The best payment system for a very profitable dropship store?

Thanks for your response, if only BHW have more people like you, successive and nice. I will surely join Skype group in a minute. I have only one question more that is bothering me about dropshipping, are you informing clients about long time of delivery in some clearly visible way or rather you try to hide it from them, what is better strategy for generating sales?

Never hide man. When you click on my product you see this just next to ''add to cart''

Shipping Times:

US: 12-20 days
UK: 18-40 days
Canada: 16-30 days
Australia: 13-21

If Your order does not arrive in 60 days, you will receive 100% refund.

PS: e packet does not take too long (u see times above), and with the shown shipping time I protect myself from any dumb disputes.
 
Awesome thread! I havnt had luck with dropshipping but this is still very inspirational!
 
How did you give them all the infofro the company on aliexpress? They asked me to..also how much money do thry let u accept? Are u new seller or not...all those are ver important factors.


But 2checkout has nothing to do with aliexpress. They are an independent payment processor. Yes, they will want a lot of details about you/ your company. But I had no issue giving them these details. They are top players in these market.
 
I switched to business acc after they froze me, but did not change anything.

My store has 1 product in 2 shapes. Very niche.

Fb strategy: place multiple ads, keep the best preforming one and scale it.

I use conversion (purchase) ads with fb pixel. Fb ads learn over time, put everything on automatic and be amazed :)

My audience is 7.500.000, $100/day, make $930

Great info Alex. What are your thoughts on General stores and testing out a bunch of products instead of a niche one? Why did you decide to start with WC first and not PPE? Was the audience size 7,500,000 at the start or did you scale?

Thanks for the insight!
 
But 2checkout has nothing to do with aliexpress. They are an independent payment processor. Yes, they will want a lot of details about you/ your company. But I had no issue giving them these details. They are top players in these market.
Who will want lot of details? AliExpress or 2checkout?
 
I am planning to make a dropshipping store, i've got the marketing and other stuff planned out but the last thing I want to confirm is the payment gateway before i execute.

I cant afford paypal holding my money for 21 days because I dont have that much money to order from Aliexpress. Is there a solution to this?
I only have a debit card, I'm currently unemployed so I dont have a credit card to order from Ali.

I want to try 2checkout but they might ask more info about my business, but im still starting so Im afraid i wont be able to provide documents they need. If there's no solution i might try paypal as a last resort, but do i need to upgrade my persona pp to business account? Thank you so much guys.
 
How many ads you running?
I think 2Checkout is better choice for you.
 
I feel like this guy actually wants to scam people and he is looking for a payment processor which doesn't ask too many questions so he can get the money without problems before disputes coming in.

I might be wrong but usually when I feel it it's true :)
 
Definitely a lawyer and a US company is a must-have.

Wrong! A lawyer is necessary of course, but an US company is NOT. In fact, it's totally the opposite. In cases where the product is entirely produced outside of US borders (producing includes manufacturing the product, doesn't matter if it's physical or virtual like software + customer support/maintenance), you are not liable to any tax. Now, the selling part is a bit problematic and it depends on the specific case, because technically selling is not producing, so you don't have to pay taxes according to the law, but more often than not, you will have to. I will give you 2 examples:

1) You are selling a SaaS (software as a service) product and are meeting clients in the US to close sales, especially if the price is mid XXX to 4 figures per month. You are also maintaining an office in the US to handle sales and/or customer support. In this case, leveraging the tax directive I mentioned above is not possible and you will be liable to tax. Even if you don't have any offices in the US and are just coming to close sales and then leaving (say with a tourist/business visa or ESTA) and customer support agents are located outside the US, you will still have to avoid the Substantial Presence Test and while most countries have a simple system of not being in the country for more than 180 days, US of course has a different system (hell, they even measure their shit totally different than the rest of the world, so of course you would expect this in taxes).

You can read the formula in the IRS page I linked. Best option in such cases is incorporating a company in Cayman Islands or any other offshore island - lots of headache and you will definitely need a good and experienced lawyer to tell you what's the best option for you and how to implement it.

2) You are selling a virtual product, closing sales online and are not maintaining any offices in the US at all. In this case, you pay 0 taxes to the IRS. You pay taxes based on the system the country where you incorporated your company has. Territorial taxation is of course the best, because you pay only for services/goods sold within that country's territory. This is the reason why you hear Hong Kong & Singapore being talked a lot as offshore options to incorporate your company, especially if it's an online-based one.

