Help! Question about my backlinking method

Hello,

My goal is to get more traffic, improve the rankings of some of my articles. The site already has some good traffic, and it is generating money, so I take this seriously and I'm aiming for the long term. Something sustainable.

I've been acquiring backlinks so far, by using on google "write for" or "guest post" followed by the name of the niche.

Is that considered "white hat"?

I've been receiving tons of offers from link farming sites, but I've been rejecting them all since they seem to be a massive threat to associate with, so the only way I was acquiring links was by using the method described earlier.

I check the site I acquire manually for their backlinks sites, sudden drop/acquisition of keywords/links, if those sites have some actual traffic which might justify not being penalized by google.

So considering the above, would you say that it's safe to continue with my on-going method for the long term well-being of my site?

I think yes, you doing pretty good job!
Do you pay for guest posts?

kurosaki4d said:

"Is that considered "white hat"?

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NO
you acquire links to improve search results thus it's blackhat

Yes, but try to bring some organic traffic from different sources, like broken link building or some social media.

@ahmedtarek8572
Yes, I do pay for most of them.

@praetserge
In your opinion, what would be considered to be white hat backlinking tactics?

@perocJ
Thanks for the sound advice. I used broken links but in a sense that I find some misspelled domains in authority sites, and I go buy those misspelled domains from the registrars to backlink them to one of my articles. Is that considered a "broken link building"?

kurosaki4d said:

@praetserge
In your opinion, what would be considered to be white hat backlinking tactics?

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Building links to improve your rankings is BLACKHAT.
There's not such thing as whitehat link building. There's no whitehat SEO.

I think other answers might be confusing you. The official answer is that you should never pay for acquiring links, and building links to manipulate the SERP is not allowed. BUT there are not many other ways of ranking a website, so, those are the ways you would do.

Ah, just don't buy those "packages" of thousands of links, they are all bad. Keep in mind, 1 good link is better than hundreds bad ones. So buying a link here and there, shouldn't hurt much. Make sure they are real personal websites, and not websites they use just to post paid links.

pixyer said:

I think other answers might be confusing you. The official answer is that you should never pay for acquiring links, and building links to manipulate the SERP is not allowed. BUT there are not many other ways of ranking a website, so, those are the ways you would do.

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Indeed, it is confusing. So I guess the only way is through natural outreach, ask other sites to look to your article that is better than the competitors to which they are linking?

pixyer said:

Ah, just don't buy those "packages" of thousands of links, they are all bad. Keep in mind, 1 good link is better than hundreds bad ones. So buying a link here and there, shouldn't hurt much. Make sure they are real personal websites, and not websites they use just to post paid links.

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I never buy those packages, I focus on one site/link at a time, but they usual offer guest posting. They core activity is not selling links, but it's a side thing that they offer.

Do you personal have some experience in using guest posts for backlinking?

kurosaki4d said:

Indeed, it is confusing. So I guess the only way is through natural outreach, ask other sites to look to your article that is better than the competitors to which they are linking?



I never buy those packages, I focus on one site/link at a time, but they usual offer guest posting. They core activity is not selling links, but it's a side thing that they offer.

Do you personal have some experience in using guest posts for backlinking?

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I will try to be more clear. The official and proper way, following all google guidelines, is through natural outreach, like you mentioned. But who does that? If you try, you may see how difficult it turns out. People don't want to link to you, who are you to them after all? Unless they find you super super relevant, which it may not be the case most of times. I mean, you can try, but it might not be as easy as you expect.

Then, if not this way, what is left? There are websites that allow you posting and give you do follow links. Not easy to find, but there are some. Other than that, there's paid guest posting. Not allowed, officially, but it's the only way. Your approach on focusing on acquiring each one link rather than packages, it's proper. It will take time, one by one, but in the long run you won't lose your website and hopefully you'll achieve the result. Try to focus on real one websites. Many providers offer one guest post, but then they have huge lists of websites. So those are possibly not the sites you want to be in, as they are finally PBNs, although they don't mention it. Being in one may help rather than hurt, then again if you go for the package it may hurt. Hard to say. In my experience I always try to go for the person that only has one standalone website.

its not whitehat if you build artificial links, but will it get you into trouble with google? the chance is very low. so just keep going.

pixyer said:

I will try to be more clear. The official and proper way, following all google guidelines, is through natural outreach, like you mentioned. But who does that? If you try, you may see how difficult it turns out. People don't want to link to you, who are you to them after all? Unless they find you super super relevant, which it may not be the case most of times. I mean, you can try, but it might not be as easy as you expect.

