Using SEO to manipulate stock prices

Here is a pump and dump case study I came across. Pretty interesting.

Code:
http://csinvesting.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/great-wall-gwbu-pump-and-dump.pdf

On another note, I read that during fears of new wars breaking out gold related sock is a good investment, so I just bought some shares of this:

Code:
https://www.google.com/finance?q=NYSEARCA:GDX&ei=30wfUujNPObn0gHv0QE
 
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Here is a pump and dump case study I came across. Pretty interesting.

Code:
http://csinvesting.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/great-wall-gwbu-pump-and-dump.pdf

On another note, I read that during fears of new wars breaking out gold related sock is a good investment, so I just bought some shares of this:

Code:
https://www.google.com/finance?q=NYSEARCA:GDX&ei=30wfUujNPObn0gHv0QE

after reading that case study, there surely has got to be a way to identify them early on enough to hop on board, without it being illegal since there is no prior knowledge of the press release. Whats your skype man, we should chat/brainstorm
 
this could be turned into a nice JV :) ... as another member stated earlier in this thread ... this is the kind of stuff i like seeing on BHW :D
 
Here's what usually happens during pump and dump stocks (I also explain it when I write penny stock articles or promoting such products):

1) Someone or even the "CEO" of the penny stock company pays a "guru" to create a hype on the penny stock.

2) The guru, usually own several "free penny stock newsletter" sites get a compensation from the third-party and immediately blast his email. He could even hire people to post in Yahoo Finance groups to get more attention on the particular penny stock.

3) When the market opens, everyone start buying the stock. Demand pumps the price and the bid ratio gets higher and higher. The price soars quickly because penny stocks are very sensitive to supply and demand as compared to normal stocks due to their high market capitalization. And since penny stocks are usually priced less than a dollar (usually $0.08-$0.50), people will buy in huge lots.

4) Price soars. And when a penny stock soars, such phenomenon will receive market attention. It will appear in categories like "highest volume for penny stock" or "biggest gain in 1 day penny stock". So now, the non-subscribers and neutral market participants suddenly focus on this penny stock.

5) The next market day, the neutral market participants start buying too. This pushes the price further. Now the first third-party member who compensated the guru to blast the newsletter could be selling off his positions gradually to avoid spiking the market's price and volume; or he/she could just sell off everything at once. If the former choice was made, usually the market will last a few more days; but if it's the latter choice, the market will drop drastically and this could spark a panic-selling.

6) Usually when there isn't much demand and buying, the price will start to stall. Those whom own the share will start selling, and panic-selling usually ensues. Next thing you know, the stock price fell to new lows.

So who's the winner? Obviously the third-party. He could have bought his penny stocks at $0.50 a share and bought 100,000 of it. And later sell it off at $0.90, earning a profit of $40K (before commission, fees, and capital tax).


I knew what was going on and I actually started an online trading account with eTrade. I bought $3K worth of penny stocks when a guru announce the stock. I remember selling it when the penny stock rose by $0.15 or so. I made about $500-600. Forgotten. I tried to do the same thing for the next trade but lost $1K because it went unexpectedly wrong. The market didn't receive as much hype as anticipated. And everyone sold their positions off within the first hour of the market opening. I didn't react quick and I was stuck trying to sell my positions. Example: I tried to limit-sell my positions at $0.80, but the buyers only bid for $0.78. I changed my order type to market order (which means sell whatever the bid is asking), but the volume was so low I couldn't sell all my positions. It dragged on for several hours and I lost $1K because of that.

Yeap, that was my newbie times in trading. After that I closed my account and traded Spread Betting (CFDs). I couldn't control my emotions and discipline and lost about $5K. I made stupid mistakes too like I buy Microsoft (MSFT) stocks instead of Abbott.
My total lost for my assumptions, lack of discipline and emotions, and knowledge cost me $10K+ in total.

I stopped trading for about 2 years after that.

Recently started again, but this time I trade Options and the market. Doing well this time though.

Anyway, getting out of topic here. What I'm trying to say is... you can do it but the SEC is watching. Unless if you can do it through the loopholes. Notice how financial analyst always tell you when to "buy" a particular stock, but never tell you when to sell it exactly. Even if it does, it is at the wrong time. And who knows if the financial analyst is already holding stocks beforehand or is reporting for the sake of a third-party?
 
