Create WEB2.0 Structures Yourself - A Simple Method

Scritty, this thread is amazing. You are the shit.

Below I question your tactics from a hypothetical but educated guess kind of perspective, so don't read it the wrong way - it's a question about now and the future --

last thing LINK TO YOUR WEB2.0's. They are pretty much bulletproof, link with everything you can find. Google aren't going to ban Youtube are they? (Or Wordpress.com etc) so hammer the bejabbers out of them. Forget your sandbox rules and hit them with every link you can find.

But only link with lovely clean friendly links to your main "money" site

But I don't understand how your web2.0 sites don't just get deleted. No, G won't sandbox youtube, but they'll sure as hell take down your video or channel if you have blasted it THAT hard.

Plus, some analysis of the links on your web2.0 that you are blasting will easily turn up your money site, so G can penalize you that way.

Now, I'm saying these things not having tried this (YET!), so it's more of a question to you. If this just isn't what happens these days, then I accept that. BUT, don't you think that this is what you would do if you were a G auditor? I sure would.

- Pick out what web2.0 pages are obviously getting blasted in a way that humans obviously aren't doing it.
- Delete those web2.0 sites, but first analyse the content there and sandbox the money sites they point to

If G isn't doing this now, we all dread the day they will.

Am I missing something?
 
Observer if you go to Targethut it gives you a good list of the best sites to target. once there takes a 2 mins to find the do follow sites with seoquake

I get a big zero when I go to targethut dot com. Is this tool gone? What do people use to find do follow web2.0 properties nowadays?

Banker and video are two separate new posts or the video is included in the banker post??

Can anyone answer this?

When you are doing your speech-to text articles, do you normally have other articles or research in front of you while you are dictating?
I sometimes have trouble coming up with things to say.

Yeah that.
Tips?

I can confirm that this method WORKS.

Took me 4 weeks to get 1st page rankings for a kw w/ 260 global searches/month.

Awesome! May I ask, is there any money in a niche with that little traffic? Do you make enough now to have made it worth the time?

Here's how:

1. Create new page on website and name it to match kw.
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16. RSS your Angelas links. Bomb them with SB.

OK, I *really* appreciate the clear write-up on top of Scritty's posts, cuz, as awesome as Scritty is, the speach-to-text nature of his posts makes them only about 80% comprehendable. :(

My 2.0s occupied pages 1 - 4 of the SERPs within a week. Moneypage lurked around page 4 until on the 28th day...first page 4th spot!

This was my first time, and I think I can get results w/in 2 weeks next time. The one thing of Scritty's I ignored was bookmarking all my 2.0s and articles, so I'll post my results next time w/ those added to the method.

Question - what's the difference between what you did and what Scritty does? You blast your web2.0 articles with SB which means it's all comment spam? While Scritty uses BMD which means it's all bookmarking sites? Is that right? What am I missing?

(and are you saying you'll do both next time? this was an old post, so what were your results?)
 
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Yes, it was a niche about posting on craigslist. Nets me around $30 a week.

That's right, Scriity was bookmarking his web 2.0s and I was SB'ing them. Bookmarking=higher quality links.

Haven't done any link building for many months now...too busy! I just buy link building services now.
 
But I don't understand how your web2.0 sites don't just get deleted. No, G won't sandbox youtube, but they'll sure as hell take down your video or channel if you have blasted it THAT hard.

Remember - you are not making "trash" web2.0's you are making multi posts complete web2.0's

Full profile, altered theme (or whatever) picture, 5 posts minimum, no links in first posts. X media (post a video, post a link to an authority site in the niche that ISN'T yours but is already accepted as an authority)

I've never had a web 2.0 I made by hand taken down.
Sure it takes 90 minutes (over 2-5 days)including writing the content, to support one of your sites properly with one WEB2.0 site but so what? They last

Day 1 create site, one useful post - no self serving links
Couple of days later. Another post - maybe a link to a Youtube vid or whatever
A couple of days later the MONEY post, 400 words min, a couple of links to your site.

NukeX sites with half the profile missing, one post, and a self serving link in from day one ...well they get deleted damn quick


I make general link rings of WEB2.0.

