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Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by elavmunretea, Mar 23, 2017.

  1. elavmunretea

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    Mod Note - I Know SEO

    This thread has been altered by me to link to the sellers who have chosen to respond to this thread. This thread blew up and users are not going to go through 10+ pages of content to see responses.

    This is the fairest way to do it.

    If you want your response to be linked below your article in the content please PM
    @I know SEO with a link to your reply and a link to this thread (so I don't have to manually find it over and over). I will allow 1 response per seller.

    If you have already responded I will do my best to go through all 200 replies and link them now.

    Also, finally... Please note not all threads were reviewed in this process by the OP. There are many more sellers available in our marketplace.


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    Who offers the best TAT? Whose articles offer the best value for money? Whose content is the most engaging?

    Just over a month ago (39 days to be precise) I set out to test every content BST on BHW. I noted down every single thread in the Content / Copywriting section that had been bumped in the last month and then tested every last one.


    The exact brief that I gave the sellers was

    Altogether there were 44 sellers who matched my criteria. I'm assuming that the cat is well-and-truly out of the bag now, so I doubt I will be able to update this list in the future without the sellers knowing what's going on.

    For a comparison, I hired a school-friend of mine to write the start of the article. This is what they came up with. I paid them £5/500 words, which is equivalent to $6.26.

    I know that a lot of people who rely heavily on native writers are not native themselves, which is why I paid the same friend to go through the articles and highlight obvious errors in red. Hopefully, that helps.

    Seller: @se900se
    Price: $50
    TAT: 2 days
    Article: Gaming PCs

    Notes: You can read my full review here

    Thread: Click Here.

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    Seller: @NatashaNixon
    Price: $39.85
    TAT: 6 days
    Article: What is a Gaming PC, Anyway?

    Notes: NN offers two drastically different levels of content, so I ordered them both. This is the "Authority Content" option.

    Thread: Click Here.

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    Seller: @reallife
    Price: $35
    TAT: 11 days
    Article: What Is A Gaming PC – And What Makes It Different From Any Other Computer?

    Notes: Please note that this is not their normal TAT. Before I ordered they explained that they are going into surgery soon so my order would take a little longer to be delivered.

    Thread: Click Here.
    Seller: @jedediahd
    Price: $20
    TAT: 5 days
    Article: What Makes a Gaming PC Unique?

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @Zionlce
    Price: $20
    TAT: 1 day
    Article: What is a Gaming PC?

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @MrBeastsOnToast
    Price: $19.85
    TAT: 4 days
    Article: What Makes a Gaming Computer So Special?

    Notes: Made it clear that they offer revisions.

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @JamesBlake
    Price: $17.5
    TAT: 2.5 hours!!!
    Article: Why You Need a Gaming PC: Take Your Experience To The Next Level

    Notes: I was very tired when I ordered this, so accidentally paid $22.50 instead of $17.5, which is why the article is a little longer than the rest. The TAT was amazing, at only 2 and a half hours!

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @Floopa75
    Price: $15
    TAT: 4 days
    Article: Gaming Computers

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @Andres1986
    Price: $15
    TAT: 21 days
    Article: All you should know about a Gaming PC

    Notes: I can see in Word that the article was written on the 25th of Feb (Would have been a 4 day TAT) However, there was a mix-up and the article was never delivered. I assume this is a one-off.

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @LuckyCharm007
    Price: $15
    TAT: 2 days
    Article: Gaming PC Description

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @TextBoss
    Price: $15
    TAT: 2 days
    Article: What is a Gaming PC?

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @theacewriter
    Price: $13
    TAT: 1 day
    Article: What Makes a Great Gaming PC?

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @kyescontent
    Price: $12.5
    TAT: 4 days
    Article: What is a Gaming PC?

    Notes: Gave some good feedback. Was clear he put in the work. (Read to end of the article and you'll see what I mean)

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @lfexped
    Price: $11
    TAT: 4 days
    Article: What is a Gaming PC?

