Increased PBN boost time after FRED? Complex question

[qwertzui11]

Hi there,
I have a complex question, If you have any idea about them, feel free to join!

1. I am noticing some strange behavior on my new pbn domains.
Like, nothing happening is SERPs after built 10 domains.
Here is the details of my pbn domains.

- average DA 20+, min RD 50
- very-very clean domain
(im in the ccTLD section and in my country no one has decent pbn knowledge, that means no one used this domains as PBNs before, checked in ahrefs etc...)
- created OBLs and unique content before placing the backlink, waited 1 month to age
- created 500-1000 word articles, using only url and brand anchors
- built them about 2 weeks ago.
- new articles are indexed perfectly

And then... Nothing happened.
Just stuck in the middle-end on the G's first page (my domain is 3yrs old)
Has anyone noticed increasing pbn "kick-in" time after the new Fred update? Whats your average in days? Before-after?

2. thing I have noticed:
Sites coming up in SERP, for the first page, with nothing content behind them.
(Offsite like 10 backlink. Obviously not hiding PBNs, because the sites are a real shit. No Onsite, no keywords, crappy metas, just nothing...)

Has anyone noticed this behavior now?
I am thinking about dropping my 3yrs aged domain with 200 RD, and planning to start on a new one because of this shit.

 

[dbanjo]

Yeah, drop the 3 year aged domain for a brand new one, that should really speed everything up. I'll also buy the old one off you, not for much though as it's obviously shit if links don't work after a whole 2 weeks.

 

[qwertzui11]

Yeah, drop the 3 year aged domain for a brand new one, that should really speed everything up. I'll also buy the old one off you, not for much though as it's obviously shit if links don't work after a whole 2 weeks.

Thanks man ! Got it...

But back to the main topic! How long does it take in your opinion to increase a first page rank with pbns?

 

[darulez]

usual 21 days,correct, 3,5 weeks on overage. nothing new since 2012.

 

[MisterF]

How long does it take in your opinion to increase a first page rank with pbns?

How long is a piece of string ?

I have replied to these types of questions before, but people fail to understand there is no one standard reply.
Who are your competitors websites ?
If you have a review affiliate site, are you trying to get above Wirecutter as an example ?

If you have a news site, are you wanting to take on CNN or Fox or BBC ?

If you are trying to sell hotel rooms, Booking .com or Trivago will have a bigger budget to play with

Based on your comment;
Sites coming up in SERP, for the first page, with nothing content behind them.
(Offsite like 10 backlink. Obviously not hiding PBNs, because the sites are a real shit. No Onsite, no keywords, crappy metas, just nothing...)

Are these Adsense sites ?
What have you done to check for their PBNs?
If it is as you say it is, then Google must have stepped backwards 6 years, if shitty 1 page, none onsite thin sites are kicking out your powered up, aged domain.

 

[qwertzui11]

How long is a piece of string ?

I have replied to these types of questions before, but people fail to understand there is no one standard reply.
Who are your competitors websites ?
If you have a review affiliate site, are you trying to get above Wirecutter as an example ?

If you have a news site, are you wanting to take on CNN or Fox or BBC ?

If you are trying to sell hotel rooms, Booking .com or Trivago will have a bigger budget to play with

Based on your comment;
Sites coming up in SERP, for the first page, with nothing content behind them.
(Offsite like 10 backlink. Obviously not hiding PBNs, because the sites are a real shit. No Onsite, no keywords, crappy metas, just nothing...)

Are these Adsense sites ?
What have you done to check for their PBNs?
If it is as you say it is, then Google must have stepped backwards 6 years, if shitty 1 page, none onsite thin sites are kicking out your powered up, aged domain.

The competitors are e-commerce stores, going on mobile accessories line.
No big names, just smaller sites. No blogs, just pure ecommerce. Adsense neither.

I can send in pm the competitor domain for you, if you are interested in it, so you can check it in ahrefs, or something why the hell is it ranking that high. Message me if you have some spare time.
The result were shocking for me.