Google Review Information & Process Discussion

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dirtydave27 said:
I 100% agree. Abusing gmail accounts is a sure fire way to be detected pretty easily and pretty quickly.

Hand making gmails from scratch with a mobile proxy & anti detect browser is a better method than buying aged gmails that have passed through many different hands, IPs, hardware, etc. But, even this is still not a very viable method. It takes a long time to build trust and authority to leave reviews.
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Yes, aged Gmails are a Russian roulette and 1 out of 10 are decent quality (able to reset and use for a review). But, they eventually get an "A Google User" error, triggering the Google spam filter and disabling the account. Recently made Gmail accounts have initial trust, but takes week(s) or month(s) to warm the accounts with real behavior. I've accomplished this, but it takes TOO MUCH TIME.

When you see providers (especially new providers) here say "aged Gmails" their reviews will most likely get deleted and have a high chance of Gmail being disabled and no longer returning. The only real provider of fake reviews are usually selling their own emails and having their own network, so they can mitigate damage from owning thousands of Gmail accounts.

Also, are you comfortable with showing me your competitor listing via PM? I'm interested in seeing it!
 
PudgeyPerfect said:
Yes, aged Gmails are a Russian roulette and 1 out of 10 are decent quality (able to reset and use for a review). But, they eventually get an "A Google User" error, triggering the Google spam filter and disabling the account. Recently made Gmail accounts have initial trust, but takes week(s) or month(s) to warm the accounts with real behavior. I've accomplished this, but it takes TOO MUCH TIME.

When you see providers (especially new providers) here say "aged Gmails" their reviews will most likely get deleted and have a high chance of Gmail being disabled and no longer returning. The only real provider of fake reviews are usually selling their own emails and having their own network, so they can mitigate damage from owning thousands of Gmail accounts.

Also, are you comfortable with showing me your competitor listing via PM? I'm interested in seeing it!
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Two weeks warm up work in general.
 
dirtydave27 said:
Totally. Spamming 50+ reviews in a single month for certain niches is just not possible. It’s a slow and steady race. But, even if that was capped at 5 a month, it seems that they are still flagged and taken down.
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they use the LAW of averages + probabilities combined with other factors such as IP footprints, user travel history.
 
Also, if you think you are using software to cover you foot print, think again.. Lets say you "forgot to turn on your footprint hiding software or turn off" congrats, you just left a trail of finger prints across your network of Gmail accounts.
 
blackhat64 said:
Also, if you think you are using software to cover you foot print, think again.. Lets say you "forgot to turn on your footprint hiding software or turn off" congrats, you just left a trail of finger prints across your network of Gmail accounts.
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Well, A new gmail and so warm up will make us save 40 dollars, some people here sell review for 49 dollars. That´s expensive I prefer to use google ads then.
 
Any method if you can get it to work is fine. 100%
Let me put this into perspective

If you are selling small ticket items like, $5 to $25, $50 items..its definitely..maybe not worth paying $49 to $75 per review\

Now.. if you are a lawyer, senior home care, dentist, AC repair etc. A $75 legit 5 star review under the same area code, zipcode as your business will go a long long way VS 10 x $10 reviews from other countries that use not so american names on top of that with no profile history.
 
blackhat64 said:
Any method if you can get it to work is fine. 100%
Let me put this into perspective

If you are selling small ticket items like, $5 to $25, $50 items..its definitely..maybe not worth paying $49 to $75 per review\

Now.. if you are a lawyer, senior home care, dentist, AC repair etc. A $75 legit 5 star review under the same area code, zipcode as your business will go a long long way VS 10 x $10 reviews from other countries that use not so american names on top of that with no profile history.
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Problem is that it's not cost effective for lead generation industry
 
PudgeyPerfect said:
Yes, aged Gmails are a Russian roulette and 1 out of 10 are decent quality (able to reset and use for a review). But, they eventually get an "A Google User" error, triggering the Google spam filter and disabling the account. Recently made Gmail accounts have initial trust, but takes week(s) or month(s) to warm the accounts with real behavior. I've accomplished this, but it takes TOO MUCH TIME.