Games
Tech
Sports
Holidays
Automotive
Media
Web and Internet

(and a couple of others) I have maybe 60+ web 2.0 sites and rarely make any more.

I add to the ones I have becasue they are now almost authorities in themselves.

So I pick up an affiliate deal selling Kindle downloads. I add 4 or 5 posts and maybe a new category to my "media" web ring. Mixing it up, not using all the nodes, maybe add a one off Squidoo lens or Hubpage (or maybe both)

Course I post a few comments, join a few forums (use scraprebox to find where to do this for best effect) and write a few articles as well.

I have livejournal and wordpress.com sites that rank page 1 on their own. Some have 100+ posts and get 20,000 uniques a month or more.

They support maybe 8 or 9 other sites.

My method is all about not making hundreds of trash link rings - but dozens of authority BIG ones you can use for many purposes.

I've even included most of rings in the list above you'd need to make over time to cover just about any affiliate deal I've ever heard of.

With some basic tools and a real push on content making all of the above is easily achievable.
Where people mess up is the content. If you aren't writing a few thousand words a day you are going to struggle. That's where the effort comes, and it's where many cut corners. These web2 hubs and articles gobble up content

It's a piece of piss to bookmark and RSS submit them after. A $99 a month sub to a Xrumer site giving you a few thousand trash links a day for the web 2.0's and articles also helps
(mix this up, join for 2-3 months - quit, go to another deal - they will have a different way of working and probably a different list...obfuscate any footprint you are leaving by shifting often)

The key is making content. Any for most starting out - that is why they fail


Scritty
 
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What would henry ford have told you if you told him your whole giving up on automation theory? Where would we be today if automated robot assembly lines didn't make cars and a buttload of other products 100 times as fast as humans? You can take your 90 minutes to create your manual post, and I'll be at the beach while my program is making 500 of them for me with the same 90 minutes of my work to tell it what to do.
 
Remember - you are not making "trash" web2.0's you are making multi posts complete web2.0's

Full profile, altered theme (or whatever) picture, 5 posts minimum, no links in first posts. X media (post a video, post a link to an authority site in the niche that ISN'T yours but is already accepted as an authority)

I've never had a web 2.0 I made by hand taken down.
Sure it takes 90 minutes (over 2-5 days)including writing the content, to support one of your sites properly with one WEB2.0 site but so what? They last

Thanks Scritty. I find this amongst the most sensible advice I've read on BHW. I think the tools that all the impatient people here are using CAN and DO make these people money, but it seems like those days are numbered, or at least those schemes are not long term. Your method is much more what Google likes anyway so it's got long term insurance against your profits.

I have livejournal and wordpress.com sites that rank page 1 on their own. Some have 100+ posts and get 20,000 uniques a month or more.

Man, isn't it hard not to monetize that? That's a gold mine as I'm sure you know.

It's a piece of piss to bookmark and RSS submit them after. A $99 a month sub to a Xrumer site giving you a few thousand trash links a day for the web 2.0's and articles also helps
(mix this up, join for 2-3 months - quit, go to another deal - they will have a different way of working and probably a different list...obfuscate any footprint you are leaving by shifting often)

I guess what I was asking about in a couple of your threads is if BLASTING these web2.0s with thousands of bookmarks, rss, whatever puts them at risk. As I said before, if I were working at G, I would seek out sites with hundreds of these low quality profile and comment spam backlinks. It shouldn't be that hard for them to do that. Then they can follow the link trail back to your money site and kill it. They can even take down your web2.0, whether or not it is an "authority" site.

I'm not saying that that's what they do now, but it seems highly feasible, no? OTOH, if they aren't doing it now, there must be some reason. Maybe they just don't have the resources to spend time on that.
 
I guess what I was asking about in a couple of your threads is if BLASTING these web2.0s with thousands of bookmarks, rss, whatever puts them at risk. As I said before, if I were working at G, I would seek out sites with hundreds of these low quality profile and comment spam backlinks. It shouldn't be that hard for them to do that. Then they can follow the link trail back to your money site and kill it. They can even take down your web2.0, whether or not it is an "authority" site.

They could do that...

But they don't.

Why?

Simple - I could just as easily - and for a few hundred bucks - point these trash links at my competitors sites rather than my own.