Then, if not this way, what is left? There are websites that allow you posting and give you do follow links. Not easy to find, but there are some. Other than that, there's paid guest posting. Not allowed, officially, but it's the only way. Your approach on focusing on acquiring each one link rather than packages, it's proper. It will take time, one by one, but in the long run you won't lose your website and hopefully you'll achieve the result. Try to focus on real one websites. Many providers offer one guest post, but then they have huge lists of websites. So those are possibly not the sites you want to be in, as they are finally PBNs, although they don't mention it. Being in one may help rather than hurt, then again if you go for the package it may hurt. Hard to say. In my experience I always try to go for the person that only has one standalone website.

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Great simplified response!
Thanks a lot,
I am planning to buy some guest post links? What are the average prices? (So I don't get fooled and pay a high price for a low-quality site)?

kurosaki4d said:

Yes, I do pay for most of them.

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How much do you pay for them? Like what are the range of prices for a specific DR (30 for example) website?

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ahmedtarek8572 said:

Great simplified response!
Thanks a lot,
I am planning to buy some guest post links? What are the average prices? (So I don't get fooled and pay a high price for a low-quality site)?


How much do you pay for them? Like what are the range of prices for a specific DR (30 for example) website?

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There's no given price, as you may imagine. It's totally up to the publisher.
Sometimes for "real websites" when you find them online and get in touch, they'll give you a $150-250 range, which is super crazy for a starter website, when you need to build tons of backlinks. But those are also the best websites.
When you go to Fiverr you may find around $30, after you avoid those providers with huge lists, you may find some minor / personal blogger, and if you're lucky their website metrics are not too bad.
What can I say, it's expensive to build authority. People think that online businesses have low cost, when opposed to local businesses that pay rent, but it's not like that if you consider all the money you need to spend to push your website up.
It might be a good options to search for free websites, to start, that give some free links. Like CSS galleries where you can post your website, some directories, or in general websites where you can post.

pixyer said:

There's no given price, as you may imagine. It's totally up to the publisher.
Sometimes for "real websites" when you find them online and get in touch, they'll give you a $150-250 range, which is super crazy for a starter website, when you need to build tons of backlinks. But those are also the best websites.
When you go to Fiverr you may find around $30, after you avoid those providers with huge lists, you may find some minor / personal blogger, and if you're lucky their website metrics are not too bad.
What can I say, it's expensive to build authority. People think that online businesses have low cost, when opposed to local businesses that pay rent, but it's not like that if you consider all the money you need to spend to push your website up.
It might be a good options to search for free websites, to start, that give some free links. Like CSS galleries where you can post your website, some directories, or in general websites where you can post.

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What metrics are considered good metrics? For a new website with a <10 DR
Should I go for websites >20 DR with higher than 1000 traffic?
I reached out to some webmasters and the price range usually are between 30 -70$

What do you recommend?

I am actually considering to stop using the forum, since the moderators give me a 30-days wait penalty for "forgetting to add a price" to one of my ads. If their time is valuable, my time for FREE support is too. But I understand you need help, and you nothing have to do with this, I don't want to be rude and I will reply.


I meant you to look at the metrics of the website you're looking to publish on. No matter of your website current metrics that of course are low, if you're starting now. What are good metrics... well, there are different tools, for example aHREFS and MOZ that give different metrics. The best would be to evaluate websites that are ranked "good" by both tools. But let's assume you use aHREFS which is free to check. Then I would say that you need at least websites >30 DR. It goes without saying, the higher the better. If you have a way to check their traffic, of course a backlink from a website with traffic is better than one that hasn't, I am sure Google takes that into consideration as well.

30 -70$ sounds fine, especially when the writing is included. Try to keep on the lower end. Of course the more you save and spend on quality, then you can keep spending the rest and get more. The goal here is to build as much quality as possible with your given budget. But there's no real given formula.

