Instagram announces that botting is dead

Don't think it will affect much though. Bots can literally do anything a human could do on computer.

An update from dev will resolve the quite easily, there will be one if their bot had problems. :D
 
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Nah, Bots aint dead, they just took a break to learn the new update and update themselfs as well :D
 
miketcool said:
1) The bot will need to tell Instagram that the input is from a device which isn't the easiest thing to do.

2) The random scrolling will develop a pattern. IG and FB have had a decade for machine learning. There is likely a rather distinguishable pattern that is human versus random scrolling from a bot.

The level of sophistication will have to jump 10x fold.
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The random scrolling will not develop a pattern if sophisticated enough, and that's not all that much. All bot makers need to do is gather a set of data from real people who use Instagram on real devices and then generalize the movements into an algorithm that fluctuates its actions proportionally to that of a human by leveraging random number generation.

The movements don't have to be perfect, they just need to provide at least a plausible simulation of human interaction, because Instagram has to account for the wide variability of the browsing habits of regular users, which means even elementary algorithms should get by as long as they are based on real interaction. Create your own artificial movement using data sources similar to what Instagram's anti-spam filters were trained on (human beings), and leverage them to blend in with real users so as to stay under the bot-detection threshold.

I've been waiting for this to happen for a while now, and I'm excited as to what the future will hold in this cat-and-mouse game. In the end, the algorithm can always be gamed.
 
Instagram was tracking this for ages, it's nothing new, they just had to let you know about it now because all the crap Mark had to go through with congress.

They want to inform you that you're being tracked because they have to avoid further crap. It also came as good opportunity to scare you away from using bots, and from some answers here I see it had effect.

Don't worry about bots. The good ones mimic human behavior perfectly :)

You know what else IG checks for? Your phone battery level and is it charging or not. Yeah. But good bots have that covered too.
 
Bot's can be programmed to do whatever, Instagram will never be die.

Everything can be bypassed.
 
miketcool said:
Instagram sent out an update this week explaining their services. This was in there:

"We receive different kinds of information from your device, like how you tap and scroll, which can help distinguish humans from bots and detect fraud."​

Instagram tracks how you scroll. Bots do not scroll, they jump from link to link applying actions. Followliker and the rest of the bots are likely dead now. Unless you have a script that applies a physical scrolling (cookies can detect whether the input is a mouse, trackpad, or finger swipe) using bots is flagging your account for shadowbox or possible full ban.
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so ur saying that my 5 year old instagram version 6.5.1 on my iPhone 4S with iOS 6.1.3 is gonna ban my account?

or you'll really claim that they started tracking scrolling in 2012?

stop fearmongering. It's not cool
 
The thing is, its not like they will block everyone using bots if they have this data. They will just quietly shadowban you and limit your reach. You wont have a clue as to what exactly you need to do to change it and you will be on their hit-list anyway.
 
Instagram already knows everyone that has used or is currently using a bot. They are collecting more data to train their anti-spam AI.
I've analysed Instagram app traffic and there are a couple of specific requests (like POST /logging_client_events) that send out a LOT of human behaviour that is ALMOST impossible to fake because even a small little error in calculations would put you on their list.

If anyone is highly skilled and wants to JV with me to make a private and undetected bot (and has ideas on how to bypass the anti-spam completely) please PM me and we can work on it together.
 
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mnunes532 said:
You don't know what you are talking about either. Most known bots don't use the browser... they are based on http requests only.
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You could use a headless browser to do this. A private bot may be, but quite possible.
 
prot0 said:
Instagram already knows everyone that has used or is currently using a bot. They are collecting more data to train their anti-spam AI.
I've analysed Instagram app traffic and there are a couple of specific requests (like POST /logging_client_events) that send out a LOT of human behaviour that is ALMOST impossible to fake because even a small little error in calculations would put you on their list.

If anyone is highly skilled and wants to JV with me to make a private and undetected bot (and has ideas on how to bypass the anti-spam completely) please PM me and we can work on it together.
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People who don't know how apps work don't understand that unfortunately.
 
mnunes532 said:
Sure, send messages and upload videos in the browser ;)
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What's stopping those bots use http requests in cases where the headless browser wont work? ;)

Scrolling/clicking etc are pretty easy to manipulate, that's what I was trying to mention.
 
BraveBotter said:
Well, you're wrong. ;) There's one that I'm sure is doing it.
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Highly doubt it, most of the bots here use detected 'private' api from instagram app. To implement scrolling randomization you would need automation in emulator
 
1. Bots can scroll.
2. Bot makers have already done that with their bots.
3. IG kills bots = IG kills itself.
4. If you still think IG botting is dead and don't bother to try and figure out it isn't, then good, less competition for us.
 
Looks like they are logging xy positions and pages that you visit.
 
LightningKing said:
1. Bots can scroll.
2. Bot makers have already done that with their bots.
3. IG kills bots = IG kills itself.
4. If you still think IG botting is dead and don't bother to try and figure out it isn't, then good, less competition for us.
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I doubt that bots can scroll. That would require in-app automation and bots just use APIs from the app, not interacting with the app itself.
Most likely everyone who used IG bots in the past or is using them now is already detected by IG anti-spam algorithms.
They won't ban you, but they could do literally anything. Including limiting your reach and show your posts/follow notification to less and less people.
 
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