At which point do you start to worry...

spud--1 said:

It was

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What happened to the post?

sinewave said:

What happened to the post?

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Butchered most likely. That thread seems to have been pruned of several posts. It's hard to believe that wealthy would do something like this. I only dealt with him once and it was a very small thing but he seemed like a stand-up guy to me.

It probably wont accomplish anything but I did just ask him to address this thread via messenger.

helloall said:

Its the name and you people supporting him with you
"ya know i worked with him before and he is great so pay him 2k"
Same thing with Uptownbulker and Freq

Sheep! Your All Sheep!

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Hey! I supported Uptown's thread, but only so far as the logic behind the sales copy. When people would post saying that it was cheaper to inc yourself where you were (in my case it's not) or that anyone who wanted a "shielded" identity behind a corp was a scammer (not true in my personal experience) I spoke up.

I never endorsed his incorporation service per se, since I didn't use it. However, I can certainly understand how it could be understood that I did. I did endorse his other product, and I did so because I honestly thought it was quite good.

I've endorsed DIM because I'm a member and I know it's valuable.

In any case, I hope Wealthy199 will come forward and make good with his customers. To say that I'm disappointed right now would be a massive understatement.

Well, just exactly the same bullshit he pulled with us at RealZU marketing forum...we all paid $500 each, then the guy disappears one day...

Blames it on 'us', his paying members because someone leaked something...what an asshole to do it again, yet this time it's big bucks...I wish when these jerks got banned that it would come along with a lightening strike to the face too...

Really sorry to hear about your loss...

I was part of his Realzu crap forums last summer as well. He disappeared for weeks at a time and and outsourced his "amazing" software to someone else who then did a poor job supporting it. 100% garbage. Glad I got my money back.

wargamer6 said:

I was part of his Realzu crap forums last summer as well. He disappeared for weeks at a time and and outsourced his "amazing" software to someone else who then did a poor job supporting it. 100% garbage. Glad I got my money back.

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Wealthy was a moderator here last summer. How is it that these issues never came up in his last BST thread?

sinewave said:

Wealthy was a moderator here last summer. How is it that these issues never came up in his last BST thread?

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IIRC it was deleted before the problems started.

i feel like this is deja vu....

you know, it's too bad bhw doesn't offer an escrow service. i mean, i know it would be a g*d d*mn pain and all, but i'm getting really sick of people ripping members off...

wargamer6 said:

IIRC it was deleted before the problems started.

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Which IRC channel?

sinewave said:

Which IRC channel?

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IIRC means If I recall correctly.

wargamer6 said:

IIRC means If I recall correctly.

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Oh duh! Sorry, I misread your post. thanks.

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What happened to the post?

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The sales thread that was posted did have a few people that complained about a previous coaching program where wealthy allegedly disappeared on them without delivering what was promised. They were offered a discount on this coaching program in that thread but were not happy with this proposition.

In the end wealthy got pissed off and closed the sales to that program. Shortly afterwards the thread disappeared.

tonlilaz said:

i feel like this is deja vu....

you know, it's too bad bhw doesn't offer an escrow service. i mean, i know it would be a g*d d*mn pain and all, but i'm getting really sick of people ripping members off...

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That would be an even bigger possible scam that could be pulled off. Who can ya trust these days

oh shit..

i actually liked wealthy..

damn.

well, it seems like he's not banned...and he's not responded...

i hope there's an explanation...

The mods are probably checking up on this...As the individual in question was a moderator and received plenty of "he's a great guy" from other mods, vip members, and the like this really needs to be investigated.

Because of all the great remarks he received, I signed up to the PPC Training and am just astonished he hasn't said anything in 2 weeks.

I haven't spoken with Alex aka Wealthy199 in a few weeks. When I last heard from him, he sent me a PM to apologize for any crap he may have caused us or the forum, and to request to have his BST thread removed as he was not sure if he'd be returning to BHW. I'm not sure if it was because he was busy with other things, or if he felt disappointed (or mad?) that things went so badly. Either way, I don't think any of us have heard from him in 2-3 weeks. Needless to say, we (the staff) had no idea there were so many people disappointed with their purchases until it was too late.