When you see providers (especially new providers) here say "aged Gmails" their reviews will most likely get deleted and have a high chance of Gmail being disabled and no longer returning. The only real provider of fake reviews are usually selling their own emails and having their own network, so they can mitigate damage from owning thousands of Gmail accounts.

Also, are you comfortable with showing me your competitor listing via PM? I'm interested in seeing it!
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I can PM you a few of the competitors.

Right, Russian made and botted gmails are very poor in quality and trust. Google is gonna be able to detects botted gmail accounts.

Aged Russian gmails aside. If time, trust, location, history, etc are the main deciding factors then how would my personal Gmail be flagged still? Is Google really that strict and narrow with their algo parameters that they would delete legitimate reviews? For example: I go to a chiropractor 3 times a week and spend about 30 minutes there for the last 4 months. I’m usually on my phone on google and YouTube while in the waiting area. After the 4 months I was finally done with my appointments and decided to leave them a nice review. This review posted initially but then was removed within a week. I only live 15 minutes away from this place and have spent quite a bit of time under their roof and in the area while on my phone. This is my personal Gmail account that I’ve had for years and only use it for personal reviews.

Everything with botted gmails and posting too many review in a quick succession makes sense. But, this is where I’m stumped. Finding the line that google draws between fake and real reviews is difficult.
 
dirtydave27 said:
I can PM you a few of the competitors.

Right, Russian made and botted gmails are very poor in quality and trust. Google is gonna be able to detects botted gmail accounts.

Aged Russian gmails aside. If time, trust, location, history, etc are the main deciding factors then how would my personal Gmail be flagged still? Is Google really that strict and narrow with their algo parameters that they would delete legitimate reviews? For example: I go to a chiropractor 3 times a week and spend about 30 minutes there for the last 4 months. I’m usually on my phone on google and YouTube while in the waiting area. After the 4 months I was finally done with my appointments and decided to leave them a nice review. This review posted initially but then was removed within a week. I only live 15 minutes away from this place and have spent quite a bit of time under their roof and in the area while on my phone. This is my personal Gmail account that I’ve had for years and only use it for personal reviews.

Everything with botted gmails and posting too many review in a quick succession makes sense. But, this is where I’m stumped. Finding the line that google draws between fake and real reviews is difficult.
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I'm also interested, as I have the ability to verify gmb, but review are killing me these days.
 
My final thought on why googles remove EVEN the most authentic reviews. SOME 5 star Reviews are removed by google no matter how authentic it is as a TRUE TEST to any business. If your business really provides provide a 5 star service, then there's nothing to worry about.. in the end you will average 4.8.. 4.9 etc..
 
dirtydave27 said:
I can PM you a few of the competitors.

Right, Russian made and botted gmails are very poor in quality and trust. Google is gonna be able to detects botted gmail accounts.

Aged Russian gmails aside. If time, trust, location, history, etc are the main deciding factors then how would my personal Gmail be flagged still? Is Google really that strict and narrow with their algo parameters that they would delete legitimate reviews? For example: I go to a chiropractor 3 times a week and spend about 30 minutes there for the last 4 months. I’m usually on my phone on google and YouTube while in the waiting area. After the 4 months I was finally done with my appointments and decided to leave them a nice review. This review posted initially but then was removed within a week. I only live 15 minutes away from this place and have spent quite a bit of time under their roof and in the area while on my phone. This is my personal Gmail account that I’ve had for years and only use it for personal reviews.

Everything with botted gmails and posting too many review in a quick succession makes sense. But, this is where I’m stumped. Finding the line that google draws between fake and real reviews is difficult.
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Some Gmail accounts sold by email providers are hacked and were previously used in 3rd world countries with previous human history. But, because the account owner has a low-security sense, they are taken quite easily. Some Gmail providers sell accounts from previously used aged accounts (mostly Youtube aged) that went dormant, so hackers took over, and then those accounts get recycled and banned. Some of them are handmade/botted.

