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dirtydave27

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My competitors found a way to get tons of fake Google My Business reviews, and with all the updates, it still sticks.

I want to be able to create my own system to generate the reviews without a trace so that Google can't see it as fake and take it down.

Currently, many people say to use Multilogin for an Antidetect browser, Soax or Oxylabs for Mobile proxies, aged gmail accounts that have the recovery email verified / sms phone verified / 2fa verified. And to farm the accounts with multilogin’s cookie robot generator.

This has allows reviews to be posted at a high rate, but, ultimate they are still deleted. Does anyone know why this is? I’m not looking to buy reviews so do not comment or PM me trying to solicit your reviews. I just want to have an open (or private) conversation as to how Google is able to filter fake & real reviews if your device, location, IP, search history, etc all resemble a real human behavior. What else is being tracked? (Web Rtc is not being leaked).
 
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Hey man, happy to trade some reviews if you want. I'm also struggling with this issue. I have like 10 US based gmail accounts I've been using forever if you wanna trade. Inbox me!
 
There is no OTHER way but the real way. Google knows the devices they use to the core + GPS coordinates and location histories are all relative to the local business reviews. Not to mention, IP footprints, etc, it's really tough
 
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dirtydave27 said:
My competitors found a way to get tons of fake Google My Business reviews, and with all the updates, it still sticks.

I want to be able to create my own system to generate the reviews without a trace so that Google can't see it as fake and take it down.

Currently, many people say to use Multilogin for an Antidetect browser, Soax or Oxylabs for Mobile proxies, aged gmail accounts that have the recovery email verified / sms phone verified / 2fa verified. And to farm the accounts with multilogin’s cookie robot generator.

This has allows reviews to be posted at a high rate, but, ultimate they are still deleted. Does anyone know why this is? I’m not looking to buy reviews so do not comment or PM me trying to solicit your reviews. I just want to have an open (or private) conversation as to how Google is able to filter fake & real reviews if your device, location, IP, search history, etc all resemble a real human behavior. What else is being tracked? (Web Rtc is not being leaked).
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This seems about right.
 
It is really tough. Finding out the extend of the data that google tracks and takes into account is difficult to know. But, people have gotten around it and still do. There are multiple local businesses with HUNDRED of only 5 star reviews. Unless they perform ungodly 5 star service to all their customers, I doubt this is reflective of real users leaving real reviews.

Wouldn’t a mobile proxy in the geo location you’re targeting solve the GPS coordinates & location history? Or would your physical device still need to ping off of local cell towers?
blackhat64 said:
There is no OTHER way but the real way. Google knows the devices they use to the core + GPS coordinates and location histories are all relative to the local business reviews. Not to mention, IP footprints, etc, it's really tough
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It is really tough. Finding out the extend of the data that google tracks and takes into account is difficult to know. But, people have gotten around it and still do. There are multiple local businesses with HUNDRED of only 5 star reviews. Unless they perform ungodly 5 star service to all their customers, I doubt this is reflective of real users leaving real reviews.

Wouldn’t a mobile proxy in the geo location you’re targeting solve the GPS coordinates & location history? Or would your physical device still need to ping off of local cell towers?
 
jhustlin01 said:
This seems about right.
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What seems about right? The method of review posting? It’s on the right path but somewhere along the lines something isn’t quite right. But, also as a side note, my personal Gmail is a local guide level 6 and Google just removed all my reviews (around 20). None of them are public anymore. I haven’t used a proxy or anti detect browser with my personal gmail and I have only used it to review local businesses that I actually visited.
 
dirtydave27 said:
What seems about right? The method of review posting? It’s on the right path but somewhere along the lines something isn’t quite right. But, also as a side note, my personal Gmail is a local guide level 6 and Google just removed all my reviews (around 20). None of them are public anymore. I haven’t used a proxy or anti detect browser with my personal gmail and I have only used it to review local businesses that I actually visited.
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Maybe you're not averaging the amount of reviews in the average time frame(for the business) before posting reviews.
 
jhustlin01 said:
Maybe you're not averaging the amount of reviews in the average time frame(for the business) before posting reviews.
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Could you elaborate? Posting too many in a short timeframe for the niche?
 
dirtydave27 said:
What seems about right? The method of review posting? It’s on the right path but somewhere along the lines something isn’t quite right. But, also as a side note, my personal Gmail is a local guide level 6 and Google just removed all my reviews (around 20). None of them are public anymore. I haven’t used a proxy or anti detect browser with my personal gmail and I have only used it to review local businesses that I actually visited.
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Google also deleted my real review. I think we will still able to post review buuuuut price will be high because of drop rate.
5 dollar a review will be common.
 
dirtydave27 said:
It is really tough. Finding out the extend of the data that google tracks and takes into account is difficult to know. But, people have gotten around it and still do. There are multiple local businesses with HUNDRED of only 5 star reviews. Unless they perform ungodly 5 star service to all their customers, I doubt this is reflective of real users leaving real reviews.

