How long before SEO growth?

Hansj80

Hansj80

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So with this new website I've been focusing on several things

- unique content for the MS (2 blogs every week around 1000 words)
- on page SEO ( your standard basic keyword research and yoast)
- social media postings
- turning the blog into a video for extra sharing platforms
- backlinks building

I started around 4 months ago with this, the niche is law/lawyer.

My stats currently after 4 months are.

DA 21
DR 8
182 unique backlink
I get around 400 unique visitors (this is mostly still from direct sharing on social media and not organic search)
Of this around 50 are organic and I can see increase in serp.

I've learned that keyword research is key to creating these contents so lots of missteps in the process....

My question is how long does it normally take ?

P.s. it's not a churn and burn website so I am using blackhat tools with a white hat strategy for long term strategy
 
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It depends. Your niche doesn't seem much generic, so you'll have to experiment it for yourself.

Good luck!
 
Every niche is different, but the barrier to entry is higher the more competitive it is. In general terms, I tell people 12-18 months and 18-24 months in more competitive niches. Google puts a huge emphasis on age and authority and those obviously take time. Not saying you can't get traffic in the meantime, but patience is certainly part of the equation if you want to be in the SEO game.
 
no right answer, can be weekc, month or years. you can try to make quality backlink to fasten the process.
 
I think your niche is very narrow, just keep posting and checking your stats. Experience is the best teacher
 
Like others said there is no exact time limitation. Just keep up your good work until and after the ranking reaches high for all keywords.
 
KelvyTheBlacky said:
Just take keyword research seriously. If you do, you should be able to rank low to medium competition keywords easily within a few months.
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I use kwfinder to filter on searches vs KD. For example I find the Link strength of my site is around 18. So even after filtering on search and KD. I check if the top result matches a bit or is lower than my own LS of the website.

Missing anything here?

Also what would the best kd/search ratio to have. Like certain keyword has a KD of 2 bit also only 50 searches per month for it. Kind of difficult to find a sweet spot because for each kd you are still creating articles and SEO campaign running and social media etc...
 
Sometimes it may be a 1 week and sometimes even several months. Each niche is different.
 
Hansj80 said:
I use kwfinder to filter on searches vs KD. For example I find the Link strength of my site is around 18. So even after filtering on search and KD. I check if the top result matches a bit or is lower than my own LS of the website.

Missing anything here?

Also what would the best kd/search ratio to have. Like certain keyword has a KD of 2 bit also only 50 searches per month for it. Kind of difficult to find a sweet spot because for each kd you are still creating articles and SEO campaign running and social media etc...
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I'm personally not a big fan of Keyword Golden Ratio, i just think it's for newbies that still don't know the abc of keyword research.

I think you are on the right path with what you are doing in regards to finding low comp keywords, though. Then what i think you should instead be focusaing on is link building.
 
How long...

I'm in a niche where most would consider it easy BUT all my competitors are multi million pound companies..

Organic and social postings it took me 40 days to get my first sale. Taking things slow writing blogs, refocusing on content and working on and off the site for 3.5 years before focusing on it full time for 2 years.

It's taken me just over 5 years to rank for a snippet for over 80% of my products, rank page 1 pos 1 for two main keywords and I'm on page 1 pos 1 for all long term keywords and starting to hit page 1 for indirect keywords..

So depending on your goal and focus that might give you an idea! No paid ads, just limited social posting, limited link building (although its all niche specific) with a core focus on content and on-page
 
KelvyTheBlacky said:
I'm personally not a big fan of Keyword Golden Ratio, i just think it's for newbies that still don't know the abc of keyword research.

I think you are on the right path with what you are doing in regards to finding low comp keywords, though. Then what i think you should instead be focusaing on is link building.
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I post blogs, and create internal and external links on these blogs (1000words) then create backlinks for them through tiered method for related keywords of that blog post. I am indeed a newbie when it comes to keyword research so any heads up are highly appreciated!


t2van said:
How long...

I'm in a niche where most would consider it easy BUT all my competitors are multi million pound companies..

Organic and social postings it took me 40 days to get my first sale. Taking things slow writing blogs, refocusing on content and working on and off the site for 3.5 years before focusing on it full time for 2 years.

It's taken me just over 5 years to rank for a snippet for over 80% of my products, rank page 1 pos 1 for two main keywords and I'm on page 1 pos 1 for all long term keywords and starting to hit page 1 for indirect keywords..

So depending on your goal and focus that might give you an idea! No paid ads, just limited social posting, limited link building (although its all niche specific) with a core focus on content and on-page
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Darn that takes a long time but it is not easy to knock you from that position either except with an bag of money....

the niche where I operate is very expensive... in google ads it goes anything between 3usd up to 15usd per click depending on the search.... so I am not nagging about the 400 "free" visitors because otherwise those would have costed me 800usd minimum... no conversion atm and not thinking it will anytime soon..


Thanks everyone for the answers and they all make sense and there is no 1 fit all sizes method for this, which it also makes it kind of hard to measure whether you are on the right path or whether it is slow.
I pulled the search console and semrush and I got the following:

Can anyone give feedback on this also?
 

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Hansj80 said:
Darn that takes a long time but it is not easy to knock you from that position either except with an bag of money....
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My first few years though I used the site as more of a case study than doing anything serious with it. It wasn't still it started to bring in some decent income I decided to focus on it much more. I guess it was more of a passive hobby more than anything trying out new trends seeing what works what doesn't... just took time and effort.

If I was to do it again I got a pretty good idea what to do now to duplicate it in half the time..

Good luck :)
 
t2van said:
My first few years though I used the site as more of a case study than doing anything serious with it. It wasn't still it started to bring in some decent income I decided to focus on it much more. I guess it was more of a passive hobby more than anything trying out new trends seeing what works what doesn't... just took time and effort.

If I was to do it again I got a pretty good idea what to do now to duplicate it in half the time..

Good luck :)
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Thanks!

What keyword research tool would you recommend? Kwfinder? Semrush? Ahrefs? Or anything else?
 
Hansj80 said:
Thanks!

What keyword research tool would you recommend? Kwfinder? Semrush? Ahrefs? Or anything else?
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Depends what your site is...

I switched my entire research focus so I don't do much with any of those tools in fact I ditched Ahrefs after my subscription came to an end..

If I was to use it now, I would export a ton of keywords for your topic including indirect ones. Get all of that as a CSV.

Then Id start by grouping them all. Could be something like by Topic, Action, Subject, Offer etc.

Id spend about a week then googling them and looking at the SERPs seeing what google suggests, what people are asking and then build my list of topics around that.

Find new 'keywords' or 'long tail keywords' that fit the original search and look for a way to build that into the subject as a goal for snippet as well as focusing on the main topic.

Not much detail there happy to break it down further but thats kind of how I do things now.

It's no doubt a bit to heavy handed but I dont think any tool on the market gives a great result on what to rank or how to rank for it, id rather spend time as a user searching and seeing what actually comes up and learning what to look for and whats a good bet or not for ranking..
 
Screenshot_20200616-215814__01.jpg Well I messed up... I added the screenshot from search console and it seems in my linkbuilding campaigns I messed up somewhere haha.

I probably have to export those domains and add them to disavow list. Anything else I need to do ? This almost 21k backlinks to just 1 page.. most porn for some shitty reason. Fudge
 
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I would say if your website is new you should focus on low competitive keywords to rank. Keyword research is very important.
 
No exact time, it can take 1 month or more than that. Do keyword research and build links, this can help to improve gradually.
 
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