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @contentdarknight
    Price: $10
    TAT: 1 day
    Article: What are Gaming PCs?

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @hpasha
    Price: $10
    TAT: 13 days
    Article: The Top 5 Gaming PCs of 2017

    Notes: "Delivered it earlier" (Apparently)

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @Aluminium
    Price: $10
    TAT: 2 days
    Article: How to Build the Best Gaming PC (in 2017!)

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @goosefrabah
    Price: $9.75
    TAT: 2 days
    Article: Who Needs a Gaming PC and What Makes a PC Ideal for Gaming?

    Notes: 580 words.

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @nikchaing
    Price: $9
    TAT: 1 day
    Article: I have a huge dick and I have an over-priced computer to prove it.

    Notes: This was just for fun, but it is honestly the most entertaining article out of them all!

    Thread: Click Here.
    Seller: @FeroXs
    Price: $7.5
    TAT: 1 day
    Article: What is a gaming PC?

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @Phenomix
    Price: $7.5
    TAT: 2 days
    Article: What’s A Gaming PC?

    Thread: Click Here. (Now Closed)


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    Seller: @MartysW0RLD
    Price: $7.5
    TAT: 27 days
    Article: What are Gaming PCs?

    Notes: I placed an order from their site on the 21'st (Feb) and only when I chased the order up on the 14th did they tell me that my order didn't go through. Apparently, their site sends out order confirmations before you reach the payment page, which is so stupid.

    I ordered it "again" on the 14th of March, so the "actual TAT" was 6 days.

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @neilbhabuta
    Price: $7.5
    TAT: 2 days
    Article: Gaming PC

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @NatashaNixon
    Price: $7.5
    TAT: 2 days
    Article: Gaming PCs

    Notes: This was NN's "SEO Article" quality. I also ordered their more expensive writing, which can be seen here, as well as in the top section of this thread.

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @wordslinger
    Price: $7.5
    TAT: 1 day
    Article: Get the Best Quality Gaming PC Components to Enjoy All Video Games

    Notes: PayPal wasn't working on their checkout system at the time of ordering.

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @Swaggatron
    Price: $7.5
    TAT: 3.5 Hours! <3
    Article: How to Choose a Powerful Gaming PC and Not Spend All Your Money

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @ContentWriter
    Price: $7.45
    TAT: 2 days
    Article: Build Your Next Gaming PC on Ryzen’s Advanced Micro Devices (AMD)

    Notes: Included Meta Description and Alt Tags for free!

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @magicherbs123
    Price: $7
    TAT: 2 days
    Article: A beginners guide to gaming PCs

    Notes: Skype support slow. Added on Skype Wed, Replied Sat

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @SEOZONE3
    Price: $6.5
    TAT: 3 days
    Article: Factors for Selecting a Gaming PC

    Notes: Why is this on a Blogspot, I hear you asking? Well, SEOZONE actually Copyscaped the content, presumably to snoop on my site, and then sent me some very angry emails when they realised I included their name with the article.

    You can read the full email exchange here. While they didn't explicitly threaten me with Neg-SEO, they very much implied it - Shady. (I also got a friend to send them an email, they replied saying that I would "be behind the prison")

    Also, their minimum order is $10. What You Need to Build a Gaming PC, is the second article they wrote.

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @shikind11
    Price: $6.5
    TAT: 2 days
    Article: Love Playing Games? Get A Gaming PC

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @CreativeLinks
    Price: $6
    TAT: 2 days
    Article: What makes a good Gaming PC?

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @irfanrufi123
    Price: $5.92
    TAT: 8 days
    Article: Factors That Contribute to a Great Gaming PC Experience

    Notes: Order form asks for Address. Why?

