Google update again?!

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  1. tnaya

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    Yeah, from what I've been reading this update is based on their EAT metric. And yet I see pure affiliate sites with low quality content and no indication of any expertise, authority and trust mentioned anywhere on their sites ranking on page 1 for my KW.
     
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    Must-read, just posted by Glenn Gabe. (still a newb and can't post links.) It's on GSQI blog.
     
  4. HammerDown

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    I'm seeing shitty eBay and Amazon product results for health keywords. That's quality???
     
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    All my projects are falling down after this update (from page 2 to page 4/5/6/7/8).
    Stupid spammy sites with 2 pages are ranking now in 2nd page.
    The most crazy thing is that my tumblr porfile (with 4 articles) ranks better than my money site.
     
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    Yes it will take some time to roll out completely.
     
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    All I see from the results are from authority sites, like .gov, uni, and org, with boring article because too sciency
     
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  10. mtj85

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    So if this update is now about who writes the content and what are their competences - what prevents me from googling for "best doctors in usa" :-D and use their credentials on my "about us" page and state that they review the content regularly.
    What I'm getting at here is that this can be manipulated as well and I doubt that it can be that easy, so for sites not having authorship and not having a presentation page of who the authors are this can't have that much of an effect, can it? I still believe the update was about links, particularly in the YMYL niches.
     
  11. Gary Carlyle

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    I think E-A-T is part of it. IE, external authority factors such as the reputation of the author. Although people are saying their drops are mostly in secondary keywords. Same happened to me. I think mostly this is basically the long content update. Almost like an on-page in-body over-optimisation or keywords but actually more like when you were ranking for things just because you stuck the keyword on your page and in anchor texts for the sake of ranking. If that was you and you have lost secondary keywords then that was likely why.

    Google has started to detect that more. You won't get bonus rankings just for mentioning the same thing over and over now on the page and in headings and mages or even if you mention them once in-context. That is not enough to rank for them now. They are being ignored more.

    I have lost 500 top rankings for my homepage. I still rank for the main EMD and a few related keywords but I lost 50 positions in the top 5 about 20 at #1 and hundreds in top #100. 90% of my keywords and traffic.

    If you want to get those keywords again you will need content relating to them properly and also external factors such as decent backlinks that suggest you deserve them.
     
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    I've had the exact opposite situation. Lost main kw's and still getting some long tail traffic. Overall lost 50% of visitors.
     
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    My case exactly. I've already pointed out that it seems strange to me that my "2 word" keyword lost ranking, but it's long tail variant with "4 words" didn't loose any traffic. By EAT rationale (having low expertise and authority) I could be giving bad advice for 2 word keyword just the same as I would for 4 word keyword, so where is the catch here? EAT might be a factor, but it certainly isn't a heavy one.
     
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    I'm the opposite. I run a health website, I have some credentials and E-A-T but I'm not a doctor. I've lost a lot of long tail keywords.
     
  15. Gary Carlyle

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    If you are losing rank for your main keywords and long-tails are fine then you either have over optimisation for the main ones or not enough relevancy. Repeating keywords doesnt seem to count anymore.
     
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    So you've lost ranking on long tails and maintained ranking on main keywords?

    I am not stuffing keywords, I let the articles flow naturally.

    What do you mean by relevancy? It's a health site, how much more relevant can it be? Should I create an EMD site for each of my keywords to make it look relevant? Do elaborate.
     
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    I lost my ranks too. I was sitting on #70
    Added some web 2.0 links but only 11 of 40 pages are indexed.
    You think i will come back again or game over? I invested much money on this site
     
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    I am not sure what is happening to you guys but I see my biggest competitors lost their ranking, instead I get on top 1 for 2 KW and in top 3 for 4 keywords.
    There is a huge increase in my affiliate sales as well as a 20% increase in traffic.
    I am not sure what kind of update is this, but it seems like Google is bumping up the articles with informative contents.
     
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    This gotta be the worst update I've seen from Google so far. Not only because I lost a ton of ranking (and money) - but also user experience.

    I mainly work with .se (Sweden) and the same can be seen here as with .com.

    The ones ranking at the top either have
    - A small, outdated and crappy article
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    - A massive amount of bought links

    The rest of us, with high quality content and a small or lesser amount of links got shot to the ground.

    The big winner seem to be old domains and if they have a lot of bought links it's a big bonus
    The big loser seem to be high quality and optimized articles on domains under 3 years old.

    I realize now that writing your own content is a huge risk, compared to buying articles. The amount of work put into writing articles and then suddenly being blown off the face of the earth feels a bit wasted. Even if it made me some money before Google made me bend over. I rather lose money than time.
     
  20. Alexander Sklepas

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    Hello, from what i am reading on searchengineland the update did finish the roll out on 8th of August.