At which point do you start to worry...

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I was apart of BHA and did get a refund because I saw that Alex wasn't really interested in continuing it on the forum side of things with no new methods or anything and him not visiting the forum for weeks. It seems interesting now that the forum has been taken down and I am saddened to see him do it again.

I almost feel like saying "Ness told ya so" but that doesn't seem to rule over reputation that people have here and that might be a bit mean...
 
Hi Val

I see you point but thats not the case.

He didn't virtually give his time for free cause he didn't give anything.

If he had followed thru then you'd be spot on, as it is he never so he just scammed people, it's that simple.

No matter what has happened to him he took the money and ran

I don't think it can be clearer than that.

oscar...

My apologizes I just try not to look at things in a negative manner. My main point is if you have to trust someone here I would prefer to trust a mod. I also understand that yes they too can be overcome with greed. That just goes without saying. I feel as if the Mods/Admin have a lot to loose by scamming someone.

Sometimes life is more than just about the money. Sometimes life is about the respect in which you earned and your reputation in general. I feel that every Mod/Admin here has at least earned that and would not risk it on a couple thousand.

Once again my apologizes. If wealthy did scam you my deepest sympathy. I just can not compute why he would scam someone when his actual reputation is worth more than a couple thousand.

Honestly I know for a fact I would never risk my reputation for such a piddly amount. That I can not comprehend. This is really driving me insane. I mean no disrespect but I can not fathom him doing this.
 
I just thought I would let everyone know that there was a post in the forum from his programmer saying "I spoke to Alex today, he was in car crash, he has just broken collar bone(lucky?) other passengers are still in critical condition.

He said he will be out of hospital on Monday."


Do you know when this post was made?...As I swore it was an old post Alex made stating he was sorry he was out but his friend was in a car crash...
 
Do you know when this post was made?...As I swore it was an old post Alex made stating he was sorry he was out but his friend was in a car crash...

It was posted yesterday afternoon by his programmer. I wasn't trying to imply whether it was factual. I was simply posting here for those who don't have access to his forum.
 
I'm interested in hearing about any progress on how Wealthy199's delivery is proceeding.
 
SineWave: Well on his Forum, on 3/4/09 (my guess is right before the site got "hacked") A post was made stating he broke his collar bone in a car accident and will be back on Monday.
The Forum was "hacked" for a few, but today it is now back up and Live so you can read the post that was made.

NightCoder: Sorry man if it seemed like I was bashing you. It's just that before the site went down I never read that and then the site was down and somewhere I could have sworn Alex made a post about a friend of his being in a car crash. I wasn't being mean about it. :)
 
I respectfully request that Admins remove Wealthy199 from Exec VIP status. This shit is inexcusable.
 
huh, come on, a few insecure guys here has a tendency to bash mods/exec vips based on a few incidents, and generalize that they are all ''untrustworthy''. If they are a mod/exec Vip, it means that they have invested more time and effort than the average user, they are more trust able, but that does not mean they are 100% angles..... they are all human, and they are all different people, don't paint every one of them with the same brush, and start bashing....

when you're deciding to do business with anyone, evaluate all factors, and ensure you're protecting yourself in every way possible. Even then, think out the worse case scenario, the probability of it happening(risk factor), and how much you stand to lose if that happens. If you can't accept that loss, don't do any business around here.

*honestly, based on a few incidents here, the risk factor is typically non-existent when you're talking about tens/hundreds of dollars with execs, but when it goes into the thousands-that's another story.(some of use don't even trust our own parents with that much)

To the OP, have you contacted paypal? Have you pleaded your case with them? Since wealthy has not been responding for so long, you have every right to do a charge back. If you paid with your CC to paypal, contact your CC company, and that would be faster and easier. PP is a prick to sellers, and if you've done things right, you should have gotten your cash back.
 
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I certainly hope that approach with Paypal works for the guys who have just forked over $2,000.

For BHA members, it really is too late. For many, many months, we gave Wealthy the benefit of the doubt, and put up with his absences and rudeness, thinking that "any day" he would come good as he promised. He made just enough promises to keep up hoping and waiting, without going to Paypal for a refund. So many people gave him glowing endorsements on this forum, that we couldn't believe he would take our money and not deliver.

But, in no way do I think that any other mod/admin/exec vip saw this coming either - those who endorsed Wealthy I'm sure did so in good faith.

I'm crossing my fingers that all of the coaching clients can get their money back through Paypal!

Ness
 
Paypal won't do shit in this matter. Only your bank or cc company will assist you, believe me.
 
seems the "car crash" wasnt too serious hes got time to build fivestarcoaching.com and hes on AIM i have heard.
 
Geez....if this really is Alex, then it's clear he's attempting to generate ongoing revenue from one coaching program after another....

Have any of the $2,000 coaching group heard anything else from him? Or received your money back????

I'm wondering if the mods/admins have an official position on this situation as yet? Seems to be getting out of hand....

Ness
 
Here is the WhoIS to that fivestarcoaching.com deal:
h**p://www.wh0is.net/wh0is_new3.cgi?d=fivestarcoaching&tld=com

According to his programmer on the site, he has been in a car accident and should be back on Monday. Well, It is 5:09 am est Monday March 8, 2009 and no word. In New Zealand, it is 10:08pm Monday March 8, 2009. No word of Alex on the forum.

Well, the IM Conquest logo he has used before (nice logo). But the Sales letter is all too similar to what he has said in the past. I am just wondering where he is pushing this site to...
 
According to whois and the matching Facebook profile - he lives in Winconsin ? and that domain is also his.
 
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What actually happened?

He met with an accident -- Oh sorry
Or he dont want to coach
or left the IM world?
or changed his mind?

Anyone have his phone number so may be, he/she can contact wealthy and talk with him to find out what the matter actually is.

I dont think, he will run away, I have talked many times with him via PM and he is very helpful.

Regards
 
First @ who ever made the "change this place's name to scammerworld".. Go fuck yourself.. you apparently haven't been online or doing business very long if you think this place has scum bags like that. Sure, there are people here who would take your money and run.. but believe me, there's a lot more of them elsewhere.

What a shitty world we live in.. where we have so many scammers in the world just to make money. I remember seeing his original thread and this is why I don't get involved in programs that cost that much money. I'm not downing the member or trying to be negative but I don't care who it is or how "trusted" a person is.. you have to protect your money.

When people start making friends in the business world instead of business partners that's when shit goes wrong. I've tried running a business with a friend once and it was utter and complete hell. Since the money's been transferred over to his bank, that's not an issue PayPal can deal with or anything they'll assist with. Perhaps there is a good reason you haven't heard from him, or maybe he just ran.. either way, you should never get into a program just because someone is a trusted member of a forum.

BHW has some of the most helpful people I've met and this is the place I would least expect to get scammed but believe me, there are people lurking here who wouldn't hesitate if they got the opportunity.. I haven't been to BHW a lot like I used to but people come on.. you're forgetting the #1 asset of the business world and that's your money.. not trusted members.. not friends.. your money, always put it first.
 
Sad sad sad. I liked wealth199, and hes a fellow kiwi. I hope he comes back and rectifies the situation.
 
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