IG Bio -> Pre-Lander -> Landing Page from oGads. Unfortunately, the conversion is not too high. Could you recommend some way to not use Pre-Lander because it reduces conversions, but in turn a direct transition to Landing Page will make me get a ban.

Can you recommend any solution?

DEADZ · May 26, 2018

tickleme said:
1. Have you noticed in Jarvee if you copy the Follow tool settings from 1 new account to the rest of the new accounts with 0-10 initial follows per day, after enabling the follow tool it automatically jumps to 25-35 per day for all those new accounts?

2. Have you noticed a difference between using .com, .net, or .org domains? Does .com give the accounts lesser spam score in your testing?

3. Are you using 1 domain per account now or still 5 per?

4. If you are cloaking does the final cloaked destination matter if you are using it multiple times for multiple domains? Example: 10 .com's all redirect to google.com for cloaked visitors. Would you use 10 different authority URLs instead?

1. Yes, I do. Just copy the settings to the other accounts again. This usually happens when the other accounts have the tool set to off (or it's the 1st action of the day).

2. Yes. and Yes. The .com domains allowed me to use the same domain on more accounts (5 for BH CPA & 10-15 for WH/ECOM) + extremely lower ban-rates.

3. 5 for BH CPA & 10-15 for WH/ECOM.

4. In my opinion it does (or at least gives you a bigger footprint) and I try to keep the final destination url (only the safe page) unique per .com domain. I usually take a youtube video related to the accounts niche.

Macscotty said:
Thank you, DEADZ for reply.

I have one more question. As I mentioned above, I apply the strategy IG Bio -> Pre-Lander -> Landing Page from oGads. Unfortunately, the conversion is not too high. Could you recommend some way to not use Pre-Lander because it reduces conversions, but in turn a direct transition to Landing Page will make me get a ban.

Can you recommend any solution?

Cloaker. I can't explain much about it since I already did in this thread (and the other one I think) + if I do it can be seen as promo. So you'll have to research that on your own. I recommend you read through my AMA threads I'm pretty sure I already explained it.

tickleme · May 26, 2018

Do you wait at least an hour before profiling another account with the same domain? Or how long do you wait?

1. I've been doing 1 conversion to unlock locker and thought it was making me more money than 2 (I have low data though). What did you find is the best # for overall revenue for follower niche with all your data? (I know your guide says 2-4) Did 2-4 always bring you more revenue than 1? I was worried it would deter a visitor from even completing 1 offer once they see all that they have to do.

2. Have you ever had accounts that you can't login to with embedded browser/any browser but can login with Jarvee's API or mobile app? When you try to login the IG login page just reloads with no error message. Any idea what's up with these accounts? Has happened to me on 5-6 accounts out of 150 or so.

InitialLotus · May 29, 2018

Deadz when you mean rest the accounts.. do you mean pause them at the bot(log out the account)?.. or just pause the module (but the account is still logged in with not doing anything)?

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