wokaka
Senior Member
- Apr 1, 2010
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I think there's no secret longterm performer. You can either try to make "high quality" website that earn shit from adsense and similar ads (this is long term, however, the more people like your content, less likely they will click your ads)
or...try to sell your own service/product hiddenly from your "high quality" website such as list building (because if you offer it blatantly, it wont be good for SEO)
or, try to adapt with the most up-to-date blackhat techniques. Your sites might jump at times but that's the way it is
or...try to sell your own service/product hiddenly from your "high quality" website such as list building (because if you offer it blatantly, it wont be good for SEO)
or, try to adapt with the most up-to-date blackhat techniques. Your sites might jump at times but that's the way it is
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Thank u for the great post , it is great to see that there are real seo professionals out there.
if i understand corectly you loaded seversal dozends html pages like this one
<html>
<head>
</head>
<body>
<samp>GlobalyUniqueSecretKeywordThatOnlyExistsInMyExperiment</samp>
</body>
</html>
and then one like this one
<html>
<head>
</head>
<body>
<h1>GlobalyUniqueSecretKeywordThatOnlyExistsInMyExperiment</h1>
</body>
</html>
and so on.
and tracked the serp for the query GlobalyUniqueSecretKeywordThatOnlyExistsInMyExperiment.
if so, then what do you mean by "linking to relevant pages"?
if i understand corectly you loaded seversal dozends html pages like this one
<html>
<head>
</head>
<body>
<samp>GlobalyUniqueSecretKeywordThatOnlyExistsInMyExperiment</samp>
</body>
</html>
and then one like this one
<html>
<head>
</head>
<body>
<h1>GlobalyUniqueSecretKeywordThatOnlyExistsInMyExperiment</h1>
</body>
</html>
and so on.
and tracked the serp for the query GlobalyUniqueSecretKeywordThatOnlyExistsInMyExperiment.
if so, then what do you mean by "linking to relevant pages"?
GoogleAlchemist
Regular Member
- Nov 25, 2009
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Genuine thanks for the details, but can someone do an 80/20 breakdown in english for me/us?
ibmethatswhoib
Elite Member
- Feb 17, 2011
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agreed, I would love an update from the OP with all this google crazyness going on.
- Oct 9, 2009
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Androx, I'm thinking to use your code and place it on several domains,
then to have one scraper that daily check all of them and follow changes in google ranking for tags...and store it somehow...that is part one.
And, part two:
to set small auto blog network on 5 domains...all wp blogs with different auto content generation and to dynamically change HTML source based on main SEO lab results that are generate with part one.
So, if one day part one report that "stong" is going up and outranking "h3",
part two should replace all "h3" with "strong".
I would skip title,description,keywords and inurl test. I mean all pages will have KW in these tags but all the rest will be tested.
Let me know if anybody is interested to set this project together.
It will go faster if we have more sites and more people to work on coding.
then to have one scraper that daily check all of them and follow changes in google ranking for tags...and store it somehow...that is part one.
And, part two:
to set small auto blog network on 5 domains...all wp blogs with different auto content generation and to dynamically change HTML source based on main SEO lab results that are generate with part one.
So, if one day part one report that "stong" is going up and outranking "h3",
part two should replace all "h3" with "strong".
I would skip title,description,keywords and inurl test. I mean all pages will have KW in these tags but all the rest will be tested.
Let me know if anybody is interested to set this project together.
It will go faster if we have more sites and more people to work on coding.
ipopbb
Power Member
- Feb 24, 2008
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This thread is very old. Google Caffeine made this kind of tracking very impractical. Instead of Google changing once or twice a month Google now changes daily if not hourly. The only take aways from this whole thread can be reduced down to:
a. title tag has hard coded importance... no big surprise.
b. H1 does not have hard coded importance.
c. Keywords in HTML comments can rank a page for those words.
d. Outbound Linking to pages that use your target keywords is beneficial.
e. This data is very old and shouldn't be trusted anymore.
And the value of this info is greatly reduced since Google Panda. Content factors aren't weighted as high as they were 6-9 months ago. It seems to me that you need to have about PR5 in higher competition niches before content tuning becomes a meaningful lever... You still need content tuning for search term context, but in terms of manipulating the rankings it not as easy at it used to be.
a. title tag has hard coded importance... no big surprise.
b. H1 does not have hard coded importance.
c. Keywords in HTML comments can rank a page for those words.
d. Outbound Linking to pages that use your target keywords is beneficial.
e. This data is very old and shouldn't be trusted anymore.
