Big changes in Google content scoring

What a fascinating thread! I'll hold my hands up and say I've been using domain name, description, H1, H2, strong and alt as the cornerstones of my on-page SEO... going to try some of these bad boys now.

Any current list of tags? ;)
 
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I'm very interested in what are the important tags now after the farmer update
 
so im guessing that the <samp> tag was used when google was trying to see if bing was pulling search results from google.
 
Awesome info.. thank you so much...
while i'm here.. I would love to see what you think of this URL ipopbb
"ocean kayaks and accessories"
thanks And im really hoping to hear from you..
but anyone is welcome to comment:cool:
 
From my experience Google new algorithm don`t like blogs anymore... I have 12 websites and 7 of them are blogs which ranked very good, mostly on 1position on high volume search keywords.... but after Google changed the algorithm my websites disappeared from all my positions.... and now i can find them on the same position but only using Google Blog search...

...i think it`s logic... all the spammy websites were blogs... so... how do you remove spam from search results? You reconsider blogs.... or... reconsider the way you index them...

test it out...
 
noiddemo said:
From my experience Google new algorithm don`t like blogs anymore... I have 12 websites and 7 of them are blogs which ranked very good, mostly on 1position on high volume search keywords.... but after Google changed the algorithm my websites disappeared from all my positions.... and now i can find them on the same position but only using Google Blog search...

...i think it`s logic... all the spammy websites were blogs... so... how do you remove spam from search results? You reconsider blogs.... or... reconsider the way you index them...

test it out...
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Being a blog or whatever format has nothing to do with what happened to you. Do some research on the 'Panda Update' and you will get a better idea.

There is nothing logical about illogical statements like 'all the spammy websites were blogs'. Google is all about getting its claws into everything it can. If a site it hits is providing garbage though, it is just not going to rank it as high as the one that doesn't. Again.. look up Panda.

MG
 
Don't take this to heart people. I know from experience that certain things on this list don't count as little or as much as the OP says they do. I've ranked #1 for HARD keywords over and over again and used the same methods each time. It's really not as complicated as this list is. ;)
 
Hi folks, my first post :)

I'm really enjoying reading this thread.

This is my take on how to implement the lab test in PHP with a cut-down list of the tags:

PHP: 
$kw = 'MyCustomWord';

$tags = array(
'pre',
'textarea',
'kbd',
'caption',
'small',
'code',
'strong',
'sub',
'u',
'center',
'cite',
'big',
'font',
'em',
'title',
'body',
'samp',
'acronym',
'span',
'del',
'strike',
'ins',
'sup',
'dfn',
'p',
'legend',
'button',
'abbr',
'address',
'blockquote',
'caption',
'div',
'tt',
'h3',
'dt',
'h1',
'i',
's',
'keywords',
'h2',
'description',
'author',
'b',
'h4',
);

//echo count($tags);

$tag = $tags[(int) $_GET['tag']];

$head = '';
$body = '';

switch ($tag) {
    case 'title':
        $head = "<$tag>$kw</$tag>";
        break;
    case 'keywords':
    case 'description':
    case 'author':
        $head = '<meta name="' . $tag . '" content="' . $kw . '" />';
        break;
    case 'body':
        $body = "$kw";
        break;
    default:
        $body = "<$tag>$kw</$tag>";
        break;
}
Followed by the HTML for the page:

Code: 
<html>
<head><?php echo $head?></head>
<body><?php echo $body?></body>
</html>
This code should generate pages when your index page has links to this page with the query string ?tag=n where n is the number of the tag you want to test.

Say you save this code as test.php then the link to the page that tests the <pre> tag would be test.php?tag=0 and I presume it's best to use MyCustomWord for the anchor text of the link?

So on your home page of the test site you could have 44 links in this example to test all these tags. But jumble the tag order up so we don't all use the same script. And add or take away some tags.

Hopefully, I interpreted this method of testing correctly :D
 
Ted,

I am now officially your fan. I bumped into this thread because it got updated and was so captivated that I went on to find and read all your other threads. It is so refreshing to see an attempt to quantify SEO in real time and to validate the results. On top of that, 10x respect for releasing this to public.