If it was THAT easy to destroy your competitors everyone would be doing it.

Look, I'm not saying my sites didn't get messed around in the rankings for a month or two to begin with, they did. But long term they are rock solid.

Destroying your - or anyone elses sites LONG TERM with trash links just doesn't happen. It could be abused too obviously.

Scritty
 
Do these web 2s float or do they link to each other w2?

Very few interlink.
I want each one to look autonomous.
The only realy advantage of interlinking is quick indexing these days.
THe days of the fully interlinked web wheel are over, while they have some value, they are too easily traceable.

You are more or less saying "Hey - we all know/like each other" -
Which these days triggers alarm signals google thinks.
"There's a darn good chance this is the same person self promoting"

Take your time. posts when you feel inspired, make accounts when you can. Add power.

My pholosophy is you can earn more/safer from 10-12 good well supported websites with a lot less hassle than you ever could juggling 100's of sites, some of which are in niches's that are here today/gone tomorrow.

Though mix up your hosts/affiliate schemes and payment methods.

Then if Amazon messes you about, or Google won't pay up, or one hosting comany has extended downtime or whatever...most of your virtual real estate carries on earning.


Scritty
 
They could do that...

But they don't.

Why?

Simple - I could just as easily - and for a few hundred bucks - point these trash links at my competitors sites rather than my own.

If it was THAT easy to destroy your competitors everyone would be doing it.

Look, I'm not saying my sites didn't get messed around in the rankings for a month or two to begin with, they did. But long term they are rock solid.

Destroying your - or anyone elses sites LONG TERM with trash links just doesn't happen. It could be abused too obviously.

Scritty
nice post! that really make sense... if google would deindex sites that are getting thousand of trash everybody would detroy the competitors sites... because this alone google would never do it!

another thing is if your site is new and isn't ranking high because i could imagine that google thinks that nobody would spam backling the competitors if they aren't ranked and are new so this is why there is the sandbox

but overall if your site has good ranking and the domain is a bit older i don't see anything happen

my english isn't the best sorry for that but i hope you get my point :)
 
I can confirm that this method WORKS.

Took me 4 weeks to get 1st page rankings for a kw w/ 260 global searches/month.

Here's how:

1. Create new page on website and name it to match kw.
2. Create 6 2.0 properties w/ a 400 word article. Be sure to post profile photos, and even photos in the article. Fill out name, interests, phone number, etc. like a real person would. Use dragonspeech to write your articles in half the time:

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/download-requests/59220-req-dragon-naturally-speaking.html

3. Do nothing for 3 days.
4. Create 6 YT vids w/ moneysite url.
5. On third day, post a second article of 400 words to each 2.0. Use dragonspeech to write your articles in half the time. Place one outbound link to an authority site related to your keyword. Place one outbound link to your money site.
6. BOMB your 2.0 properties w/ scrapebox.
7. Create RSS feed of your 6 2.0s w/ SB.
8. Submit your RSS feed w/ RSS Submit:

HTML:
http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/member-downloads/253644-get-rss-submit-v2-90-latest-version.html
9. Using Article Marketing Robot, create 400+ articles pointing to your 6 2.0s and your money site.
10. Create RSS feed of your articles w/ SB.
11. Submit your RSS feed w/ RSS Submit.
12. BOMB your articles w/ SB.
13. Continue to bomb your articles and 2.0s every three days w/ SB.
14. Write high quality articles on high PR article directories (ezine, articlesbase, etc.) every 3 days.
15. Buy Angelas links from this fiverr provider pointing to money site and 2.0s:

HTML:
http://www.fiverr.com/users/solo1981
16. RSS your Angelas links. Bomb them with SB.


My 2.0s occupied pages 1 - 4 of the SERPs within a week. Moneypage lurked around page 4 until on the 28th day...first page 4th spot!

This was my first time, and I think I can get results w/in 2 weeks next time. The one thing of Scritty's I ignored was bookmarking all my 2.0s and articles, so I'll post my results next time w/ those added to the method.


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Ranking is almost always based on existing competition in the serps. IF there is little competition chances are you can rank in under a month and sometimes within a weej.
With 260 GLOBAL searches (not LOCAL, which is usually MUCH lower) anyone should be able to rank a site within a month with ONLY:
A) a handful of bookmarks
B) pings
C) Daily or several articles per week for the first 4 weeks.