Also, when evaluating a website to get a link from, with aHREFS you should look also at what kind of backlinks that website has. If they are natural, or if they are spammy and pushed their authority. Any penalty they may get, may penalize you as well through the link. So if you have lots of "pushed authority" websites, you may not rank well. People say better a bunch of quality links rather than a hundred bad ones.

kurosaki4d said:

Hello,

My goal is to get more traffic, improve the rankings of some of my articles. The site already has some good traffic, and it is generating money, so I take this seriously and I'm aiming for the long term. Something sustainable.

I've been acquiring backlinks so far, by using on google "write for" or "guest post" followed by the name of the niche.

Is that considered "white hat"?

I've been receiving tons of offers from link farming sites, but I've been rejecting them all since they seem to be a massive threat to associate with, so the only way I was acquiring links was by using the method described earlier.

I check the site I acquire manually for their backlinks sites, sudden drop/acquisition of keywords/links, if those sites have some actual traffic which might justify not being penalized by google.

So considering the above, would you say that it's safe to continue with my on-going method for the long term well-being of my site?

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Do you pay to guest post?

pixyer said:

I am actually considering to stop using the forum, since the moderators give me a 30-days wait penalty for "forgetting to add a price" to one of my ads. If their time is valuable, my time for FREE support is too. But I understand you need help, and you nothing have to do with this, I don't want to be rude and I will reply.


I meant you to look at the metrics of the website you're looking to publish on. No matter of your website current metrics that of course are low, if you're starting now. What are good metrics... well, there are different tools, for example aHREFS and MOZ that give different metrics. The best would be to evaluate websites that are ranked "good" by both tools. But let's assume you use aHREFS which is free to check. Then I would say that you need at least websites >30 DR. It goes without saying, the higher the better. If you have a way to check their traffic, of course a backlink from a website with traffic is better than one that hasn't, I am sure Google takes that into consideration as well.

30 -70$ sounds fine, especially when the writing is included. Try to keep on the lower end. Of course the more you save and spend on quality, then you can keep spending the rest and get more. The goal here is to build as much quality as possible with your given budget. But there's no real given formula.

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Thanks a lot for taking the time to write such a detailed response.
Very valuable info.

pixyer said:

I will try to be more clear. The official and proper way, following all google guidelines, is through natural outreach, like you mentioned. But who does that? If you try, you may see how difficult it turns out. People don't want to link to you, who are you to them after all? Unless they find you super super relevant, which it may not be the case most of times. I mean, you can try, but it might not be as easy as you expect.

Then, if not this way, what is left? There are websites that allow you posting and give you do follow links. Not easy to find, but there are some. Other than that, there's paid guest posting. Not allowed, officially, but it's the only way. Your approach on focusing on acquiring each one link rather than packages, it's proper. It will take time, one by one, but in the long run you won't lose your website and hopefully you'll achieve the result. Try to focus on real one websites. Many providers offer one guest post, but then they have huge lists of websites. So those are possibly not the sites you want to be in, as they are finally PBNs, although they don't mention it. Being in one may help rather than hurt, then again if you go for the package it may hurt. Hard to say. In my experience I always try to go for the person that only has one standalone website.

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Thank you so much on your detailed answer. This helps me a lot I appreciate it mate!

ahmedtarek8572 said:

Great simplified response!
Thanks a lot,
I am planning to buy some guest post links? What are the average prices? (So I don't get fooled and pay a high price for a low-quality site)?


How much do you pay for them? Like what are the range of prices for a specific DR (30 for example) website?

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That depends, on the DA of the site, its backlinks, the size of its traffic, etc... But if I would say a range of $150 - $250 (in some occasions, it can be more, and sometimes less)

ahmedtarek8572 said:

What metrics are considered good metrics? For a new website with a <10 DR
Should I go for websites >20 DR with higher than 1000 traffic?
I reached out to some webmasters and the price range usually are between 30 -70$

What do you recommend?

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In my opinion, if a site is asking $30 for their backlink, that should be a redflag to you. A low price like that, can mean low quality, so you better do a thorough analysis on the site to see if everything checks out.

zahida said:

Do you pay to guest post?

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Yes, I do! But I write my own guest post articles.

Any one tell me what is google write for?