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You scare me, winatnorisk. Seems like singularity already produced a bored chatbot backed by Ptolemy´s Great Alexandria library...
 
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kaudo said:
You scare me, winatnorisk. Seems like singularity already produced a bored chatbot backed by Ptolemy´s Great Alexandria library...
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The Christian fanatics burnt that library to the ground 1,800 years ago. It's going to happen anyway, and almost no SEO people have a good math education anyway.
 
winatnorisk said:
Have not tried it yet, but studied Googlebot patent license, was a physics major with vector calculus up the yin-yang in undergraduate and graduate school, used Web Position Gold, SEMRush, and WebSEO (for white hat) and search engine "altruism" means multi-tier should always rank you higher, with cross-linking for extra insurance if middle tiers remove forward link, as they still rank higher and forward links to higher Pagerank sites (authority URL's) are the only forward links that get a higher score. The general psychology, whether DA or MT link building, is to give administrators a reason to retain links, never remove them, and accept more, especially a multi-tier paid affiliate incentive. Many employers right now are not paying their employees and prevail in court. Ebay is putting their employees in homeless shelters. If a multi-tier seller does not pay their bills, forward links are removed, and seller falls off the top of a pyramid. Dante is my middle name. Thank you.
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please put down the pipe when you are typing in BHW.
 
Very interesting. For some [me for example] this is out of my pay grade...covid messed my income up big time.
 
ozzie5 said:
Very interesting. For some [me for example] this is out of my pay grade...covid messed my income up big time.
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Same here. But COVID-19 means more people are forced to live at home and use Internet, both as customers and producers. So the future's market says, as it must get worse before it gets better, there is a way to start a labor guild and team up with cheaper-per-unit software when bought and shared in bulk.
 
You remind me very much of a Russian guy on here that had some very interesting findings on the topic.

I’ll try my best to find the post but I believe you may find great enjoyment in reading through his work :D

Edit - https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/secret-pagerank.1200109/

It may be hard to decipher with the broken translation but there’s some pretty interesting stuff in there, definitely worth taking a look.
 
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Azaan said:
You remind me very much of a Russian guy on here that had some very interesting findings on the topic.

I’ll try my best to find the post but I believe you may find great enjoyment in reading through his work :D

Edit - https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/secret-pagerank.1200109/

It may be hard to decipher with the broken translation but there’s some pretty interesting stuff in there, definitely worth taking a look.
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There is link text relevance, and then page-to-page relevance. Some people still use spelled out URL's, not anchor text of questionable relevance, but Google admits they reward you based on keyword distribution scores in URL strings separate from link score.

The difference between this other "secret Pagerank" Tar-guy and myself is to get rid of the secrets where margin of error saturates to something very small and stays that way, where people of lesser means benefit more than those who are grandfathered, spoiled, and creating dependencies and undeserved stickiness with their content. Call it LLE (Link Life Expectancy), my hysteresis analysis, where a two-way link relationship is dissected, is important. Stress in the vertical direction causes strain in the horizontal direction, deformation, and breaking. Horizontal strain means acceptor must satisfy other surfers with good content, but do take horizontal bonds (link sites side by side in the same tier) very seriously to increase Pagerank and LLE at the same time.

The acceptor, which becomes more robotic over time, not just the donor, still wants more targeted traffic, and if it's not targeted, it is a waste, as you spend more time on administrating, and more money on bandwidth. If you forget about money, mutualism in link popularity farms, where you do what Inktomi did, just get rid of link swapping, but agree as a group to a circle, not a chain or pyramid, the circle disproportionately benefits compared to those optimized for the keyword not in the circle, and Google will lack the horsepower to punish Inktomi circles. Too many laymen developers demonize pyramids because of press against MLM's, Ponzi schemes, etc., so a revised Inktomi wheel with horizontal bonding or "barrels" might be the answer.

The equation:

Ax + By + Cz + ... Nm = Constant

is used in algebra for interpolation scores, call it here Google formula cracking. Two equations and two unknowns, you do substitutions, after that, it is best to calculate the determinant of a matrix. So "A" is just some man-made scalar for rewarding, say, frequency, "B" prominence, and so on, where different scores for value of back links and forward links, possibly even a scalar to reward or punish multi-tiers, are all possible and probable. Bing, like every other search engine, owns the Googlebot license, and I believe they deprecate the value of back links for more white hat organic incentive.

Stay tuned as I will write here later on how to come up with a better Pagerank cracker and capitalize against the greedy and uniformed who will not take good advice.
 
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I am sorry that I can't seem to understand what you are sharing here.

Would you clarify which one I understand is correct?