That's it. You don't need to go to all the hassle as shown...unless you are in a much more competitive and higher search vertical/kw.
ps- we tested this and my partner made a WSO out of this on WaFo. The gist is simply: A) have super good onpage seo B) write regular content with tight onpage seo factors C) bookmark thru any service or by hand to several sites after each post.

Super easy.
 
just suscribed to the thread, really interesting stuff worth reading.

thanks a lot
 
some post, wow, thanks
makes me wanna give up since i havent tasted the blood yet

back to work i go...
 
Wicked tutorial thanks!
 
F-ing amazing post. With a little manual web 2.0 work we can get fast and long term SERP results. All of my free time is now taken, thanks.
 
(one to my main URL and want to and in a page of my website)

I.e., "...one to an inner page..."

Heh. The sound of a Dragon Speaking Naturally. ;)

Dragons aside, great tut. It's nice to read that others feel that there's no substitute for the human in web 2.0 page creation, pain in the ass though it may be.
 
Creating Web 2.0 properties.


Okay, you asked for it, you're going to get it.


Creating Web 2.0 properties dirty and down way of doing it.


Firstly, get yourself a list of do follow Web 2.0 sites. I'm not going to give any specific URLs here, because that's bad form, but if I do say check out ?Target Hut?first, it will tell you exactly which ones are worth putting your content onto. Unfortunately it doesn't detail whether they do follow or no follow, and a couple of searches through Google should sort that out.


While we're on the subject of this, don't be afraid of the odd no follow the link. But do follow are a lot better. It's interesting that many sites change their policy on link following from time to time. If Or you are a newcomer, and have a low maintenance blog or page, many sites will automatically class all of your links as no follow.


I've noticed on sites like Squidoo and others, that link start as no follow, but if you are a good little boy, some may well become do follow in time. There's no science to it unfortunately, you'll just have to work this out for yourself, and it changes all the time.


Secondly, you're going to need content. I like to create a six spoke structure to the main URL of whatever site on promoting as my first port of call. This will have two pieces of unique written content and a video. For video, I use a site called Animoto,(free) it lets you upload your own still pictures and it turns them into a snazzy video. You can either cheat and use a product like Cam studio (free) to record what it makes, or for five dollars a month you can become a member and make some quite long and complex videos yourself. Making a video in Animoto, once you have the still pictures is a 10 minute job. You can edit out the animoto logo with Windows movie maker (free), and add your own titles if you want.


The written work I write using Dragon Naturally Speaking 10 ($30), and a decent USB microphone. The speech to text program cost about $30, and it makes that back for me every single day without fail. It is one of the best investments I've ever made.


I suggest writing completely unique content for your hubs, that means writing 12 pieces to go with your video. How long should that take? Well with speech to text it would take me about 40 minutes.


Next, comes the signing process to your Web 2.0 sites. They are all different, and some are quite awkward. Over time you will develop your favourite sites. It is best to perm about six sites from 10 or 12, so you never hitting the exact same set of sites with each link structure.


Over time, once you learn how this works, you will be prepared to make this signup process as quick and as painless as possible. Here are the things I use and how I prepare.


Firstly, I have a brand-new e-mail address is ready, not a Gmail or a Yahoo mail, as many sites reject these immediately as spam. (Yeah, Google rejected as spam oh the irony) if you have your own sites and host, it's easy enough to use your own e-mail addresses which you create.


Top tip, once a e-mail address has done its job, you can always delete it. I tend to delete any e-mail address over three months old and then can replace it with a new one.


Okay I also recommend having a form filling bot like a Robo form ,(free). The free version of this does a decent job of making form filling in quite quick, for instance I can sign up to a new WordPress.com account in about 35 seconds, that's actually quicker than SE nuke or magic submitter.


Another great tool is a programmable keyboard, ($12-$80) use the programmable function keys to put in stuff like your name or password e-mail address etc etc then just press the buttons in sequence, you can even include the tab to space down to the next item. I have a system where I always know my name is F1, my e-mail address is F2, etc etc.


