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PBN Or 301 Redirects ?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by marcuses, Feb 4, 2017.

  1. marcuses

    marcuses Regular Member

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    I want to buy some old domains with good metrics to help my moneysite up in ranking, now i have get some domains with good metrics, should i use as pbn or just do a 301 redirect, as i wont have much time to manage them in pbn, so will 301 work well
     
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    Beefsteak Registered Member

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    Turning it into a PBN is the safer and stronger option. 301s are a little risky and they lose their authority over time. A PBN will provide a contextual link (more valuable than a 301) and, assuming it's taken care of, will grow authority over time.
     
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    710fla Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Question has been asked 3 times this week. Go with PBN, safer and you can target your main keywords directly
     
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    darulez Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    +1. my case studies proved the same conclusion

    however, you can still use 301s als a T1
     
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    301 redirects will rank your site much faster but are more expensive
     
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    Thanks y'all
    why do you say that? do i have to keep buying links for 301 more than a pbn ?
     
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    301 Redirect is good, because google can target PBN blogs with same keyword but its can never penalized redirect blog because it's necessary. Keep in mind that don't try more domain just 2..3
     
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    For one money site the amount of expired domains and the cost would be the same.
    You can only point redirect domains toward one money site at a time.
    If you have more than one money site that you want to rank with 301 redirects then that is where the extra expense comes in
     
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    I used to spend a ton of money every year managing PBN's and now I just use 301's.

    My theory as to why it works as good, if not better for me is that there is a lot of "whois" and "about" domain pages on the internet and they are providing me with enough linkjuce to rank. It does not make sense as these sites do not have anything at all to do with my niche.

    Also, I strongly believe that PBN's are kind of dead anyway, and your rank is mainly based on social network interaction.
     
  11. marcuses

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    Thanks now, i understand

    I want to go for 301 redirects now, to make them have more power can i continue building links to then or just leave em as they already have some good metrics
     
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    I just leave them and focus all my resources on social media
     
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    301 1 domain and keep the rest for your PBN.
     
  14. marcuses

    marcuses Regular Member

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    okay, thanks

    why ? can you share your experience with me about 301 and PBN
     
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    Are you sure about this? Why would Google rank my moneysite higher when I got a link from site xy than when they find out xy IS my moneysite?
    Shouldn't the latter be the stronger signal as almost all link juice should be passed through?
     
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    with reasons I tend to think in your way, its true
     
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    What are you guys thinking about setting a 301 blog along my money blog (make a 301 to money site) and then constantly linking both of them? Or that makes no sense?
     
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    @bendutchman how many 301s do you do to a single money site?
     
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    If you use these domains to create PBN then it is better rather than just 301 redirect. PBN give the much power to your money site.
     
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    This question appears here every single day. Do you people even bother using search function or Googling?

    site:blackhatworld.com 301 PBN

    https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/301-redirect-or-pbn.815722/
    https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/pbn-or-301-redirect-merger.832913/
    https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/301-redirect-vs-pbn.854599/
    https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/turning-domains-into-pbns-vs-301ing-them.903235/
    https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/pbn-vs-hq-backlinks-vs-301s.904914/
    https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/301-302-redirect-for-pbn-worth-to-buy-help.901595/
    https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/good-metrics-expired-domain-turn-into-301-redirect-or-pbn.872822/

    And I could continue for 2 more days.

    Unless you have a SUPER relevant and STRONG domain with 100-200 and much more RD, then yes. Otherwise, it's a PBN domain and don't even bother with 301 redirects, because in most cases, they will simply not work, even if you do everything correctly. Stop being impatient and expect more bang for the buck than you possibly can get and make a PBN out of those domains.
     
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