kickthat
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Um, you linked to this same thread
They got merged.
SEO has completely changed now! What really works in 2018?
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What makes me laugh is most of the wannabe on here don't even do the basics correctly, there so convinced there so advance they fuck up on the basics.
Well written content that outweighs the competition works better then stupid blasted links.
seo is not that hard all the information in front of you from your competition, once you understand how to audit a
whole website and see every detail they have done and x2 you're always win.
The only problem like said everything cost a lot these days to even get proper links, so if your skint seo a big problem.
but saying that it all competition, you can tell if it going to cost the bomb , the competition is in front of you...
there also different in depth strategies to consider with seo these days as well.
social content
social stats
social engagement
website interest
website engagement
verified info/truth
socal badge recognition
plr reconition
all the above are some of the advance seo theory google looks out for these days ......
I want to point out one more very important seo change , that nearly here and it coming......
VERIFICATION
AND THERE
FICTION
Eventually all written content will have to be verified as truth or fiction .
all seo masters will have to have there content stamped verified or fiction .
it will be part of a google service for all seo designers .
News websites are trying it already and so is some facebook new ads and content .
so seo is going to change big time........
you might even get untrusted and trusted website stamped
Well written content that outweighs the competition works better then stupid blasted links.
seo is not that hard all the information in front of you from your competition, once you understand how to audit a
whole website and see every detail they have done and x2 you're always win.
The only problem like said everything cost a lot these days to even get proper links, so if your skint seo a big problem.
but saying that it all competition, you can tell if it going to cost the bomb , the competition is in front of you...
there also different in depth strategies to consider with seo these days as well.
social content
social stats
social engagement
website interest
website engagement
verified info/truth
socal badge recognition
plr reconition
all the above are some of the advance seo theory google looks out for these days ......
I want to point out one more very important seo change , that nearly here and it coming......
VERIFICATION
Code:
verification
ˌvɛrɪfɪˈkeɪʃ(ə)n/
noun
noun: verification; plural noun: verifications
[LIST=1]
[*]the process of establishing the truth, accuracy, or validity of something.
"the verification of official documents"
synonyms: confirmation, substantiation, corroboration, attestation, affirmation, validation, authentication, endorsement, accreditation, ratification, establishment, certification; More
[LIST]
[*]PHILOSOPHY
the establishment by empirical means of the validity of a proposition.
"the verification principle"
[*]the process of ensuring that procedures laid down in weapons limitation agreements are followed
[/LIST]
[/LIST]AND THERE
FICTION
Code:
fiction
ˈfɪkʃ(ə)n/
noun
noun: fiction; plural noun: fictions
[LIST=1]
[*]1.
literature in the form of prose, especially novels, that describes imaginary events and people.
synonyms: novels, stories, creative writing, imaginative writing, works of the imagination, prose literature, narration, story telling; More
antonyms: non-fiction
[*]2.
something that is invented or untrue.
"they were supposed to be keeping up the fiction that they were happily married"
synonyms: fabrication, invention, lies, fibs, concoction, untruth, falsehood, fantasy, fancy, illusion, sham, nonsense; More
antonyms: fact, truth
[LIST]
[*]a belief or statement which is false, but is often held to be true because it is expedient to do so.
"the notion of the country being a democracy is a polite fiction"
[/LIST]
[/LIST]Eventually all written content will have to be verified as truth or fiction .
all seo masters will have to have there content stamped verified or fiction .
it will be part of a google service for all seo designers .
News websites are trying it already and so is some facebook new ads and content .
so seo is going to change big time........
you might even get untrusted and trusted website stamped
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br4sco
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I like the analogyJust keep throwing shit against the wall and something will eventually stick. But try to improve your shit throwing technique in the meantime.
VaLeRyA
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I have sites extremely spammed with links
I have sites that should be number 1 in a seo score against my competitors
and sites that only have a few links of fb and yb
very difficult, a niche unwanted by most included G, B, Y, YT, FB
the only thing that differentiates me from my competitors for me and so far
google loves the links, while these are more expensive for you, you will receive more love
those who want to extract water from the stones will be more and more hated by google
Businesses are becoming more concentrated
Maybe it's time to unify our forces, and I do not mean a group of seos. but thousands sharing profits.... Does it remind you of something pools of bitcoin miners?
I hope it was consistent with my idea, I'm not good at speaking English
I have sites that should be number 1 in a seo score against my competitors
and sites that only have a few links of fb and yb
very difficult, a niche unwanted by most included G, B, Y, YT, FB
the only thing that differentiates me from my competitors for me and so far
google loves the links, while these are more expensive for you, you will receive more love
those who want to extract water from the stones will be more and more hated by google
Businesses are becoming more concentrated
Maybe it's time to unify our forces, and I do not mean a group of seos. but thousands sharing profits.... Does it remind you of something pools of bitcoin miners?
