From 5.5 MILLION traffic/mo to ZERO

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Lol I wish, the domain in question was maybe doing 100k - 200k visitor per day.


I must specify though : my site wasn't Q/A site like everyone now is trying to make.

It was fully cloaked, completely bullshit markov generation with keywords that were made up. Another end of the stick technically, but it all comes down to manipulating google with content generation.
It's nice to see that there are more people ranking markov content. Is it pure markov without any modern tweaks or pseudo-markov tho?
 

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It's nice to see that there are more people ranking markov content. Is it pure markov without any modern tweaks or pseudo-markov tho?
This was pure markov without modern tweaks. Each page complete gibberish with 200-1000 internal links.
I usually interlinked between 100 and 300 domains in each batch. This method was just about publishing as much volume as possible

I think you need to talk with paste tense though, we USED to rank with markov content :p Over the past years I've seen google completely decimate this method (and my income).

There is a crusade coming against content generation from google.... Only the best Q&A type sites are going to survive...



No no, I was talking about your case, not that domain in the screenshot.

For example, for the 3 million UV/day you were getting, how much did semrush report you get? I'm curious how accurate they are when they approximate the monthly volume.
Made a better screenshot for you, can probably make your own conclusions from that : (4feb was the best day)

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Over the past years I've seen google completely decimate this method (and my income).
That's why I mentioned pseudo-markov. There are few people still going strong with it, I guess @itz_styx is one of them.
There are also few methods of gibberish text generation that works fine till now, but I won't disclose them over BHW for obvious reasons. Markov isn't that far from them tho.
There is a crusade coming against content generation from google.... Only the best Q&A type sites are going to survive...
But I guess only for biggest players that target US traffic especially ;)
 

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Good to see @itz_styx is still going strong, know him from long ago on another secret forum :p
I actually made some of my first splogging money with argo hehe, ill take a look at what kind of markov he is using.
That's why I mentioned pseudo-markov. There are few people still going strong with it, I guess @itz_styx is one of them.

But I guess only for biggest players that target US traffic especially ;)

My traffic was all non-US. The algo is coming after everyone my friend :D better prepare
 

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hey i think i remember, was it like +10 years ago the other place you mean ? ;)
nice to see you still around!

oh and it still works even with full markov, just depends how its done and what cloaker you use hehe
 

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Since this guy had google ads in that site, does anyone know if google bans your adsense account for doing scraped sites like these?

Also, for the pros watching this thread, do you keep your whitehat and blackhat projects in separate adsense accounts?
 

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Well if you compare between listbdnet vs askinglot/everythingwhat.. both are completely different concept.

Askinglot act similar to Google snippets.
While listbdnet completely copy spins and published
 

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Well if you compare between listbdnet vs askinglot/everythingwhat.. both are completely different concept.

Askinglot act similar to Google snippets.
While listbdnet completely copy spins and published
None of them spin, there's no difference in content. The layout? Sure, different designs, but content is the same, or gathered in the same way.

The difference is a lot of the questions from askinglot have 2+ years since they were posted, and quite different than the answers you would get today.
 

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None of them spin, there's no difference in content. The layout? Sure, different designs, but content is the same, or gathered in the same way.

The difference is a lot of the questions from askinglot have 2+ years since they were posted, and quite different than the answers you would get today.
Do you have this kind of script?

I need it so bad for non english niche.
 

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This was pure markov without modern tweaks. Each page complete gibberish with 200-1000 internal links.
I usually interlinked between 100 and 300 domains in each batch. This method was just about publishing as much volume as possible
If you don't mind, can you elaborate on this interlinking between domains? How aggressive was this inter-linking? Did each domain link to all of the others, or did you have some link wheel?

Were these homepage only links, or did you automate internal links to internal pages on other domains? Did you have some automated process to vary the anchor text?

Were the domains on different IPs/servers/class C's?
 

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I had quite a few paa websites, not as large in traffic as this, two weeks ago they all got manual penalty for thin content. All of those sites had one thing in common - it started to get good traffic (almost doubling every day) and then poof - manual penalty.

Those websites got penalty on bing too(a lot faster then on google)

I think my main mistake was that I was posting to aggressively.
 

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If you don't mind, can you elaborate on this interlinking between domains? How aggressive was this inter-linking? Did each domain link to all of the others, or did you have some link wheel?

Were these homepage only links, or did you automate internal links to internal pages on other domains? Did you have some automated process to vary the anchor text?

Were the domains on different IPs/servers/class C's?
super agressive, every domain linked to every domain. About 5% of the links on each page was an external link.
each page had interlinks, no kind of structure whatsoever.

Domains were hosted on different cloudflare accounts
 

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I had quite a few paa websites, not as large in traffic as this, two weeks ago they all got manual penalty for thin content. All of those sites had one thing in common - it started to get good traffic (almost doubling every day) and then poof - manual penalty.

Those websites got penalty on bing too(a lot faster then on google)

I think my main mistake was that I was posting to aggressively.
How many articles you posted a day? I'm seeing sites more than 5K a day and still doing fine.
 

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super agressive, every domain linked to every domain. About 5% of the links on each page was an external link.
each page had interlinks, no kind of structure whatsoever.

Domains were hosted on different cloudflare accounts
Thank you very much for the information :) So I'm assuming you had a script to work with the Cloudflare API to automate the creation of a new account with a new IP for each domain? Is that how you were able to be so aggressive with the interlinking?
 

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Thank you very much for the information :) So I'm assuming you had a script to work with the Cloudflare API to automate the creation of a new account with a new IP for each domain? Is that how you were able to be so aggressive with the interlinking?
Yes, we had our own solution that could connect to about 5 different registrars and register domains

Each domain was automatically added to a different cloudflare account after registration.
 

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Do you think some of these websites are using this software? I wonder if it's scalable.


Seems like it has a bulk feature:

 
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