I can imagine how busy you are now with the new google update :)

When you are out of the crunch, I think this thread will give you a giggle:
http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...ks-19-days-get-cutting-edge-linkbuilding.html

Look at the "hockey" site he uses as proof of "unrelated" backlink power and look at the site's "unrelated" source code :) I found this before reading your threads, and your framework put this into a proper perspective for me.

Now, I have a short question for you, after reading your threads. Your findings may lead one to conclude that the mighty ranking power of exact match domains is determined simply by natural keyword stuffing in the code, without any special treatment of domain keywords (vs non-domain) from G. True or false?
 
adm0001 said:
Ted,

I am now officially your fan. I bumped into this thread because it got updated and was so captivated that I went on to find and read all your other threads. It is so refreshing to see an attempt to quantify SEO in real time and to validate the results. On top of that, 10x respect for releasing this to public.

I can imagine how busy you are now with the new google update :)

When you are out of the crunch, I think this thread will give you a giggle:
http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...ks-19-days-get-cutting-edge-linkbuilding.html

Look at the "hockey" site he uses as proof of "unrelated" backlink power and look at the site's "unrelated" source code :) I found this before reading your threads, and your framework put this into a proper perspective for me.

Now, I have a short question for you, after reading your threads. Your findings may lead one to conclude that the mighty ranking power of exact match domains is determined simply by natural keyword stuffing in the code, without any special treatment of domain keywords (vs non-domain) from G. True or false?
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False.
 
adm0001 said:
Now, I have a short question for you, after reading your threads. Your findings may lead one to conclude that the mighty ranking power of exact match domains is determined simply by natural keyword stuffing in the code, without any special treatment of domain keywords (vs non-domain) from G. True or false?
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False... mighty ranking power of exact match domains? Nothing mighty about them. :) That's just so 2005. Exact match is about as mighty as a UFC fighters dead body.
 
Really useful information. Thanks a lot guys for your time.
 
A few posts above I posted some code to do a lab test for detecting which HTML tags rank best. But it seems that G takes the test.php?t=0 page as the main search result and ignores the rest.

So now I am trying a search-engine-friendly style URL for the test script e.g.

xyzgh.php where the "gh" part is the identifier for the tag to be tested i.e. a combination of 2 characters that relate to the tag to be tested.

Now, in .htaccess I have this code:

Code: 
RewriteEngine On
RewriteRule ^xyz([a-z]+)[.]php$ test.php?k=$1 [L]
And my test.php script is as follows:
PHP: 
<?php
$kw = 'mykeyword';

if (!isset($_GET['k'])) die('No Key!');

$keys = array_flip( array(???) );

$tags = array(
'pre',
'textarea',
'kbd',
'caption',
'small',
'code',
'strong',
'sub',
'u',
'center',
'cite',
'big',
'font',
'em',
'title',
'body',
'samp',
'acronym',
'span',
'del',
'strike',
'ins',
'sup',
'dfn',
'p',
'legend',
'button',
'abbr',
'address',
'blockquote',
'caption',
'div',
'tt',
'h3',
'dt',
'h1',
'i',
's',
'keywords',
'h2',
'description',
'author',
'b',
'h4',
);

$tag = $tags[(int) $keys[$_GET['k']]];

//echo count($tags);

$head = '';
$body = '';

switch ($tag) {
    case 'title':
        $head = "<$tag>$kw</$tag>";
        break;
    case 'keywords':
    case 'description':
    case 'author':
        $head = '<meta name="' . $tag . '" content="' . $kw . '" />';
        break;
    case 'body':
        $body = "$kw";
        break;
    default:
        $body = "<$tag>$kw</$tag>";
        break;
}
?><html>
<head><?php echo $head?></head>
<body><?php echo $body?></body>
</html>
In the above I deleted my set of keys in the array where is says ???