I hope it was consistent with my idea, I'm not good at speaking English
Whether Web2.0's are expired or new one? If new one have you created backlinks to Web2.0's?
Have you used main keywords as anchor in web2.0?
aidenhera
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Um, you linked to this same thread
I see this "expired domains don't work the way they used to" thing quite a bit lately, countered by people saying "they work as well as they always have". I'm wondering if this has to do with how people set up and treat their PBN sites. Like maybe, for example, if you just make a one page PBN site that doesn't topically match the original site or the linking sites, just 301 all backlinks to homepage, and post your moneysite link immediately, then you get crap results. (This is just my theory.)
@Nargil Can you provide any insight on how to best treat an expired domain? I know you've mentioned it's best to let the PBN site age for a couple of months before posting your link. What about all the backlinks to inner pages? I feel that simply "301-ing all 404's to homepage" is the approach most likely to lose juice.
What I've been doing on some of my PBN sites is restoring the inner page URLs, but using my own content that topically matches whatever the original site had there. The idea is that this way Google has less reason to consider the existing backlinks irrelevant and devalue them. I don't like the idea of restoring stuff from Wayback because I don't want copyright issues or duplicate content issues if the previous owner moved their content elsewhere.
I don't know if this is a good approach and it's too early to talk about results. Any comments would be highly appreciated.
do you think if I use 404 to 301 way then the domains are already marked? or all I have to do is just to change it to normal way and link juice will come back
OutOfContext
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In all honesty, I don't know. I wouldn't go about changing all my sites merely based on the conjecture that 404 to 301 is bad. If you are getting results from your PBN, I'd say leave them. And if your PBN sites are indexed and they show up in SERPs when you search for full article titles, for example, I doubt they're "marked" for anything.
The only reason that I mentioned the 404 to 301 approach is that there were some articles on the web about Google devaluing 301 redirects to unrelated content, and also one article (on the EBN blog, I believe) about such sites getting deindexed more often than others. Plus, let's be honest, 404 to 301 is the laziest option, and laziest options tend to give the worst results nowadays and are also the easiest to catch. However, none of this is necessarily the truth or the complete truth.
OutOfContext
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Okay, sorry, now I understand why somebody seemed to have posted a complete copy of the OP and got 5 likes for it.
OutOfContext
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You have pretty much the same approach as I do. I try to avoid the redirects unless the backlinks are all over the inner pages (massively). Recreating URLs with my own content or just leaving them as "content not found" is surely a better option. I also never recreate the content of the previous sites, as I believe that the perfect niche relevancy between PBN and money site is a must when it comes to content. I also believe people underestimate the power of the content when it comes to sheer size and of course, onsite SEO. 3 - 5 articles on your PBN will not cut it. Shitty full homepage articles won't cut it either. 1 OBL link to your money site as well. No interlinking? That's the least you can do for your PBN. There's dozens of really simple mistakes that people do here.
Why they do these mistakes... looking for quick results, lack of patience etc. And most of all, they are not treating their PBNs as assets. Scraped domains... alright, you can treat those however you want, but if you own expensive auction domains, then fuckin hell, at least try to treat them with a bit of respect and they will reward you for that.
However I admit that few of my clients had non existent results even with auction domains (RD200+, clean and all), where I simply could not determine the reason why they haven't moved a spot. The best we can do is to eliminate as many factors that prevent PBNs from working correctly. And rest... well, we have to hope for the best. Let's not be mistaken here, there's a huge damn chunk of luck involved with SEO. But the more you try, the bigger your chance of getting a nice ROI. Just keep throwing shit against the wall and something will eventually stick. But try to improve your shit throwing technique in the meantime.
Thanks for your input, greatly appreciated.
I understand your main approach is to use the inner page URL, but put different content on it. So you might have a PBN site scrapbookingprincess.net and there's a bunch of existing links pointing to scrapbookingprincess.net/magical-scrapbooking-ideas-for-christmas-2014/ or something, then you just use that URL but upload an article titled "Benefits of Industrial Vacuum Cleaners" (since the target moneysite that you'll eventually link to is about industrial vacuum cleaners). Is this more or less correct?
I'm kind of torn between making PBN content relevant to the existing backlinks and making it relevant to the target moneysite, that's why I'm asking.
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No it's not. I wouldn't use a non niche relevant domain which name or niche itself I can't repurpose or bend to fit my money site.