There are also lots of other cases completely different and in-between. I mentioned these 2, because I have experience in them. I am not a lawyer, but I have met with few of them and everything I told you above can be confirmed easily. However, in any case, I strongly recommend you to contact a lawyer ASAP as your country of citizenship, double tax treaties, etc... might affect your case. Choose a lawyer that knows a good deal about International Law and is experienced in such tax issues. I'm also assuming that you don't have an US citizenship, otherwise that will complicate things 10x more.

Anyway, your business model (and dropshipping in general) can be included under case 2 in most circumstances. That means you don't need a company in the US. You only need to incorporate outside in a tax-favored country. That will also allow you to use local merchant accounts in those countries - maybe not the best, but definitely better than PP. Also, 2Checkout is a trusted global company, but be warned that they don't handle disputes/chargebacks very well unless you have very clear and specific TOS, which you should. Their $25 fee might kill your profit margins. I have used them for SaaS though and never had any real problems.Other merchants include: Authorize.net, Stripe & Bluepay (not all are global though).
 
Wrong! A lawyer is necessary of course, but an US company is NOT. In fact, it's totally the opposite. In cases where the product is entirely produced outside of US borders (producing includes manufacturing the product, doesn't matter if it's physical or virtual like software + customer support/maintenance), you are not liable to any tax. Now, the selling part is a bit problematic and it depends on the specific case, because technically selling is not producing, so you don't have to pay taxes according to the law, but more often than not, you will have to. I will give you 2 examples:

1) You are selling a SaaS (software as a service) product and are meeting clients in the US to close sales, especially if the price is mid XXX to 4 figures per month. You are also maintaining an office in the US to handle sales and/or customer support. In this case, leveraging the tax directive I mentioned above is not possible and you will be liable to tax. Even if you don't have any offices in the US and are just coming to close sales and then leaving (say with a tourist/business visa or ESTA) and customer support agents are located outside the US, you will still have to avoid the Substantial Presence Test and while most countries have a simple system of not being in the country for more than 180 days, US of course has a different system (hell, they even measure their shit totally different than the rest of the world, so of course you would expect this in taxes).

You can read the formula in the IRS page I linked. Best option in such cases is incorporating a company in Cayman Islands or any other offshore island - lots of headache and you will definitely need a good and experienced lawyer to tell you what's the best option for you and how to implement it.

2) You are selling a virtual product, closing sales online and are not maintaining any offices in the US at all. In this case, you pay 0 taxes to the IRS. You pay taxes based on the system the country where you incorporated your company has. Territorial taxation is of course the best, because you pay only for services/goods sold within that country's territory. This is the reason why you hear Hong Kong & Singapore being talked a lot as offshore options to incorporate your company, especially if it's an online-based one.

There are also lots of other cases completely different and in-between. I mentioned these 2, because I have experience in them. I am not a lawyer, but I have met with few of them and everything I told you above can be confirmed easily. However, in any case, I strongly recommend you to contact a lawyer ASAP as your country of citizenship, double tax treaties, etc... might affect your case. Choose a lawyer that knows a good deal about International Law and is experienced in such tax issues. I'm also assuming that you don't have an US citizenship, otherwise that will complicate things 10x more.

Anyway, your business model (and dropshipping in general) can be included under case 2 in most circumstances. That means you don't need a company in the US. You only need to incorporate outside in a tax-favored country. That will also allow you to use local merchant accounts in those countries - maybe not the best, but definitely better than PP. Also, 2Checkout is a trusted global company, but be warned that they don't handle disputes/chargebacks very well unless you have very clear and specific TOS, which you should. Their $25 fee might kill your profit margins. I have used them for SaaS though and never had any real problems.Other merchants include: Authorize.net, Stripe & Bluepay (not all are global though).

Mate don't waste your time helping a guy to succesfully scam people. I'm 95% sure he wants to scam as I saw nowadays that alot of scammers are using online store and fb advertising to scam people.
I just saw a few days ago alot of fb campaigns on my country of online stores selling nike shoes at mega discounts which turned to be a big scam, and the campaigns were quite big as they had over 10k likes to their posts.

The biggest problem for them is HOW to get the money as 99% of the credit card processing companies or any other service is asking for documents or they are placing holds until buyer marks that everything was ok with the order.