Here is a script to generate your own array code:

PHP: 
<pre>
<?php
$chrs = range('a', 'z');
$chrs2 = $chrs;
foreach($chrs as $v1)
    foreach($chrs2 as $v2)
        $big[] = "$v1$v2";

shuffle($big);
for ($i = 0; $i < 44; $i++) $keys[] = $big[$i];

print_r($keys);

echo "\$keys = array(";

foreach($keys as $v) echo "$v,";

echo ");";
?>
And on your web page, you can insert links to the test pages with code like this:
PHP: 
            if ( is_home() || is_front_page() ) {
                $keys = array(???);
                shuffle($keys);
                for ($i = 0; $i < 44; $i++) echo '<a href="xyz' . $keys[$i] . '.php">mykeyword</a> ';
            }
The WordPress footer.php in my example. Replace ??? with your keys.

I don't even know if this exercise will produce results yet, and sorry if the code is getting a little scary.

I'm posting this in case anyone else is experimenting or wants to, so we can share ideas.
 
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Has anybody been able to replicate the OP's lab? And has anybody tried Androx script?
 
ipopbb said:
Primary Source is me.

I have 250 webpages that use a globally unique keyword in a different way on each page testing all HTML tags, attributes, and request entities.

I query google for my secret keyword and Google kindly sorts them for me in order of most valuable to least valuable. Then I deploy the knowledge on the $20M/year retail website I work for.

I just like giving back to the community! ;)
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YOu say 250 pages??? or domains?
 
What this interpreted correctly? I'm not even sure because I'm not sure how to use this code, is it 1 page or 4 pages?

Androx said:
A few posts above I posted some code to do a lab test for detecting which HTML tags rank best. But it seems that G takes the test.php?t=0 page as the main search result and ignores the rest.

So now I am trying a search-engine-friendly style URL for the test script e.g.

xyzgh.php where the "gh" part is the identifier for the tag to be tested i.e. a combination of 2 characters that relate to the tag to be tested.

Now, in .htaccess I have this code:

Code: 
RewriteEngine On
RewriteRule ^xyz([a-z]+)[.]php$ test.php?k=$1 [L]
And my test.php script is as follows:
PHP: 
<?php
$kw = 'mykeyword';

if (!isset($_GET['k'])) die('No Key!');

$keys = array_flip( array(???) );

$tags = array(
'pre',
'textarea',
'kbd',
'caption',
'small',
'code',
'strong',
'sub',
'u',
'center',
'cite',
'big',
'font',
'em',
'title',
'body',
'samp',
'acronym',
'span',
'del',
'strike',
'ins',
'sup',
'dfn',
'p',
'legend',
'button',
'abbr',
'address',
'blockquote',
'caption',
'div',
'tt',
'h3',
'dt',
'h1',
'i',
's',
'keywords',
'h2',
'description',
'author',
'b',
'h4',
);

$tag = $tags[(int) $keys[$_GET['k']]];

//echo count($tags);

$head = '';
$body = '';

switch ($tag) {
    case 'title':
        $head = "<$tag>$kw</$tag>";
        break;
    case 'keywords':
    case 'description':
    case 'author':
        $head = '<meta name="' . $tag . '" content="' . $kw . '" />';
        break;
    case 'body':
        $body = "$kw";
        break;
    default:
        $body = "<$tag>$kw</$tag>";
        break;
}
?><html>
<head><?php echo $head?></head>
<body><?php echo $body?></body>
</html>
In the above I deleted my set of keys in the array where is says ???

Here is a script to generate your own array code:

PHP: 
<pre>
<?php
$chrs = range('a', 'z');
$chrs2 = $chrs;
foreach($chrs as $v1)
    foreach($chrs2 as $v2)
        $big[] = "$v1$v2";

shuffle($big);
for ($i = 0; $i < 44; $i++) $keys[] = $big[$i];

print_r($keys);

echo "\$keys = array(";

foreach($keys as $v) echo "$v,";

echo ");";
?>
And on your web page, you can insert links to the test pages with code like this:
PHP: 
            if ( is_home() || is_front_page() ) {
                $keys = array(???);
                shuffle($keys);
                for ($i = 0; $i < 44; $i++) echo '<a href="xyz' . $keys[$i] . '.php">mykeyword</a> ';
            }
The WordPress footer.php in my example. Replace ??? with your keys.

I don't even know if this exercise will produce results yet, and sorry if the code is getting a little scary.

I'm posting this in case anyone else is experimenting or wants to, so we can share ideas.
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