Jawadsatti
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i agree with niche related commenting no matter what pa is focus on related sites and you see boost in serp after some days i try this and it's work for me i also have my own PBN links so PBN + Niche related Comments work fine in 2018
fb3003
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perhaps the biggest lesson I have learned over the last few years. The worse thing you can is to blast links to your PBN.
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I try not to comment on shit like this as I would most likely be seen as biased but when I see idiots posting shit about how "Google confirmed resetting backlink profiles of dropped domains" I start to get angry.
Not only are the peddlers of this crap affecting my business by posting unconfirmed and unlikely conjecture as truth but they are also misleading everyone else in our community.
It is one thing to post something as your opinion but as soon as you post that it is confirmed without any evidence or independent testing you are hoping that the one person that stated it (without proof themselves) in an obscure google hangout video about a year ago you are being wilfully misleading or simply lazy. You should not be posting things as truth unless you know it to be true.
SEO has not changed much this year at all, compared to the changes seen such as the original Panda and Penguin updates we have seen no changes this year.
Can we all just agree to stop asking what is working and continue making content and backlinks, that is what works and it won't change.
Not only are the peddlers of this crap affecting my business by posting unconfirmed and unlikely conjecture as truth but they are also misleading everyone else in our community.
It is one thing to post something as your opinion but as soon as you post that it is confirmed without any evidence or independent testing you are hoping that the one person that stated it (without proof themselves) in an obscure google hangout video about a year ago you are being wilfully misleading or simply lazy. You should not be posting things as truth unless you know it to be true.
SEO has not changed much this year at all, compared to the changes seen such as the original Panda and Penguin updates we have seen no changes this year.
Can we all just agree to stop asking what is working and continue making content and backlinks, that is what works and it won't change.
1lonewolf
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sitemarker
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for MOST dropped domains and leaving it at that state for a lengthy period before registering, the answer is "yes"...... if i had a website that is linking to a once live website/domain and I find out that it has ceased to be a live site it once was, then it just makes sense that I stop linking to that website...in this scenario Google has nothing to do with it. There are automated software that can detect dead links and services peope can hire that will remove such links.
That said and as a domainer since 1998, if you are contemplating buying aged domains that has some authority, then buy the ones that have expired or expiring, NOT the drop domains. There is a difference or A HUGE difference especialy if you want to use these domains to build your own PBN, I will leave it up to you to do your own due diligence. RegisterCompass is a service that lets you browse through literally thousands of domains that are expiring daily, and can tell you the domain's age, number of backlinks and even the type of sites that are linking to each expiring domain eg edu, ,gov, CNN ( rare but a real gem if you find one)
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We have another one, just because link numbers will drop over time it does not mean that Google completely resets the backlink profile that they see. Stop posting this crap.
Some sites diligently check their outbound links to ensure they are not sending out link juice to non existent sites, this is a tiny minority of sites. Some sites will check the backlinks when their content is updated, this is probably the majority, however this is a smaller percentage of sites than you might imagine.
Eventually all domains' backlinks profiles will reduce to 0 given enough time and no new links being built as backlink partners will remove / change content or go down themselves. This is NOT the same as Google resetting a backlink profile so do not try saying it is.
Funny thing is that I had a guy about a year ago ask for a refund based on reading this shit about what 1 guy in a google hangout video stated about backlink profiles resetting. He stated that it had become fact that expired domains would no longer be usable and that PBNs are going the way of the dodo. Suffice to say this customer has since come back, bought the lifetime license of my software (not cheap by the way) and is one of the more prominent proponents of PBNs and expired domains, his mind has changed as the PBN apocalypse never came.
sitemarker
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Read before you draw your gun ,mate
I mentioned " Google has nothing to do with it...."
phas3d
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Yep, I read the original post and couldn't believe the pure, utter garbage. So much of this site is weeding through all the BS to get to the content of real value. It's sad that so many low quality people keep peddling their fake, crap understanding of SEO and they all seem to come from the same country.
It's not just this site though. I see many posts on other sites like Moz and many of their Whiteboards that are just complete BS and have been repeatedly refuted and disproved by industry leaders (hell, SIA has a several videos refuting their advice).
If anyone is interested in learning SEO then just test these 'tactics' yourself. Learn from people who have actual examples and reports from their tests to show. Anyone posting stupid threads like this one with a How-To without relevant examples and reporting is just completely full of shit.
singingsleep
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SEO for your personal biz or SEO for aff mktg? Two different approaches.
If aff mktg if you are working at all that's working too hard. Study keyword research, test with blogspot stats until the shrooms kick in.
If aff mktg if you are working at all that's working too hard. Study keyword research, test with blogspot stats until the shrooms kick in.