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Ok, there was a thread on here a month or so ago with coaching from a well knowed and i thought respected bhw member with its own forum and all the usual promises etc. The fee was $2k so my girlfriend and i decided to invest in this to learn some methods and go full time.

The forum started off quite well, very quiet but kinda expected that for a new forum. Tools got created but there were always issues with them, promises for updates that never came then all of a sudden the site owner and self confessed CPA guru just dissapeared. Occasionally a user will post saying he has just heard from xxxx and that he will be back online in a week or so but it just smells a bit fishy. I personally have asked for my money back (i have emails before i jioned promising money back and an email back when i asked saying yes no problem give me 5-7 days) but nothing as yet despite the majority of the forum trying to get hold of him.

Many of you will know this guy or have dealt with him in the past and he has been a very active member of BHW up until beginning of this year i think.

I paid via paypal so i dont know of the chances of getting my money back from that means.

I would appreciate some guidance here, i dont want to name names yet but its not looking promising.
 
Kiss your money goodbye. You sre talking about 2K each. It is over 20-30Km I think. so the cahcnce of getting money back is 0000000000.
 
Talking about Wealthy?

Was wondering what was going on with that.
 
Waiting a month for an answer / refund is like waiting 10 years in the black hat universe.
 
wow i remember that thread he was offering for 2000 dollars i wanted to sign up for his coaching to i wondered what happened with it to
 
Waiting a month for an answer / refund is like waiting 10 years in the black hat universe.
If u ever get one and the hole is too big here. My bet is you will,never see our money again. Move on and get someone else to teach u. Insist on a pay as u go plan. Not one shot upfront...
 
I think I remember that thread.. the member had a good rep if I remember correctly. Then didn't they get banned? I won't name names either until it comes out who the OP is talking about exactly because I don't know for sure if it's the same member.

Anyway I didn't buy in either but I thought it sounded good.. if not too good.

I hope you get this resolved.
 
Man i feel for ya, call paypal asap tell them the situation. Be polite and persistant. fax them over the documentation you have.
 
I remember reading his sales thread and then thinking about psychology... you have people on here offer coaching for $250 and they barely get any attention but when someone charges $2K everyone jumps on board. Guess it is like buying brand name items, if they charge more then IT MUST be better quality (even though it was made in the same sweat shop and they just slapped a different label on it).

If something sounds too good to be true...
 
I suepect that person was in fiinancial need. Then he thought this plan to get some money but can't continue. Then disappear.
 
If it is wealthy, EXACTLY the same thing happened on his last forum, I feel sorry for you man it sucks getting ripped off but it happens to us all at some point.

Try and get your money back through paypal or if you payed by cc file a chargeback then move on, there are actaully a lot of good people doing blackhat as well, they are not all scammers.
 
If it is wealthy, EXACTLY the same thing happened on his last forum, I feel sorry for you man it sucks getting ripped off but it happens to us all at some point.

Try and get your money back through paypal or if you payed by cc file a chargeback then move on, there are actaully a lot of good people doing blackhat as well, they are not all scammers.

if it happened on his last forum why wasnt this mentioned when he went to post the new sales pitch?
 
Because it was under the guise that the forum was 'compromised' and he stopped doing anything with it. I feel lucky I only got suckered outta 500 rather than 2k :( sorry dude.
 
If it is wealthy, EXACTLY the same thing happened on his last forum, I feel sorry for you man it sucks getting ripped off but it happens to us all at some point.

Looked in the Member List and saw no such user... maybe he went by a different nick? (wanted to see who his friends are, etc.)
 
Woah, wealthy was that?
O.. m.. g....
I never thought someone like him could do something like this :eek:
Something needs to be done here!
I thought we were somewhat safe from scammers, but i guess not.. =/
 
could we get a moderator to comment on why wealthys sales thread was pulled originally?
 
I too joined this coaching program on Jan. 18th. After a couple of weeks I felt that there was nothing on that forum to justify the 2K fee. Any ebooks provided I could get for free here or on many other forums. Scripts provided I could write myself so those had no value to me. Lastly there were no real methods that I saw on PPV, which is what the coaching was to be concentrating on.

Due to these reasons, on Feb 4th I asked for a refund and it was sent to me on Feb. 5th as promised. Up to that point I had no problem contacting the coach on YIM or by email with timely responses all the time. I really have no idea what has occurred from Feb. 5 onward. I can just say the the money back guarantee was honored in my case, without question.
 
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