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Silent update on PBNs?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by beingink, Feb 2, 2017.

  1. beingink

    beingink Senior Member

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    Anyone noticing that new domains expiring/expired are just refusing to index. Like a new age filter on re archived sites. Just wondering if its only me or somebody else experiencing this too.

    Also:
    - I know about xml trick, not working anymore for me.
    - Posting high quality content too.

    Even tests are taking way too long.
     
  2. littlewebdragon

    littlewebdragon Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    I've noticed as well that everything is moving in slow motion with G. It is working, but in slow motion. It seems that TIME is now one of the most important factors.
     
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  3. bartosimpsonio

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    Well I've been tracking a few sites valued at mid/high 6 digits and they all are fed by PBNs and rank like motherfuckers.

    So obviously Google will now go after these.

    Especially PBN sellers using Gmail and Google Docs / Drive to deliver their reports, those will be the first to get the hammer.
     
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  4. beingink

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    Brah... my question man.. Read it first maybe?
     
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  5. Shaunm

    Shaunm Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Everything definitely seems to have shown down with G recently. I am currently starting a few case studies to see how long it takes for different stratergies to kick in opposed to a domain with zero backlinks just being left to do its own thing.
     
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  6. Johnny_Tsunami

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    Eh, I've seen a little of both. I Have one that I hosted through EBN over 2 weeks ago, still waiting on index. Some are indexed same-day still.
     
  7. bartosimpsonio

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    I thought I answered it: there seems to be an algorithm change going on, going after PBNs, there are other threads complaining about these changes since a few days.
     
  8. Kelowna

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    We have had a couple pbn sites get the boot from the index over the last few days, maybe penguin on the loose in our neighborhood?
    The replacements we put up still get indexed right away, no problem there. Note: we only buy sites for our pbn's that are still in the index to ensure they are not banned, but new content gets indexed right away.

    Also just bought a fresh new domain for another project, put up content, indexed and ranking same day, so I can't agree with the slow down thing.
     
  9. intenso09

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    It started at the end of december where strange ranking changes appeared for a lot of people. Seems to be an ongoing process but nobody is sure if it is about PBNs.
     
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  10. bartosimpsonio

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    Several site brokers have traffic charts for the sites they sell. I been looking at some of those charts, lots of sites for sale are losing traffic since december and some of them mention "PBN is active on this site".
     
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  11. mbreezy

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    I read several times that Google is hitting a sort of "reset" button on expired domains.
     
  12. redarrow

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    I have read loads and pratice loads ,

    What i have seen .

    looks like it the afflicate provide popup or popunders the pbn get ban.

    The new popup and pop under anythink pop ,is getting websites ban ,was introduced december from google ...

    It also effects you haveing any popups anywere ,on your own websites , it can also get ban.

    Desktop and mobile " not just mobile like others are saying"

    Fact......
    So if you main website afflicate is using any type of popup your pbn will get ban

    All we all no for know ......

    The slowness of google is becouse of all the popup pbn getting ban ..... (( google dance))

    The new wordpress ,can sometimes knock the alt info off the image html ,but that is not the pop up or pop under problam.

    And it true ,the new algo is happening slowly ,so no one can give any more advise except what i have said above sorry....
     
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  13. ThopHayt

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    ...and everyone thought it was crazy that I've suggested mixing in a fair percentage of brand new domains in your networks. I think we all knew it was only a matter of time until Google went after this. They hit the drop list domains a while back, now the expiring are probably getting the same treatment.

    However, I posted a while back a blip about Google and domains... there was a quote saying that if the exact topic/niche of a domain changes when ownership changes Google will IGNORE all the links the domain earned prior to the new ownership. This would explain this as well.

    -ThopHayt
     
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  14. Hambone Oblivion

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    I actually had an instance where G was reporting old indexed pages from a site. I took over and kept the site in a somewhat similar niche, and saw slow index of new pages. Took 2 weeks to get some new content indexed. But since they have been indexed, the links I put up seem to carry some weight still. The site is/was expired for almost a year, then I had it for 6 months with content, changed the site to the current. Just for some back story.
     
  15. redarrow

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    What your saying about exspired domains is incorrect .

    It dont make sence ,about getting ban becouse you re register a domain .

    When a domain becomes available to be re registered, it goes thu all the test to make sure it ready to be put back on the domain register ,as available , it would be impossible ,to just scrap all un used domains , sorry that theory not right of yours.

    Places like godaddy ,the biggest domain seller on the plannet ,will not sell domains that are classed as useless , and can not be used to index a website or known to get ban...

    Sorry your thory is wrong .....
     
  16. Leith

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    We built around 100 sites this week and managed to get around 75 indexed in the first few mins. The remaining 25 are still taking a while to get indexed. If anything, things are just working slower these days and you require more patience than before.
     
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    What the thorey of afflicts using popups will get pbn ban ,is there any solid proff your way?????

    Thank you
     
  18. Jason Bradbury

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    Depends if you got the domains from Fiverr
     
  19. redarrow

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    Can you explain please , what you mean via fivver domains?

    The process of putting domains active and back online can not be done in a secret way ,so ill like to no what makes you fill ,flivver domains are infected in getting ban or penalised....

    This is the domain .tld owners
    https://www.icann.org/ I dont think that there any conspiracy where fivver can make a domain active in a state of a ban or penilised domain ...
     
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  20. Hubba

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    Regarding PoPups, I haven't seen any penalties yet. For niches I'm in I still see all page one sites that have exit pops.