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Starting with a PA 41 DA 37 domain...?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Adri124, Jan 25, 2015.

  1. Adri124

    Adri124 Newbie

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    Hi! I'm going to start a new project due its low competition and good search volume, but I have a question: there is some problem if I use a PA 41 DA 37 expired domain with a good backlinks profile? its backlinks are of a different niche of the niche I'm going to work with.

    Considering all the time that new EMD domains need to start ranking nowadays, I think it would be better this expired domain with authority

    So the question would be: expired domain with authority or new EMD domain? Why?
     
  2. jon_xx_x

    jon_xx_x Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Should be okay to use it, but you better make sure it's not penalized.
    If it's a long term project that you want to stick, I'd just use a new domain or one that is 100% safe and use the expired one in a PBN. I'm willing to be majority of expired domains with high DA that people think they found a gem, really are just expired penalized domains. Sometimes they aren't easy to spot.
     
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  3. ezine.writer

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    Perfect Said Jon, he would better be using that expire Domain to his safe PBN rather using it directly as main site.. Your Money site is your Hard Work , don't let google ruin it for just some lame causes.
     
  4. Raffy

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    I would be very careful around expired domains with those PA/DA numbers. Check archive.org to make sure its had a clean history.

    The problem with high PA/DA is it can be increased by straight spam. You can find expired domains all day long that are 40+ PA/DA but full of dick pill spam. TF (trustflow) is going to be a more reliable metric to look at because it's not easily manipulated by spam. I'm not saying PA/DA is useless but I'd be cautious when looking at expired domains with high PA/DA.
     
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    How do you spot that? For me if I see a domain with a clean non-spammy backlink profile and branded anchors with little keyword anchor text I assume it is good to. What other criteria do you have?
     
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    Such a domain might have been spammed in the past, penalised, and lost all it's spammy links. This is why I ensure that any domain I buy hasn't been dropped at all.
     
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    i wouldn't take the risk , i would prefer going with the EMD and use the other one to build backlinks (like jon said)
     
  8. Adri124

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    Thanks to all!! I think I will use this authority domain as my money site, its anchor profile is good, is indexed, and its mR is 4.3
     
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    that means losing a lot of potentially decent domains.
     
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    If I'm starting a legit site, I look for a brandable, quality domain name first. Usually what I end up with are some domains that have good names and decent domain metrics that are listed on Godaddy auctions. I may pay $xxx for them, but the age/link profile helps get things going. Most importantly, it has a name that's respectable and that users would click through to.

    The struggle with finding domains for money sites is users trusting the site IMO, getting a legit sounding domain can be difficult. But it's really important, especially if you are dealing with high DA low PA sites for competition, which is normally the case for weaker keywords.
     
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    Make sure its not penalized, google indexed domains are better.

    PA, DA are really easy to Game so make sure that you check the backlinks and more iMportantly, their Anchors.

    IMHO, domains with age are better than Expired Domains.
     
  12. madhurajesh

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    Look at its backlink profile and if you spot all decent links, you may be good to go ahead with it. However, nothing beats getting started with a decent new domain.
     
  13. cipango

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    It's really hard for a domain that once had a bunch of spam links to lose all of them and not leave a trace. Again, if DA is inflated with spam links, those spam links should still be visible in the OSE. If the DA is high and links are clean, and the history in archive.org is clean too, there's a very high chance the domain is good. If it indexes after you put a page or two on it, you have a good one. I can find a handful of okay domains per day like that, and on some I built my sites, and the others I use to rank my sites. I see no reason to be super paranoid about hidden spam links.
     
  14. jon_xx_x

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    That's the problem it's not always easy to do. I will use ahrefs. Check backlinks and click "all". Some sites may have a good profile. But you click "all" and you'll see hundreds, even thousands of links from 2012-2013, of links that are more than likely spam. A lot of people miss this. They check current links and think it's okay.

    Another step, which I think someone mention is archive.org. Check what the site looked like over the past few years. If it's some spammy ass looking site, I'd probably avoid it.

    Third is using SEM Rush, and I use this for guest posts too. Look at the traffic. A lot of sites that offer guest posts or allow you to pay for guest posts, you'll see a sharp decline in traffic, where Google penalized them. No point in getting a link on these sites, in my opinion.

    If you come across a great expired domain or very cheap auctioned domain, it should be an immediate red flag. Remember, there are thousands of people doing the exact same thing as you, ask yourself how you of all people found this domain and no one else.

    If you use this domain in your PBN, then it's not going to be a huge deal. But if you build a money site around this site and wonder why you're having problems ranking, you'll wonder if it actually ever was penalized.
     
  15. jon_xx_x

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    You would think so, but I have found domains I was interested in, plus have had some spam domains from myself from a couple years ago that show up relatively clean when you take a brief check in a backlink service. I don't know why but it seems majority of the spam links are dropped out of the backlink checkers over a couple years. Kinda weird actually.
     
  16. rafa16

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    If the backlink profile is good, without any spammy links and such, go for it.

    See if it is indexed by google by searching info:domain or site:domain. If its not there, beware.
     
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  17. WhiteHatTryHard

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    With a PA 41 DA 37 domain you wil make exactly 4000$ per day good work.

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    How dumb are people seriously.

    PA and DA tell you exactly noting.

    Authority i not defined by numbers, it is defined by if you are ranking or not XD

    DA 100 domin that doesnt rank is still useless.
     
  18. Breni

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    Expired domain is better than new one in my opinion. Check expired domain on wayback machine and also make sure the domain has no spammy links.