So stop helping this guys!
 
Just for the record, if you look at the image the OP uploaded, he has made $3,477.90 total. That's gross sales, not net profit. He made $922.40 on his best day (Nov 17), under $600 on his second best day (Nov 9), and between $200-$400 on four other days. The rest of the days since Nov 2nd he's had even less than that in gross sales.

You also didn't mention your expenses such as FB ads, product cost, hosting, etc. therefore your actual profit right now is a fraction of that total gross sales number.

Therefore it's a bit misleading to claim you are making thousands of dollars in profit per day easily with this. I don't doubt you can make $x,xxx/day, but you're definitely not there yet.

Best of luck to you on your journey though.
 
Just for the record, if you look at the image the OP uploaded, he has made $3,477.90 total. That's gross sales, not net profit. He made $922.40 on his best day (Nov 17), under $600 on his second best day (Nov 9), and between $200-$400 on four other days. The rest of the days since Nov 2nd he's had even less than that in gross sales.

You also didn't mention your expenses such as FB ads, product cost, hosting, etc. therefore your actual profit right now is a fraction of that total gross sales number.

Therefore it's a bit misleading to claim you are making thousands of dollars in profit per day easily with this. I don't doubt you can make $x,xxx/day, but you're definitely not there yet.

Best of luck to you on your journey though.

His only expenses are the FB ads and hosting, thats why :) I hope you are not the one selling nike shoes.
 
GOD 0 - 100 REAL QUICK!

What the hell people? I sell damn beauty product!
$3 product
$2 paypal fee
$5 on ads per sale (avg)
$2 e packet

thats $12, and I sell it for 29.90...so 60% PURE NET PROFIT.

What part of ''new paypal seller'' u did not understand? I need 60 days (like 100% other sellers that made some significant money) to get out of that ''new seller zone'', LIKE I SAID - I MADE $0 20 DAYS AGO - and therfore I do NOT have enough money to pay for ads nor wholesale product since Im in Italy and I need to pay for plane ticket, and live here for 30 more days so too risky. I stopped ad for that reason.

day I made $134 - only $9 on ads
$580 - $45 on ads
$930 - $100 on ads

I was just testing it to see the potential. once Im approved seller I will put $500/day in ads and u do the math :)


''I'm 95% sure he wants to scam as I saw nowadays that alot of scammers are using online store and fb advertising to scam people.''

WHAT THE? So 95% of people who make money via Shopify and run Fb Ads are scammers? Really?

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Jelaousy and untrust is so dense here...why is that?

I have no idea why i spend time to prove you anything really...
 

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No one is jealous. I said what scams I saw recently and your questions and statements made me think only at that. And I still think that because if you were legit you were trying to call Paypal for a solution and things like this ;)
 
No one is jealous. I said what scams I saw recently and your questions and statements made me think only at that. And I still think that because if you were legit you were trying to call Paypal for a solution and things like this ;)

I need to wait 21 day to receive funds, and it will be like that for the first 2 months only. I see you have no idea what ''new seller'' is, why it happens and what is the purpose of it. Do something instead of dropin' random opinions that have none fact support.
 
I need to wait 21 day to receive funds, and it will be like that for the first 2 months only. I see you have no idea what ''new seller'' is, why it happens and what is the purpose of it. Do something instead of dropin' random opinions that have none fact support.

Hey Alex, ignore all the hate man, they really are just envious or don't know anything about the dropshipping game. Us noobies really appreciate the help that you're providing us.

Did you start by targeting that 7,500,000 audience size with a $5 WC ad? What is your strategy with FB ads in general?
 
If you are from the Netherlands you can use Ideal with your bankaccount.
 
Hey Alex, ignore all the hate man, they really are just envious or don't know anything about the dropshipping game. Us noobies really appreciate the help that you're providing us.

Did you start by targeting that 7,500,000 audience size with a $5 WC ad? What is your strategy with FB ads in general?

Hey, yeah 3 ads with $5...and the best one will appear. Number of purchases factor: store visuals, page visuals, text (read about psychology of selling-buying, since u need a damn good text on the store), AD - 2nd most important factor....and THE MOST IMPORTANT is the product. ILike I say, you will sell a shit if you have a good ad, but it will be hard. So do yourself a favour and spend a week or 2 just to find the right product. :)
 
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