And the value of this info is greatly reduced since Google Panda. Content factors aren't weighted as high as they were 6-9 months ago. It seems to me that you need to have about PR5 in higher competition niches before content tuning becomes a meaningful lever... You still need content tuning for search term context, but in terms of manipulating the rankings it not as easy at it used to be.
Barcelona19
Newbie
- Dec 5, 2010
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Link to relevant websites meaning outbound or inbound?
ipopbb
Power Member
- Feb 24, 2008
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MyPage.html has
<a href="http://wikipedia-page-about-my-topic">23424</a>
even though the link on MyPage.html and MyPage as a whole may not even mention the target keyword MyPage.html can appear in the SERPs for the word because I link to pages that use the word. It isn't a strong influencer, but when the index page from my tag tests started ranking in the middle of the list and it only contained links that use numbers... no alpha words... well... lets just say it was a glimpse at something that probably isn't meant to be seen.
RyanCassidy
Newbie
- Jul 2, 2011
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- 1
This is very interesting. Will have to read it over a few times. Good for reference.
roibert
Regular Member
- Mar 21, 2011
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A In depth Description:
Rank/Placement
01 title: Defines the title of a page. You must have a title element to produce a valid document and it must be placed within the head element.
02 samp: Sample. Defines sample output, from a computer program for example.
03 acronym: Defines an element that is made up of the first letters of the words of a phrase such as ?CSS?. The title attribute is generally used to specify the whole word or phrase that the abbreviation is referring to. An acronym is also an abbreviation, but an abbreviation is not necessarily an acronym.
04 linking to relevant pages: ?link from your webpage to someone else?s webpage on the subject? AND yes that means you can rank for a keyword without using it in your source , but it is often difficult to be competitive. Linking to other pages that rank for the terms you are tuning for is VERY strong in google?s equation right now.
05 a.href: Anchor. Primarily used as a hypertext link. The link can be to another page, a part of a page or any other location on the web.
06 p: A new Paragraph.
07 pre: Preformatted text. Text where the whitespace (that is normally discarded by other elements) is as much a part of the content as the rest of the text. Commonly used to display computer code because it maintains nesting indentations.
08 inside a textarea: A multi-row text area form element. The initial value of the text area can be placed in between the opening and closing tags.
09 kbd: Keyboard. Used to define text that should be typed in by the user.
10 caption: Defines a caption for a table. It must appear straight after the opening table tag and used only once.
11 small: b (bold), i (italic), tt (teletype), sub (subscript), sup (superscript), big, small and hr (horizontal rule) are all presentational tags. As such, their use should be avoided and CSS used instead.
12 code: Defines code (such as computer code).
13 strong: Strong emphasis.
14 sub
15 u: Underlying any text.
16 center: centering your text or images.
17 cite: Defines an in-line citation or reference to another source.
18 big
19 font: Any type of font.
20 bdo: Bi-directional text. Defines an element that has different directional content. This is usually used with languages that are read in a different direction to the default language. For example, if Hebrew were used in an English document, it would need to be defined as being read from right-to-left.
21 em
22 legend: Defines a caption for a fieldset. The element must appear directly after the opening fieldset tag.
23 button
24 table > thead > tr > td
25 abbr: Defines an element that is a shortened word or phrase, such as ?HTML?. The title attribute is generally used to specify the whole word or phrase that the abbreviation is referring to. An acronym is also an abbreviation, but an abbreviation is not necessarily an acronym. Note: The abbr tag is not recognised in Internet Explorer.
26 address: Defines contact information, such as an address or a signature.
27 blockquote: A large quotation. The content of a blockquote element must include block-level elements such as headings, lists, paragraphs or div?s.
28 caption
29 div
30 span: Used to group in-line HTML. span applies no meaning and is commonly used solely to apply CSS.
31 del: Deletion. Used to define an editorial deletion of content. Often used along with ins.
32 ul > li
33 strike
34 ins: Insertion. Used to define an editorial insertion of content. Often used along with del.
