Instagram announces that botting is dead
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LightningKing
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No. Bots do not use only API. Jarvee is a good example.
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Should I stop any actions on Jarvee If I don't want my accounts to be banned ? At least until they update the bot ?
ilovetobun69
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Eh i do not have a problem with my 100 accounts but okay. I use gmt tooI don't believe any of the bots that are sold here do that lol
Any good coder knows that .The anti bot always checks small details . I'm sure they botted games before so I'm sure they would do the same for Instagram.
They "updated" to scare people away and probaly to show they do stuff to "protect "
ilovetobun69
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Don't freak out . You really think they didn't have this before they made a "update"?
gtothem
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Most Instagram functions such as follow, unfollow, search, like, comment can be done on the website via HTTP. Its only posting and a few other things that require using the private API that the IG app uses.
Even then it wouldn't be the hardest task in the world to reverse engineer several sessions and generate fake ones based on the data.
Even then it wouldn't be the hardest task in the world to reverse engineer several sessions and generate fake ones based on the data.
followerise
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nonsense, everything will be fine
klique
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You doubt bots can scroll? That's one of the silliest things I've heard in a while. But maybe you just don't know much about programming. Moving the mouse in a bot is alot easier than it is to code the login script to log accounts in. It really doesn't require that much effort, they'd have to do alot more than that to stop instagram automation. If a person can wrote a code to automate instagram, I can guarantee you that they'll have no trouble implementing that. And that's coming from personal experience.
ritafairclough
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Well if botting is dead, someone needs to tell my Jarvee setup.
seoexpress
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yes and they are banning suspecting accounts as well
prot0
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I doubt that the IG bots around here (public and paid) are actually scrolling. One does not simply make a bot to run just one account on it but to scale it to hundreds of accounts.
The only way to automate IG app would be have 1 account for each android emulator and automate it programmatically. So for 100 accounts you'd need 100 emulators every one of which takes at minimum 500 MB of memory. 100*500 MB = 50 GB of memory just to run those emulators/vm. Not to count the fact that they suck a lot of CPU (I've been running Android VMs for years and they still suck at performance).
The only way to do it would be to discard completely the idea of emulating android app and work on the desktop version, but the problem with this approach is that their anti spam AI could look anyone using only desktop version of IG as a potential spammer so you'd get more limits to overcome (this is just personal opinion, NOT a fact. I'll be trying this approach ASAP as it is the ONLY way to try to fight Instagram).
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Official response from Jarvee :
"Hi, There's nothing to worry about. Instagram did that for a long time already, but now they just sent you notification about it since they had to. We were aware of this and we're replicating human behavior, using your account in Jarvee is same as you use it in official IG app."
"Hi, There's nothing to worry about. Instagram did that for a long time already, but now they just sent you notification about it since they had to. We were aware of this and we're replicating human behavior, using your account in Jarvee is same as you use it in official IG app."
mnunes532
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Well, its easy to find out if they do it. If anyone has that bot and wants to find out, send me a pm and we'll find it out together
mnunes532
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Well, I didn't know jarvee had a trial I went to check and they take care of the login the right way. I didn't bother checking other features. jarvee is using the version 40.0.0.7.95 of the instagram app. It isn't the latest version but not a very old one either.
I went to check and they take care of the login the right way. I didn't bother checking other features. jarvee is using the version 40.0.0.7.95 of the instagram app. It isn't the latest version but not a very old one either.
EnhancedHuman
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I doubt there are any bot users with good engagement. That's as bad as being banned
prot0
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Well, I didn't know jarvee had a trial
Assuming you sniffed the traffic it sends to Instagram servers, did you check analytics sent to instagram? I'm talking about both /ajax/bz and /logging_client_events endpoints.
Do they really use Instagram app or they use desktop version?
mnunes532
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I checked it again. I saw requests to /logging_client_events BUT it was made from a headless browser it seems because the user-agent is from a normal browser and not usual user-agent from the app. And yes, they use the mobile app api BUT they also send requests to the web version of instagram (to login page etc, not sure why) at the same time and that's a red flag because a normal user don't do that.
Anyway, its really easy to catch these bots that don't act like the normal app. Instagram knows who is using bots. Besides, all accounts that are using jarvee bot are using the same "instagram app version", that's another red flag. And then all those accounts start using the same version once again as soon as jarvee developers update the "instagram app version". Luckily jarvee is using random user-agents but I don't think they have many of them but that isn't enough...