New YouTube views update
ledaponey
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- Jun 2, 2009
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Yes, it seems that for any weird reason YouTube was able to target High Retention servers properly. Instead of making them drop or not working like usually, YouTube started counting the retention in the opposite way (30/40 seconds), that means super low retention views.
Think about that because it's an smart move from their side, instead of making the servers not working they make them work, but in the opposite way. The best way to hurt the fake views bussiness is to make panel clients not to buy.
Tried several panels that were working properly before (in watch time terms) with some friends and we all have the same results, our retention is completely fucked up and super below the average. There's no trick this time to unfreeze the views count, I'll look closer this weekend to the subject.
Galaktus
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- Feb 21, 2014
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I think we will never have HR views (90% retention up to 3h videos) ever again. This time is over. I can remember the beginning in 2013. We had working 90%+ absolute retention views for up to 3h long videos and the price was 0,60$ for 1000 views. Good old times ...
ledaponey
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I think I should start working on my own servers instead of relying in third parties, it's not my business but in long term it's the best way to work and achieve your goals.
ledaponey
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You sure? Why would they change a script that’s working 100%?It's not like youtube is deciding the retentionit's the developers that making changes in the script
I think he/she is referring to the Youtube developers changing the script which coincided with the lack of retention.
Cyberars
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There was no new YouTube update!, the last big update that disabled our NRV - HR views system was on APRIL, at that time it had impact some other providers as well, since YouTube patched a very old exploit that used as a base for that old HR method.
anyway as our developer see it, the 80%-90% retention for 3 hours is not going to return to the market in the near future, but new methods are under development as we speak, as long as there is demand for quality the market will supply!
at the meantime you can find low-retention views, note that some will try to sell it as HR, so better check what you get
anyway as our developer see it, the 80%-90% retention for 3 hours is not going to return to the market in the near future, but new methods are under development as we speak, as long as there is demand for quality the market will supply!
at the meantime you can find low-retention views, note that some will try to sell it as HR, so better check what you get
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Deleted member 657006
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the whole smm in trouble , the big guns are using ai on human statistics ...
might be long wait till it all slow down to be rebuilt
it will start agin once the ai is defeated
same shit as massplanner days except with ai doing the work
as soon as everything balance out programmers of smm will be back .
it a sit and wait game...
this is part of blackhat marketing
most services went up 300% there dead now , like i say them ai collect info very fast and stamp it out .
when it all balance out and progrsmmers at the top leak a solution will all be back maybe same way or diffrent way ...
there been rumours for years ,likes and views was going to be stoped ,so let wait and see , maybe we going to see massive change on all
who no's
(( every single marketer are waiting , but most marketers have a thu whitehat methods doing very well how there surviving opposed to there blackhat methods .))
warning was ...
NEVER PUT ALL EGGS IN ONE BASKET ...
ALWAYS SAVE FOR RAINY DAYS
might be long wait till it all slow down to be rebuilt
it will start agin once the ai is defeated
same shit as massplanner days except with ai doing the work
as soon as everything balance out programmers of smm will be back .
it a sit and wait game...
this is part of blackhat marketing
most services went up 300% there dead now , like i say them ai collect info very fast and stamp it out .
when it all balance out and progrsmmers at the top leak a solution will all be back maybe same way or diffrent way ...
there been rumours for years ,likes and views was going to be stoped ,so let wait and see , maybe we going to see massive change on all
who no's
(( every single marketer are waiting , but most marketers have a thu whitehat methods doing very well how there surviving opposed to there blackhat methods .))
warning was ...
NEVER PUT ALL EGGS IN ONE BASKET ...
ALWAYS SAVE FOR RAINY DAYS
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Deleted member 657006
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when will it be fixed .
that the golden nuget .
the truth is , when will the ai programmers be able to find a solution (( might take years, might happen tomorrow ))
no one can answer this it a massive task and ai programming skill to reverse engineer what 1 ai created to solve a solution .
what where waiting for is when a ai crates a rule for our ai to reverse it to work agin , it going to be a right headake.
self leaning ai aginst each over , and that no lie what the problem is now...
a bot will cost a fortune just to subscribe for ai updates, and there be hundreds daily self-learning unless you get a nice bot maker who understands the ai programming skill still do lifetime apps
that the golden nuget .
the truth is , when will the ai programmers be able to find a solution (( might take years, might happen tomorrow ))
no one can answer this it a massive task and ai programming skill to reverse engineer what 1 ai created to solve a solution .
what where waiting for is when a ai crates a rule for our ai to reverse it to work agin , it going to be a right headake.
self leaning ai aginst each over , and that no lie what the problem is now...
a bot will cost a fortune just to subscribe for ai updates, and there be hundreds daily self-learning unless you get a nice bot maker who understands the ai programming skill still do lifetime apps
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with the 300% price rise if found
ledaponey
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But, if there’s no update why some servers that have been working properly as HR servers for me (70/75 watch time for 5 min videos) are now acting like super-low retention? Like 25/30 seconds or something like, super ridiculous.
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i was reading a big shit long exsplinstion on the ai programming aginst ai to keep blackhat going in the social world .
it was like scientists fighting for solutions , i no for a fact the ai programming concept has killed many , ill say it agin , many online business , with a ai programmer relising a script /code very scary shit .....
put it this way imagine you wanted email address and your a ai programmer , you can design a app to self learn human written email ways and collect the email endlessly build up databases in the millions daily ..... (( that powefull)) i am not talking scrapping , the app self learns human behaviour so it just keep collecting as it runs .
it was like scientists fighting for solutions , i no for a fact the ai programming concept has killed many , ill say it agin , many online business , with a ai programmer relising a script /code very scary shit .....
put it this way imagine you wanted email address and your a ai programmer , you can design a app to self learn human written email ways and collect the email endlessly build up databases in the millions daily ..... (( that powefull)) i am not talking scrapping , the app self learns human behaviour so it just keep collecting as it runs .
Musharraf
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- Jul 11, 2018
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Happened to me the other day. Views came, but they were less than 1 min retention. I thought the panel was lying about HR and just labelled regular views as HR.
I guess investing into own methods is not such a bad idea now.
Finding quality proxies is the main issue