The Gmail providers I've used farm their accounts (multi-country), so the fingerprint is usually how they are botting these accounts, creation date, and country. The biggest issue is the account creation country, which will lead to reviews getting filtered almost immediately. Aged USA Gmails are rare to be bought nowadays. So, fake review providers are stuck with lower-quality emails or their own network of Gmails (which is rare for most new providers, they are just buying whatever they can get their hands on).

Google has several factors when determining if a review is fake, but most of the reviews that are being removed from major Google updates (such as the recent one) are not on the review layer but on the account layer - so they get disabled and the provider can no longer use the account. We know that the spam filter is a mixture of machine learning and AI, so Google already knows beforehand when an account is spam with their sophisticated filters/algorithms. So, the entire account just gets deleted and wiped off completely.

Reviews getting filtered as it's posted is just the first layer of their algorithm.

Right now, review providers are having a hard time getting quality emails, which is 99% of the issue. Once they get their hands on one, that doesn't even guarantee that the review will get posted or not. And if it does go live, that account will need to be used properly and not spammed to death or resold on the market.
 
PudgeyPerfect said:
Some Gmail accounts sold by email providers are hacked and were previously used in 3rd world countries with previous human history. But, because the account owner has a low-security sense, they are taken quite easily. Some Gmail providers sell accounts from previously used aged accounts (mostly Youtube aged) that went dormant, so hackers took over, and then those accounts get recycled and banned. Some of them are handmade/botted.

The Gmail providers I've used farm their accounts (multi-country), so the fingerprint is usually how they are botting these accounts, creation date, and country. The biggest issue is the account creation country, which will lead to reviews getting filtered almost immediately. Aged USA Gmails are rare to be bought nowadays. So, fake review providers are stuck with lower-quality emails or their own network of Gmails (which is rare for most new providers, they are just buying whatever they can get their hands on).

Google has several factors when determining if a review is fake, but most of the reviews that are being removed from major Google updates (such as the recent one) are not on the review layer but on the account layer - so they get disabled and the provider can no longer use the account. We know that the spam filter is a mixture of machine learning and AI, so Google already knows beforehand when an account is spam with their sophisticated filters/algorithms. So, the entire account just gets deleted and wiped off completely.

Reviews getting filtered as it's posted is just the first layer of their algorithm.

Right now, review providers are having a hard time getting quality emails, which is 99% of the issue. Once they get their hands on one, that doesn't even guarantee that the review will get posted or not. And if it does go live, that account will need to be used properly and not spammed to death or resold on the market.
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Perfect resume
 
Has anyone experimented with Android emulators? I'm new on the Google-Reviews hustle, so far I have successfully created 50 hand-made gmails and I give them human like activity every 2/3 days, these accounts were created with different residential proxies, most of the accounts are currently over 30 days old and none has been closed, Only last week I started delivering test reviews, always 2/3/4 star reviews and I use a GPS Spoofer to be closely located to the business, the reviews post immediately and are visible from other accounts but I have come to realize that after 4/7 days the reviews are no longer visible, after that happens I'm able to edit the review and it will be visible again but the whole thing will disappear eventually.
I'm also currently using BraveBrowser multiprofile for each acc but after reading this thread I'm starting to believe that was a bad call as well as the residential proxies.
Got a lot of free time and fully willing to test out any suggestions since I'm really trying to get this to work, I will no doubt report back any further tests from my side.
 
Here's what we do. Use aged gmail account and use mobile device to post reviews. It will stick.
 
What is aged accounts? 3-6 months old, more then one year or more? I used in the last days, 6 years old accounts with history, and they didnt appear.
 
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AceHard said:
Here's what we do. Use aged gmail account and use mobile device to post reviews. It will stick.
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Google Maps app or browser to from Android phone? Any some other methods? Suggest... Edit...? Thanks!
 
Google has changed which sort of stinks as we have three fake one star reviews and of course like Yelp those stay up as the weight is on 5 star. If anyone has a real account that posts reviews I have had ok luck trading with small users so far none have been filtered but a lot of good real reviews left our page giving us a 4.2 or so when we use to be 5 as the 1 stars stayed but 25 5 stars left
 
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