He used to be a Moderator here, but stepped down & gave up his position due to not having enough time. I'm not sure what the entire story is, but we are definitely interested in finding out. For now, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt, as I personally think/thought he was a stand up guy and I think he deserves the chance to come here and defend himself & his name.

For those that are curious, I've undeleted the BST thread in question:

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...termind-group-opportunity-50-people-only.html

i dont want to rubbish anyones name i just want my money back, you can see the kind of comments the orginal sales thread got and why people (like me) would think its a great opportunity. I think BHW should put a ceiling amount on similar sales threads and act as an escrow and drip funds on a monthly basis so at least if it goes pear shaped we can at least get some or most of the money back. Its not as though a load of us handed money over to a guy with half a dozen posts and no BHW kudos.

I appreciate the mods looking into this, i didnt want any names to come out at least by my mouth in case it jeopardised the slim chance of me getting my money back.

I just think that he has burnt a lot of bridges doing this and from what ive seen in IM its important to network and get on with people and he hasnt done himself any favours for future IM endeavours by pullling a stunt like this.

Essential: Exactly! We all believe/believed Alex is a standup guy. But he disappeared out of nowhere and it's crazy. And, alot of us are screwed now in terms of fighting Paypal and CC companies because since we all feel/felt Alex to be a standup guy we actually waited and are waiting to here from him. Like me, I waited so long that the only way I will receive my money is if Alex returns it. Other than that I have to eat it. Now, fortunately, I had 2.5k lying around (Thanks to Nev!) to invest in his PPC training (The 12 only deal) but I know there must be others who spent the money on it or spent the 2k on this who do not have. And since we all heard great things, we have waited and waited. It's sad.

What really scares me is you have got to read the sales pitch to the 12 only 1-on-1 PPC training....then read the sales pitch on the Warrior forum...THEN, go to that thread listed on here where you can download that method posted on the Warrior forum--the CPA Strike method. It really scares you and now questions how you feel about him.

This is just sad for me because I was REALLY looking forward to learning about PPC and having 1-on-1 training. I would have paid 5k for it as I really wanted to learn...everything and everyone gave the A-Ok on Alex and so I went about it...


http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/sale/36678-bh-ppc-cpa-coaching-program-1-1-12-people.html

hxxp://www.warri0rf0rum.c0m/warri0r-special-0ffers-f0rum/52982-cpa-strike-ultimate-secret-cpa-business-m0del.html

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/member-downloads/61058-get-cpastrike-497-wso.html

bluerickshaw said:

Ok, there was a thread on here a month or so ago with coaching from a well knowed and i thought respected bhw member with its own forum and all the usual promises etc. The fee was $2k so my girlfriend and i decided to invest in this to learn some methods and go full time.

The forum started off quite well, very quiet but kinda expected that for a new forum. Tools got created but there were always issues with them, promises for updates that never came then all of a sudden the site owner and self confessed CPA guru just dissapeared. Occasionally a user will post saying he has just heard from xxxx and that he will be back online in a week or so but it just smells a bit fishy. I personally have asked for my money back (i have emails before i jioned promising money back and an email back when i asked saying yes no problem give me 5-7 days) but nothing as yet despite the majority of the forum trying to get hold of him.

Many of you will know this guy or have dealt with him in the past and he has been a very active member of BHW up until beginning of this year i think.

I paid via paypal so i dont know of the chances of getting my money back from that means.

I would appreciate some guidance here, i dont want to name names yet but its not looking promising.

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Depending on a payment processor you could have a quite a chance to get your money back. First thing that you need to know is, if this guy is from states or not. If you used Western Union to send money, you are bit out of luck. Otherwise for PayPal file a dispute, and for wire transfers just visit your friendly local law enforcer.