35 sup
36 dfn: Definition term. The title attribute is often used to describe the definition.
37 body: The main body of an HTML document where all of the content is placed. You must use this element and it should be used just once. It must start immediately after the closing head tag and end directly before the closing html tag.
38 tt
39 table > tr > td
40 dt: Definition term. Used in conjunction with dl to define a definition list and dd, to define the description linked with the term.
41 h1
42 i this is an ?i? example. which is similar to em.
43 s
44 h3
45 a
46 img.alt
47 select > option
48 object > param.name
49 object > param.value
50 input.value
51 (meta:keywords).content
52 (meta:description).content
53 (meta:author).content
54 URL
55 b: Similar to ?strong? here is an example
56 HTML comments
Rank/Placement
01 title: Defines the title of a page. You must have a title element to produce a valid document and it must be placed within the head element.
02 samp: Sample. Defines sample output, from a computer program for example.
03 acronym: Defines an element that is made up of the first letters of the words of a phrase such as ?CSS?. The title attribute is generally used to specify the whole word or phrase that the abbreviation is referring to. An acronym is also an abbreviation, but an abbreviation is not necessarily an acronym.
04 linking to relevant pages: ?link from your webpage to someone else?s webpage on the subject? AND yes that means you can rank for a keyword without using it in your source , but it is often difficult to be competitive. Linking to other pages that rank for the terms you are tuning for is VERY strong in google?s equation right now.
05 a.href: Anchor. Primarily used as a hypertext link. The link can be to another page, a part of a page or any other location on the web.
06 p: A new Paragraph.
07 pre: Preformatted text. Text where the whitespace (that is normally discarded by other elements) is as much a part of the content as the rest of the text. Commonly used to display computer code because it maintains nesting indentations.
08 inside a textarea: A multi-row text area form element. The initial value of the text area can be placed in between the opening and closing tags.
09 kbd: Keyboard. Used to define text that should be typed in by the user.
10 caption: Defines a caption for a table. It must appear straight after the opening table tag and used only once.
11 small: b (bold), i (italic), tt (teletype), sub (subscript), sup (superscript), big, small and hr (horizontal rule) are all presentational tags. As such, their use should be avoided and CSS used instead.
12 code: Defines code (such as computer code).
13 strong: Strong emphasis.
14 sub
15 u: Underlying any text.
16 center: centering your text or images.
17 cite: Defines an in-line citation or reference to another source.
18 big
19 font: Any type of font.
20 bdo: Bi-directional text. Defines an element that has different directional content. This is usually used with languages that are read in a different direction to the default language. For example, if Hebrew were used in an English document, it would need to be defined as being read from right-to-left.
21 em
22 legend: Defines a caption for a fieldset. The element must appear directly after the opening fieldset tag.
23 button
24 table > thead > tr > td
25 abbr: Defines an element that is a shortened word or phrase, such as ?HTML?. The title attribute is generally used to specify the whole word or phrase that the abbreviation is referring to. An acronym is also an abbreviation, but an abbreviation is not necessarily an acronym. Note: The abbr tag is not recognised in Internet Explorer.
26 address: Defines contact information, such as an address or a signature.
27 blockquote: A large quotation. The content of a blockquote element must include block-level elements such as headings, lists, paragraphs or div?s.
28 caption
29 div
30 span: Used to group in-line HTML. span applies no meaning and is commonly used solely to apply CSS.
31 del: Deletion. Used to define an editorial deletion of content. Often used along with ins.
32 ul > li
33 strike
34 ins: Insertion. Used to define an editorial insertion of content. Often used along with del.
35 sup
36 dfn: Definition term. The title attribute is often used to describe the definition.
37 body: The main body of an HTML document where all of the content is placed. You must use this element and it should be used just once. It must start immediately after the closing head tag and end directly before the closing html tag.
38 tt
39 table > tr > td
40 dt: Definition term. Used in conjunction with dl to define a definition list and dd, to define the description linked with the term.
41 h1
42 i this is an ?i? example. which is similar to em.
43 s
44 h3
45 a
46 img.alt
47 select > option
48 object > param.name
49 object > param.value
50 input.value
51 (meta:keywords).content
52 (meta:description).content
53 (meta:author).content
54 URL
55 b: Similar to ?strong? here is an example
56 HTML comments