Silent update on PBNs?

[xenoxen]

No problems from here. IMO it is all about domain/quality of text. I always try to make it interesting like if you would like to write about Facebook bot:

- 10 best tips to facebook marketing
- What you need to use facebook?
- Interview with Alan - Facebook Bot Developer

It doesn't have to top notch - just try to balance quality/quantity and always make it looks nice. 1-2-3 images, H2/H3, bold, 2-4 links, paragraphs and you can post a video if you want.

 

[askary]

i see no problem with pbn indexation, but i use only good domains with absolutely clean history(check archive, screenshots, drop history). the main problem for now is that new links dont work at all, neither exact or brand ahchors i use

 

[uesat]

No problems from here. IMO it is all about domain/quality of text. I always try to make it interesting like if you would like to write about Facebook bot:

- 10 best tips to facebook marketing
- What you need to use facebook?
- Interview with Alan - Facebook Bot Developer

It doesn't have to top notch - just try to balance quality/quantity and always make it looks nice. 1-2-3 images, H2/H3, bold, 2-4 links, paragraphs and you can post a video if you want.

Do you send tier 2 links to your PBN links?

 

[Nargil]

Do you send tier 2 links to your PBN links?

Yeh, tier 2 to your PBN domains is an amazing way how to completely screw them.

 

[uesat]

Yeh, tier 2 to your PBN domains is an amazing way how to completely screw them.

Not really. If you don't send that many links to them you'll be fine. I've done it in the past.

 

[Nargil]

Not really. If you don't send that many links to them you'll be fine. I've done it in the past.

Yeh, I had been doing GSA blasts to money sites in the past...

 

[uesat]

Yeh, I had been doing GSA blasts to money sites in the past...

Who's talking about GSA? GSA is barely Tier 3. Tier 2 for me is a link from another article not as powerful as Tier 1.

 

[Nargil]

Who's talking about GSA? GSA is barely Tier 3. Tier 2 for me is a link from another article not as powerful as Tier 1.

That was an analogy...

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/analogy

 

[ThopHayt]

To be fair back in 2011 you COULD blast the money site with GSA/SeNuke/SB (thought I never used GSA) and get good results. Times change, I miss those days. You could rank a $1,000/month keyword for $50 back then.

-ThopHayt

 

[jacker818]

Google staff here, Yes we are doing a update and going to f*ck all PBN sellers.

*scarface voice* Hayyy Man F*ck You!

 

[uesat]

That was an analogy...

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/analogy

You should read the definition. "Not sending many links" and "GSA links" is not an analogy. Your GSA links in the past does not apply to the situation.

 

[Nargil]

You should read the definition. "Not sending many links" and "GSA links" is not an analogy.

I really don't want to be offensive here, so I will just count to 10.

Analogy is:

- GSA - "It's fine. I've done it in the past."
- Your tier 2 - "It's fine. I've done it in the past."

The fact that you have done in the past, doesn't mean much in the present.

Get it now?

Also, building tier 2 links to your PBN sites is absolute tragedy. Anythinge else except social signals is a horrible technique. If any newbie reads this, please, don't build T2 to your PBN sites. Do yourself a favor.

 

[uesat]

I really don't want to be offensive here, so I will just count to 10.

Analogy is:

- GSA - "It's fine. I've done it in the past."
- Your tier 2 - "It's fine. I've done it in the past."

The fact that you have done in the past, doesn't mean much in the present.

Get it now?

Also, building tier 2 links to your PBN sites is absolute tragedy. Anythinge else except social signals is a horrible technique. If any newbie reads this, please, don't build T2 to your PBN sites. Do yourself a favor.

Count to 100. And then read everything again. Sending a non-spammy link to an article in your PBN will do nothing bad to your PBN. Nothing. Spamming it will do something bad to your PBN. Your analogy does not apply here.

Get it?

 

[Nargil]

I am out. If I want to talk to less mentally gifted, I will join some political conversation on Facebook.