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @Lannister10
    Price: $5.5
    TAT: 14 days
    Article: Tips That You Cannot Afford Missing When Choosing The Suitable Gaming PC

    Notes: Another person who "Delivered it earlier"

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @priyankanx
    Price: $5
    TAT: 2 days
    Article: The Ultimate gaming experience

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @blackpayman733
    Price: $5
    TAT: 3 days
    Article: Shopping for a Gaming PC: tips to help you choose the best

    Notes: They were banned from BHW (Back now) and from selling due to threatening negative SEO. They still delivered their content after being banned, and actually made a mistake and sent me another article on the same topic. That can be seen here.

    Thread: Click Here. (Banned from selling)


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    Seller: @seodean
    Price: $4.745
    TAT: 5 days
    Article: Buying a Gaming PC

    Notes: 1k words minimum order. Here are the other 500.

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @L33T
    Price: $4.5
    TAT: 4 days
    Article: Things to know before you buy the Gaming PC

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @tahajawed
    Price: $3.685
    TAT: 9 days
    Article: Best Gaming PC You Can Buy in 2017

    Notes: 1k words minimum order. Here are the other 500.

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @HighTechOcean
    Price: $3.5
    TAT: 6 hours
    Article: All You Wanted to Know about a Gaming PC

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @sam3724
    Price: $3.5
    TAT: 6 days
    Article: What Is It All About?

    Notes: Included Meta Description.

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @TechFinder
    Price: $3
    TAT: 2 days
    Article: Gaming PCs – a class apart

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @meetseo121
    Price: $2
    TAT: 2 days
    Article: Enrich Your Knowledge About Gaming PC

    Thread: Click Here.

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    Seller: @SEO FOX
    Price: $2
    TAT: 4 days
    Article: Enrich Your Knowledge About Gaming PC

    Thread: Click Here.

    For those who don't like the spolier view, here's the whole thing:

    Journalist Grade Content ($20+)


    Seller: @se900se
    Price: $50
    TAT: 2 days
    Article: Gaming PCs

    Notes: You can read my full review here

    Thread: Click Here.

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    Seller: @NatashaNixon
    Price: $39.85
    TAT: 6 days
    Article: What is a Gaming PC, Anyway?

    Notes: NN offers two drastically different levels of content, so I ordered them both. This is the "Authority Content" option.

    Thread: Click Here.

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    Seller: @reallife
    Price: $35
    TAT: 11 days
    Article: What Is A Gaming PC – And What Makes It Different From Any Other Computer?

    Notes: Please note that this is not their normal TAT. Before I ordered they explained that they are going into surgery soon so my order would take a little longer to be delivered.

    Thread: Click Here.


    Native Articles ($7.5-$20)


    Seller: @jedediahd
    Price: $20
    TAT: 5 days
    Article: What Makes a Gaming PC Unique?

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @Zionlce
    Price: $20
    TAT: 1 day
    Article: What is a Gaming PC?

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @MrBeastsOnToast
    Price: $19.85
    TAT: 4 days
    Article: What Makes a Gaming Computer So Special?

    Notes: Made it clear that they offer revisions.

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @JamesBlake
    Price: $17.5
    TAT: 2.5 hours!!!
    Article: Why You Need a Gaming PC: Take Your Experience To The Next Level

    Notes: I was very tired when I ordered this, so accidentally paid $22.50 instead of $17.5, which is why the article is a little longer than the rest. The TAT was amazing, at only 2 and a half hours!

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @Floopa75
    Price: $15
    TAT: 4 days
    Article: Gaming Computers

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @Andres1986
    Price: $15
    TAT: 21 days
    Article: All you should know about a Gaming PC

    Notes: I can see in Word that the article was written on the 25th of Feb (Would have been a 4 day TAT) However, there was a mix-up and the article was never delivered. I assume this is a one-off.

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @LuckyCharm007
    Price: $15
    TAT: 2 days
    Article: Gaming PC Description

    Notes: There were some strange delivery issues, so make sure to check-up on your order if it's not delivered promptly.

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @TextBoss
    Price: $15
    TAT: 2 days
    Article: What is a Gaming PC?

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @theacewriter
    Price: $13
    TAT: 1 day
    Article: What Makes a Great Gaming PC?