Wouldn’t a mobile proxy in the geo location you’re targeting solve the GPS coordinates & location history? Or would your physical device still need to ping off of local cell towers?

It is really tough. Finding out the extend of the data that google tracks and takes into account is difficult to know. But, people have gotten around it and still do. There are multiple local businesses with HUNDRED of only 5 star reviews. Unless they perform ungodly 5 star service to all their customers, I doubt this is reflective of real users leaving real reviews.

Wouldn’t a mobile proxy in the geo location you’re targeting solve the GPS coordinates & location history? Or would your physical device still need to ping off of local cell towers?
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its...everything.. google uses a probability scam algo. Your reviewers need to be in the SAME area code, same city, historical gps coordinates in that location.
 
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Google also deleted my real review. I think we will still able to post review buuuuut price will be high because of drop rate.
5 dollar a review will be common.
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Theres a chance they will delete a real review. They play by the probability rules. Its not high probability but can happen. When did all your reviews get washed away?
 
not all but some. Back in 2021 it was easy to post an unlimited amount of review.
 
Here's some insight:

Previously popular review providers were using spam Google accounts. This includes but is not limited to hacked Gmail accounts, accounts with previously filtered reviews, Gmails created in a different country leaving reviews in the USA / globe (daily airplane travelers), using the same Android devices across multiple accounts, and using the same Chrome browser across multiple Google accounts. Buying previously spammed Google accounts to leave reviews for clients. Spammed aged accounts and low-quality Gmail accounts.

It's not hard for Google to create an algorithm to delete these accounts.
 
dirtydave27 said:
Could you elaborate? Posting too many in a short timeframe for the niche?
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Let me give you example

Mcdonalds - how many reviews you think this place receives per day? 5 a day?
Football stadium - how many reviews this gets per day? 3 a day average?
Senior Home Care - how often? once a week?
Car Dealerships - how often


you see now?
 
blackhat64 said:
its...everything.. google uses a probability scam algo. Your reviewers need to be in the SAME area code, same city, historical gps coordinates in that location.
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If this is the case then how would the probability algo determine that my personal Gmail account reviews were spam and take them down? I have visited multiple local business down the street (Home Depot, McDonalds, etc) and within 1-2 weeks the reviews were taken down. These are businesses that I visit multiple times a week
 
I strongly agree, review rate is also to take in account. how can a new listing have 50 review in one month.
blackhat64 said:
Let me give you example

Mcdonalds - how many reviews you think this place receives per day? 5 a day?
Football stadium - how many reviews this gets per day? 3 a day average?
Senior Home Care - how often? once a week?
Car Dealerships - how often


you see now?
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PudgeyPerfect said:
Here's some insight:

Previously popular review providers were using spam Google accounts. This includes but is not limited to hacked Gmail accounts, accounts with previously filtered reviews, Gmails created in a different country leaving reviews in the USA / globe (daily airplane travelers), using the same Android devices across multiple accounts, and using the same Chrome browser across multiple Google accounts. Buying previously spammed Google accounts to leave reviews for clients. Spammed aged accounts and low-quality Gmail accounts.

It's not hard for Google to create an algorithm to delete these accounts.
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I 100% agree. Abusing gmail accounts is a sure fire way to be detected pretty easily and pretty quickly.

Hand making gmails from scratch with a mobile proxy & anti detect browser is a better method than buying aged gmails that have passed through many different hands, IPs, hardware, etc. But, even this is still not a very viable method. It takes a long time to build trust and authority to leave reviews.
 
blackhat64 said:
Theres a chance they will delete a real review. They play by the probability rules. Its not high probability but can happen. When did all your reviews get washed away?
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Within the last 48 hours. This is a gmail account that has been a local guide for 5+ years. Maybe longer. I use it to leave legitimate reviews for local businesses.
 
dirtydave27 said:
Within the last 48 hours. This is a gmail account that has been a local guide for 5+ years. Maybe longer. I use it to leave legitimate reviews for local businesses.
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Did you also put review in your flagged business ?
 
blackhat64 said:
Let me give you example

Mcdonalds - how many reviews you think this place receives per day? 5 a day?
Football stadium - how many reviews this gets per day? 3 a day average?
Senior Home Care - how often? once a week?
Car Dealerships - how often


you see now?
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Totally. Spamming 50+ reviews in a single month for certain niches is just not possible. It’s a slow and steady race. But, even if that was capped at 5 a month, it seems that they are still flagged and taken down.
 
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