A. Do not use software to build tier 1 links to money site; but try to manually create backlinks?

B. Create tier 1 links to money site by software is ok; but need to post to these tier 1 sites regularly?

C. Create tier 1 links to money site by software is ok; but need to post to these tier 1 sites regularly, plus the article on tier 1 properties should include a random competitor's link?

D. Create tier 1 links to money site by software is ok; but need to post to these tier 1 sites regularly, plus build multiple tier 1 properties linking to the money site and other linking tier 1 properties.

Please don't laugh if I completely messed up what you are trying to say, or understood it in completely wrong direction.
 
winatnorisk said:
Same here. But COVID-19 means more people are forced to live at home and use Internet, both as customers and producers. So the future's market says, as it must get worse before it gets better, there is a way to start a labor guild and team up with cheaper-per-unit software when bought and shared in bulk.
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When I said "messed up my income" I mean - zero income. Living on the goodwill of others right now; internet access bought little bits at a time etc...
 
Simple awesome man, as sergey in the secret-pagerank.... You bring more algebra focused point of view , an enginiering mind to the SEO´s table.

I am sure here all the smart asses without realizing would crack some enginiering formulas .
 
Startrick said:
Simple awesome man, as sergey in the secret-pagerank.... You bring more algebra focused point of view , an engineering mind to the SEO´s table.

I am sure here all the smart asses without realizing would crack some engineering formulas .
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Thank you. Eigenvector algebra is not that hard, happy to help. With more horsepower of servers in the future to break things up and combine concepts into and from smaller increments (calculus, based on idealized equations of "slightly greater then zero" piece-analysis), I will show you how to use vector calculus to build hypocycloids (or "turbines"), more efficient, longer lasting, and stronger than pyramids. Kind of like a bump for an ocean wave. Fourier is also important to predict upward trendiness of the anchor-text in your back links, and use the timing of the ocean for wave-time analysis, the forces, energy, and how irregular becomes more regular with fractals, metaNURBS, etc., better image searching, better memory compression now highly necessary with too many bottlenecks in bandwidth limitations, especially with all the COVID-19 nuttiness. Use WordTracker. I wrote a Python script that would grab source code from Google Trends, Google changed all the words to images the next day (2018). In 2004, I invented word mergers (3 columns) for Adwords for a firm in LA, long-tail keywords in much higher volume and faster, cheaper, more targeted, Google got rid of spreadsheets the next day.

Because of General Relativity and Quantum Mechanics, nothing is Euclidian.
 
BassTrackerBoats said:
Are there any case studies tied to the content being shared as to sites ranking that you or someone associated with you have done @winatnorisk?
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John Leger, Prosperative and TheBestSpinner. Everything is a "spin", even when you go from word mergers, synonym and word group spins, and to what is loosely called "article writing". When you write a book report, you read the book, then references, say, Wikipedia, Cliff Notes, Master Plots, etc., but you as an individual have your own "unique" interpretation, writing patterns, philosophy, etc., but words are finite and your writing philosophy becomes more predictable over time.

That's why article scraping with pattern matching, especially if you address all the pages of the blog you want to post to, is so critical. Nothing is random (forget about Quantum Mechanics, and the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principles, that is for sub-atomic particles. In the macro, they are negligible). Strength in numbers with article sharing (call it "ideas sharing" for now) is essential, as Leger will not volunteer information. That's why you all need to lobby Damen Diamond for a private, paid forum, so we don't "work ourselves out of a job".
 
winatnorisk said:
John Leger, Prosperative and TheBestSpinner. Everything is a "spin", even when you go from word mergers, synonym and word group spins, and to what is loosely called "article writing". When you write a book report, you read the boat, then references, say, wikipedia, cliff notes, master plots, etc., but you as an individual have your own "unique" interpretation, writing patterns, philosophy, etc., but words are finite and your writing philosophy becomes more predictable over time.

That's why article scraping with pattern matching, especially if you address all the pages of the blog you want to post to, is so critical. Nothing is random (forget about Quantum Mechanics, and the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principles, that is for sub-atomic particles. In the macro, they are negligible). Strength in numbers with article sharing (call it ideas sharing for now) is essential, as Leger will not volunteer information. That's why you all need to lobby Damen Diamond for a private, paid forum, so we don't "work ourselves out of a job".
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I know Jon and he is even on my mailing list.

I'm interested in actual site rankings with real sites though as opposed to just the theory. I don't doubt the theory but has it been put into practice and what kind of effects in the search engines have we seen?
 
winatnorisk said:
That's why article scraping with pattern matching, especially if you address all the pages of the blog you want to post to, is so critical.
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But neither scraping nor spinning will create anything new. I do it too, I will not lie. But Im know that no matter how good you can scrape with close patterns, spin and whatever, you are still just regurgitatting someone elses thoughts and words.
 
Tbh it could work, but would need proper testing to check if its even worth the work over normall pbn/linking
 
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