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @kyescontent
    Price: $12.5
    TAT: 4 days
    Article: What is a Gaming PC?

    Notes: Gave some good feedback. Was clear he put in the work. (Read to end of the article and you'll see what I mean)

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @lfexped
    Price: $11
    TAT: 4 days
    Article: What is a Gaming PC?

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @contentdarknight
    Price: $10
    TAT: 1 day
    Article: What are Gaming PCs?

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @hpasha
    Price: $10
    TAT: 13 days
    Article: The Top 5 Gaming PCs of 2017

    Notes: "Delivered it earlier" (Apparently)

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @Aluminium
    Price: $10
    TAT: 2 days
    Article: How to Build the Best Gaming PC (in 2017!)

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @goosefrabah
    Price: $9.75
    TAT: 2 days
    Article: Who Needs a Gaming PC and What Makes a PC Ideal for Gaming?

    Notes: 580 words.

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @nikchaing
    Price: $9
    TAT: 1 day
    Article: I have a huge dick and I have an over-priced computer to prove it.

    Notes: This was just for fun, but it is honestly the most entertaining article out of them all!

    Thread: Click Here.


    Budget Content (x<$7.5)


    Seller: @FeroXs
    Price: $7.5
    TAT: 1 day
    Article: What is a gaming PC?

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @Phenomix
    Price: $7.5
    TAT: 2 days
    Article: What’s A Gaming PC?

    Thread: Click Here. (Now Closed)


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    Seller: @MartysW0RLD
    Price: $7.5
    TAT: 27 days
    Article: What are Gaming PCs?

    Notes: I placed an order from their site on the 21'st (Feb) and only when I chased the order up on the 14th did they tell me that my order didn't go through. Apparently, their site sends out order confirmations before you reach the payment page, which is so stupid.

    I ordered it "again" on the 14th of March, so the "actual TAT" was 6 days.

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @neilbhabuta
    Price: $7.5
    TAT: 2 days
    Article: Gaming PC

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @NatashaNixon
    Price: $7.5
    TAT: 2 days
    Article: Gaming PCs

    Notes: This was NN's "SEO Article" quality. I also ordered their more expensive writing, which can be seen here, as well as in the top section of this thread.

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @wordslinger
    Price: $7.5
    TAT: 1 day
    Article: Get the Best Quality Gaming PC Components to Enjoy All Video Games

    Notes: PayPal wasn't working to start with.

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @Swaggatron
    Price: $7.5
    TAT: 3.5 Hours! <3
    Article: How to Choose a Powerful Gaming PC and Not Spend All Your Money

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @ContentWriter
    Price: $7.45
    TAT: 2 days
    Article: Build Your Next Gaming PC on Ryzen’s Advanced Micro Devices (AMD)

    Notes: Included Meta Description and Alt Tags for free!

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @magicherbs123
    Price: $7
    TAT: 2 days
    Article: A beginners guide to gaming PCs

    Notes: Skype support slow. Added on Skype Wed, Replied Sat

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @SEOZONE3
    Price: $6.5
    TAT: 3 days
    Article: Factors for Selecting a Gaming PC

    Notes: Why is this on a Blogspot, I hear you asking? Well, SEOZONE actually Copyscaped the content, presumably to snoop on my site, and then sent me some very angry emails when they realised I included their name with the article.

    You can read the full email exchange here. While they didn't explicitly threaten me with Neg-SEO, they very much implied it - Shady. (I also got a friend to send them an email, they replied saying that I would "be behind the prison")

    Also, their minimum order is $10. What You Need to Build a Gaming PC, is the second article they wrote.

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @shikind11
    Price: $6.5
    TAT: 2 days
    Article: Love Playing Games? Get A Gaming PC

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @MidMagician
    Price: $6
    TAT: 1hr 15mins
    Article: What are Gaming PCs?