 

[uesat]

I am out. If I want to talk to less mentally gifted, I will join some political conversation on Facebook.

Peace. It's obvious you lack reading comprehension skills

 

[yugejackpots]

To be fair back in 2011 you COULD blast the money site with GSA/SeNuke/SB (thought I never used GSA) and get good results. Times change, I miss those days. You could rank a $1,000/month keyword for $50 back then.

-ThopHayt

2011? In 2013 I was building 50-100k backlinks overnight and ranking top 3 on payday loans g.co.uk in 3 days. People just became pussies and quit testing it after 2011.

 

[xenoxen]

Do you send tier 2 links to your PBN links?

Nope.

Yeh, tier 2 to your PBN domains is an amazing way how to completely screw them.

Yes and no.

You both right

Nargill is a guy with balls who defend his techniques and opinions ;-)

In my opinion you do not have to build links to your PBN but if you will backlink it with another PRIVATE PBN I guess you can even better results, but are they will be better than investing in Tier1?
You have to test yourself

Build links, lower bounce rate, get authority links ( nofollow are great, don't look for nf/df mark ), get quality content, get quality images/ unique images.
Then after all it is all about competition.

YEsterday I saw a website which started ranking with 70 domains. All links from authority ( for this niche ) websites. Another website had 3,500 RD. Get authority links from the same like yours niche. Doesn't matter what anchor you use.

 

[Nargil]

Nope.

Nargill is a guy with balls who defend his techniques and opinions ;-)

In my opinion you do not have to build links to your PBN but if you will backlink it with another PRIVATE PBN I guess you can even better results, but are they will be better than investing in Tier1?
You have to test yourself

Thanks

And because of what you wrote exactly. What are high quality links? Some expensive authority stuff, or guest posts or PBN links. That's high quality. Rest may be... quality at best and I doubt that. So why spending tons of money to build tier 2 to your tier 1 links, when you can rather get better tier 1 link? Absolutely doesn't make sense.

 

[xenoxen]

Thanks

And because of what you wrote exactly. What are high quality links? Some expensive authority stuff, or guest posts or PBN links. That's high quality. Rest may be... quality at best and I doubt that. So why spending tons of money to build tier 2 to your tier 1 links, when you can rather get better tier 1 link? Absolutely doesn't make sense.

I will use an example here coz I don't like to explain that shiieeet coz we all know every website/situation is different.

If I would like to rank a nargill.com website I would get a QUALITY links from articles like :

- I've slept with Nargill. Check out the interview with Larisa, the LA escort girl
- Youtube video comment from "Nargills home - MTV cribs"
- Forum thread post with your photos when you were taking bath with your sister // even it would be nofollow I would post there "Wow super, thanks, great photos, how old is she now"

You get me ? Strong natual, niche related posts, doesn't matter nf/df and I would even use a xenoxen as an anchor. It doesn't matter at this point.

Cheers mate!

 

[Nargil]

I will use an example here coz I don't like to explain that shiieeet coz we all know every website/situation is different.

If I would like to rank a nargill.com website I would get a QUALITY links from articles like :

- I've slept with Nargill. Check out the interview with Larisa, the LA escort girl
- Youtube video comment from "Nargills home - MTV cribs"
- Forum thread post with your photos when you were taking bath with your sister // even it would be nofollow I would post there "Wow super, thanks, great photos, how old is she now"

You get me ? Strong natual, niche related posts, doesn't matter nf/df and I would even use a xenoxen as an anchor. It doesn't matter at this point.

Cheers mate!

Thanks for the laugh.

I understand you perfectly, but forum posts, YT comments and similar are not High Authority, not alone high quality links. They are a diversity anchor dillutors and that's that. Nothing else. The statement here from the I-don't-understand-advanced-language-stuff guy was to build high authority links to PBN links. What you mentioned there is... fluff. The only thing about YT being high authority is DA of 99 and that's about it. Nofollow. They might help, but I wouldn't bother wasting time and resources on that or paying VA when I can rather spend that on a stronger tier 1 domain.