Internal Experience & Spotify Specialist

haminuit said:

Hi everyone,

Years ago, I was already registered here and closely followed the discussions about streaming. Since then, I had the opportunity to work in the music industry and see from the inside how a very large distributor that I cannot name operates. In particular, I got insights into their anti-fraud section and how these systems work.

I also studied in detail how Spotify (and other platforms like Tidal, Apple, Amazon…) detect fake streams – and more importantly, how to bypass these systems.

Today, I mainly specialize in Spotify, since that’s where I have the most data and experience.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask.

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haminuit said:

Hi everyone,

Years ago, I was already registered here and closely followed the discussions about streaming. Since then, I had the opportunity to work in the music industry and see from the inside how a very large distributor that I cannot name operates. In particular, I got insights into their anti-fraud section and how these systems work.

I also studied in detail how Spotify (and other platforms like Tidal, Apple, Amazon…) detect fake streams – and more importantly, how to bypass these systems.

Today, I mainly specialize in Spotify, since that’s where I have the most data and experience.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask.

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GLAADIO said:

How do you get people to listen to your music? My songs are good but people don't know that

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beekeep888 said:

Utilisez-vous un robot ou un appareil de ferme pour le streaming ? Comment adapter le système au comportement humain ?

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Byte Watch said:

Thanks for sharing your background
sounds like you’ve got solid insider knowledge. I'd be curious to know: what are the most common triggers that flag streams as fake on Spotify? And how do you approach keeping stream sources looking organic?

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haminuit said:

A lot of people believe that Spotify, Tidal, or YouTube Music are heavily investing in fake stream detection. The reality is different.
These platforms don’t spend much on that themselves – instead, they put huge pressure on distributors (TuneCore, DistroKid, CD Baby, Ditto, Amuse, Feiyr, etc.).

The deal is simple:
If a distributor doesn’t invest enough in anti-fraud, Spotify or Tidal threaten to cut their aggregation.
And without aggregation, the distributor can’t deliver music to those platforms anymore.

So the real problem isn’t Spotify directly, but the anti-fraud budget of your distributor.
Each distributor has its own tolerance level, depending on how much they spend on detection tools.
Some react immediately and delete at the slightest suspicion.
Others, especially bigger ones handling large volumes, turn a blind eye as long as it doesn’t risk their partnership.

In short: the risk doesn’t come from the platforms themselves, but from your distributor’s anti-fraud system. That’s the weak link you need to analyze first.

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shijin said:

Vos astuces Spotify peuvent-elles également être appliquées à des genres de niche, ou simplement au grand public ?

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actionxade said:

Hey, I’m looking for some guidance on boosting Spotify engagement. I’ve got an artist with a strong real-life following in Thailand, and from what I see, a lot of Thai artists with big numbers are running heavy bots.
We have found private thai distributors, is it a good idea to sign up and give that a try?

I tested a small local SMM boost just to see results one track was on DistroKid (got taken down), the other on Empire (still up, ratios look decent). I hit pause because I don’t want to risk the distro deal.

do you think these Thai-style boosts are worth it, or should I stay away completely? And are you open for consultation?

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Byte Watch said:

Exactly, that’s a key point many overlook. The platforms rely heavily on distributors to manage fraud detection, and their varying policies create inconsistencies. So, understanding your distributor’s approach and anti-fraud measures is crucial to avoid issues with fake streams and maintain your music’s integrity. Thanks

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haminuit said:

Hi everyone,

Years ago, I was already registered here and closely followed the discussions about streaming. Since then, I had the opportunity to work in the music industry and see from the inside how a very large distributor that I cannot name operates. In particular, I got insights into their anti-fraud section and how these systems work.

I also studied in detail how Spotify (and other platforms like Tidal, Apple, Amazon…) detect fake streams – and more importantly, how to bypass these systems.

Today, I mainly specialize in Spotify, since that’s where I have the most data and experience.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask.

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haminuit said:

Voici mon dernier tournage (trimestriel).
Pour être clair, je n’ai rien à vendre.
Je suis juste ici pour partager et faire preuve d'un peu de souplesse.
Un immense merci à la communauté Black Hat qui m'a tout appris gratuitement en 2017.
Après toutes les vagues d'interdictions de l'époque, chacun a suivi sa propre voie… et c'est là que la mienne m'a dominé aujourd'hui. Respect à tous ceux qui continuent d'avancer.


Si votre artiste bénéficie déjà d'un public réel et solide en Thaïlande, je vous recommande de travailler avec de petites plateformes indépendantes spécialisées dans les diffusions géolocalisées. Cela permet d'optimiser les flux.

Je tiens également à souligner quelque chose (même si cela peut en contrarier certaines) :
Le SMM LOCAL n'est vraiment efficace que pour les artistes déjà établis ou pour les très gros catalogues.
Dans l'industrie des labels, le SMM est principalement utilisé pour réveiller l'algorithme de Spotify et propulser un morceau dans les tendances, et non pour générer directement du « trackmoney ».


Si vous êtes de votre configuration, c'est un peu comme marcher dans un parc et trouver un ticket sûr par terre.
Mais dans ce parc, il y a un agent de sécurité (Distrokid, Amuse, CD Baby, etc.)
S'il vous voit, il peut réagir de trois manières différentes.
il s'en fiche,
il prend sa part,
ou il vous dénonce.

Ensuite, c'est à vous de choisir le bon parc où vous plantez votre graine.

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360Sosyal said:

Good to see you share your experience on the Spotify side. Fraud detection systems are always a hot topic. In your opinion, what’s the main metric they focus on these days? Is it IP, device fingerprint, listening time, or are there other stronger signals?

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haminuit said:

Ciao a tutti,

Anni fa ero già iscritto qui e seguivo da vicino le discussioni sullo streaming. Da allora, ho avuto l'opportunità di lavorare nell'industria musicale e di vedere dall'interno come opera un distributore molto grande di cui non posso fare il nome. In particolare, ho avuto modo di approfondire la loro sezione antifrode e il funzionamento di questi sistemi.

Ho anche studiato in dettaglio come Spotify (e altre piattaforme come Tidal, Apple, Amazon...) rilevano gli streaming falsi e, cosa ancora più importante, come aggirare questi sistemi.

Oggi mi specializzo principalmente su Spotify, perché è lì che ho più dati ed esperienza.

Se avete domande, non esitate a chiedere.

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bsinedit said:

Do not use a VPN. You can use rotating 4G or residential proxies. You can mix. However, if you use a UK proxy, for example, make sure that the Spotify account is itself UK.

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