    Notes: They don't currently have a BST, this was from a giveaway. They didn't want to give me their pricing, but I found out that it's "$2.75 an article if a bulk purchase of 30 articles is ordered, $3.00 an article if 20 articles are ordered, and $3.25 for 10 articles." Decent!

    Thread: Click Here. (PM as they do not have a BST)


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    Seller: @CreativeLinks
    Price: $6
    TAT: 2 days
    Article: What makes a good Gaming PC?

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @irfanrufi123
    Price: $5.92
    TAT: 8 days
    Article: Factors That Contribute to a Great Gaming PC Experience

    Notes: Order form asks for Address. Why?

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @Lannister10
    Price: $5.5
    TAT: 14 days
    Article: Tips That You Cannot Afford Missing When Choosing The Suitable Gaming PC

    Notes: Another person who "Delivered it earlier"

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @priyankanx
    Price: $5
    TAT: 2 days
    Article: The Ultimate gaming experience

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @blackpayman733
    Price: $5
    TAT: 3 days
    Article: Shopping for a Gaming PC: tips to help you choose the best

    Notes: They were banned from BHW (Back now) and from selling due to threatening negative SEO. They still delivered their content after being banned, and actually made a mistake and sent me another article on the same topic. That can be seen here.

    Thread: Click Here. (Banned from selling)


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    Seller: @seodean
    Price: $4.745
    TAT: 5 days
    Article: Buying a Gaming PC

    Notes: 1k words minimum order. Here are the other 500.

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @L33T
    Price: $4.5
    TAT: 4 days
    Article: Things to know before you buy the Gaming PC

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @tahajawed
    Price: $3.685
    TAT: 9 days
    Article: Best Gaming PC You Can Buy in 2017

    Notes: 1k words minimum order. Here are the other 500.

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @HighTechOcean
    Price: $3.5
    TAT: 6 hours
    Article: All You Wanted to Know about a Gaming PC

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @sam3724
    Price: $3.5
    TAT: 6 days
    Article: What Is It All About?

    Notes: Included Meta Description.

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @TechFinder
    Price: $3
    TAT: 2 days
    Article: Gaming PCs – a class apart

    Thread: Click Here.


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    Seller: @meetseo121
    Price: $2
    TAT: 2 days
    Article: Enrich Your Knowledge About Gaming PC

    Thread: Click Here.

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    Seller: @SEO FOX
    Price: $2
    TAT: 4 days
    Article: Enrich Your Knowledge About Gaming PC

    Thread: Click Here.

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    As you can see, paying more clearly doesn't equate to better content and there are good and bad examples at both ends of the spectrum.

    I've learnt a lot from this exercise. Hopefully you have too. It's been a real eye-opener.

    If you would like to view the information in a more organised format, you can head over to the Google Doc I used to track everything.

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  2. The Profit Bird

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    Looks like Harry has tried almost every other service here ;)
     
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    Wow, you invested quite some time into ordering and reviewing all of this content! I wish I was a seller on the marketplace so my work could've been included for review. Thanks for doing this, it'll certainly help a lot of members here find a content writer that's worth hiring.
     
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    Thanks Hen for reviewing our service!
     
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    This was an excellent project you started, Harry!

    I remember macdonjo3 was planning on testing the marketplace threads here, though his proposed execution was met with a lot of criticism (remember the seal?). However, you've done it in a way that I'm sure most of us can agree was smart.

    Anyway, hopefully this thread brings attentions to those writers who sent you quality content and exposes the sellers who tried getting away with sending you garbage.
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    Wow, that's one hell of a useful post.

    I'm in need of content all the time, and this came right in time. Thank you buddy!
     
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    Great thread! Bookmarked! I tried some of those budget writers and they are actually good.
     
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    THANKS HASA! Was just looking for an article writer so this is perfect timing :)

    Could you comment on who you personally liked the most or top 3? In terms of overall value?
    Please keep us updated on the ranking and how the articles panned out.
     
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    Wow, $10 per 100 words and you receive 9 grammatical errors? Unbelievable!
     
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