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If your marketing stock picks via a list, remember to have somewhere the usual BS about "investments can go up as well as down, and you may lose your money...." all the big companies do it to cover their asses, and it should work for you too.
 
The stock spam that zanlagor received would have worked. It looks like it spiked around the time the spam was sent out then dropped back down. Is it illegal to buy if you know that someone else is committing a pump and dump?
 
Interesting thread. Subscribed and waiting for updates!
 
pretty sure 50 cent aka curtis jackson made like 8-9 million doing something like this lol
 
It would make more sense to use social media for that purpose than SEO. SEO takes time, and social can easily make a buzz about something and devalue stocks short term.

Take a look at those "leaked" videos of miley cyrus $ex tape - they go viral within minutes of release, and some guy banks on PPD or what not. You can do the same with any company, build up groups/accounts and spam the fake press release that 'accidently' was published on an authority site.
 
Their are penny stock promoters who get paid to do this kind of thing all the time. It's more likely to work with small cap companies.

Campaign typically goes like this:
1) Find a celeb or someone to have some stock (even pay a celeb).
2) Mass spam email about the stock. Spam press releases all the time in the months up to the pump and dump.
3) Get social networks talking about the piece of junk.
4) Dump stocks at huge profit.

http://www.timothysykes.com/2011/05...ales-dropping-48-10-million-in-annua/?welcome
 
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People crack me up as if pump and dump was something new and the SEC is unaware of this tactic. Well, I guess it's a step above clicking your own website's ads!
 
Try it i hope your ass goes to jail for Neg rep'in me
 
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"Thread: Using SEO to manipulate stock prices
useless member"

And Neg rep really ? What a dumbshit see if i offer any tips on keeping your ass out of jail next time go ahead and try it
They really need to show names for that stupid shit
 
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people do this every day, they called "campaigns" in legal terms
doing this isn't illegal as long as you are confined to your exchange legal guidelines
 
-neg again for stupid shit. I tell you what fuck you and the horse you rode in on I bet if your nameless ass speaks up ive been in the marketing game a hell of a lot longer then you dickhead.and i bet ive made 10 times what your ass has made with internet marketing since i began

Why dont the mods ban stupid fucks that -neg for stupid shit? ah i bet its because they are paid members.
They get there little bullshit colored name and ride there high horse thinking there some badass when you dont know a fucking thing
Hide behind the no name -rep dickhead.
Every comment i made in this thread before editing them was a good and honest comment to do with topic unlike most of you that just fuckin post to raise your count.
but because of the bullshit neg rep ill no longer put up comments and really dont give a fuck if i get banned because this place is full of stupid fucks that think there the shit when in fact most are shit and cant do shit..
So go on and try it then speak the fuck up and stop hiding behind the no name neg rep so i can report your ass and you will end up where you belong.

This board use to be very good but the surge of dickheads that do not know shit wanting to neg rep people because they fill they are badass just because they bought there name is unreal
"Thread: Using SEO to manipulate stock prices
stfu, noob."
 
-neg again for stupid shit. I tell you what fuck you and the horse you rode in on I bet if your nameless ass speaks up ive been in the marketing game a hell of a lot longer then you dickhead.and i bet ive made 10 times what your ass has made with internet marketing since i began

Why dont the mods ban stupid fucks that -neg for stupid shit? ah i bet its because they are paid members.
They get there little bullshit colored name and ride there high horse thinking there some badass when you dont know a fucking thing
Hide behind the no name -rep dickhead.
Every comment i made in this thread before editing them was a good and honest comment to do with topic unlike most of you that just fuckin post to raise your count.
but because of the bullshit neg rep ill no longer put up comments and really dont give a fuck if i get banned because this place is full of stupid fucks that think there the shit when in fact most are shit and cant do shit..
So go on and try it then speak the fuck up and stop hiding behind the no name neg rep so i can report your ass and you will end up where you belong.

This board use to be very good but the surge of dickheads that do not know shit wanting to neg rep people because they fill they are badass just because they bought there name is unreal
"Thread: Using SEO to manipulate stock prices
stfu, noob."
Judging by your post, this is you as an IM.
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PS: In b4 the mods show you the door, don't let it hit your arse on the way out.
 
What you going to neg rep me to? i dont care any more man I make a post and then the higher then mighty guys want to neg rep for bullshit
Are you mean can get worse by coming by my house? if so let me know ill be glad to hook it up.

You should follow that advice. It can get worse, you know.
 
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