Then, pop into your e-mail client and click the links to confirm the signup status with these Web 2.0 sites.


The first time you do all this, it may take you well over an hour. However, I've got to the stage now where I am here in about 10 or 12 minutes, again, that's pretty competitive even when rated alongside automated Web 2.0 is creation and submission tools.


Next, pop back into the sites you've created. Of course you have bookmarked your pages, and made a note of the URLs that you have created haven't you?


Fill in the profiles. To my mind the crappy incomplete profiles that Web 2.0 creation software makes must leave a rather large footprint for the anti spam bots to find.


No photograph, no user information, the standard background theme used every time, to me this stands out like a sore thumb. Filling in a complete profile (again with a programmable keyboard or simply cutting and pasting preprepared information) for six accounts will probably take you 12 to 15 minutes. But in the long run will save you having to remake some of those accounts when they are deleted as spam.


Okay, earlier on I mention having to written pieces of work, one is the bedrock, the other is the banker. Sorry for the crappy phrasing. The bedrock piece is about alter ego or who or whatever, doing, your interests.
I tend to make it general narrative waffle. Just speaking into the microphone about some fictional person and the sort of dumb stuff they get up to on a day-to-day basis until I have three or 400 words. That takes maybe two minutes to write. (remember to include the keyword at 2-2.5% density and any associated words at 1-1.5% density)


You post the six bedrock pieces in the six sites. Then, that's it for day one. No links. Important!
No Links!


Three days later, I logged back in and put in the ?banker? piece, and the video. The banker piece has three links in it. Two are self-serving (one to my main URL and want to and in a page of my website) and a third is to a general authority site in the field. You get away with three links as you have a multiple post piece


If you are posting to Squidoo or similar, then it's just a banker piece. You need to take a little more care over it, but you only need one piece. Put the video on at the same time, and you're done


The video must have text or a link to your main site in it. I know you Tube do not allow external linking, so make sure your main URL is prominently displayed in the video, have it up on screen for 10-12 seconds at the end of the video for people to catch it.


Okay, you've created a six spoke hub. Overall, once you are practised at this the actual account creation and posting (bearing in mind you are making multiple posts) will probably come in at about an hour may be a little more for the whole lot.


Of course, you have to create the content, but you have to create the content whether you use an automated Web 2.0 tool or not..


Here's the rub, this six spoke hub will be a complete cocking waste of time. You will not get much traffic from it at all..... until..... you power it up.


Get some links, some bookmarks, or whatever you can to get the hub noticed. Articles pointing to your hub sites,Xrumer blasts, social bookmarking, even the old favourite scrape box spamming.


Preferably do all of these things and a few more. And point them at your hub sites.


Good quality bookmarks and articles on high PR sites can point directly to your main pages,for those of you not afraid of writing a little, tools like ?build my rank? are also great to point to your main pages as well as the hub.


Getting thousands of different back links is where the real effort comes in. I made the mistake early in my Internet marketing career are falling for all the flashy lights and jingly bells of automated Web 2.0 creation software. Yes of course it has its place. But it does the easy stuff, and leaves you to do the hard stuff. A WordPress blog or a wiki page on its own will provide next to no linking juice for your site. Bookmark it and link it spam it and basically hammer it, then it will prove its worth.


I made a post yesterday about Xrumer. Saying that it has its place. And it certainly does.


As far as back links go nothing will create more faster. And contrary to popular belief, they aren't bad or poor back links, however the huge downside is the majority of them will be deleted. If you can retain 30% of them for six months you are doing quite well.


I suppose the point here is, decide whether you are technically proficient enough to host your own Xrumer setup, or just pay a service 100 bucks a month to supply you with tens of thousands of links.


Other services will also help, and sick submitter does more or less the same as Xrumer, but much slower. I have not found it unstable, but others have had problems with it. Both tools are all about profile creation really. Although the new version of Xrumer claims it will do a lot more. (That probably means it will be even more complex)


Don't underestimate the power of social bookmarking to get your good links found. When you create a Web 2.0 structure bookmarking it multiple times will get it found, it's only a temporary thing, but once it's indexed you can press on. After all, time is money.


I hope you find this post at least a little useful, there are some sites here and tools that aren't normally spoken about in the black hat forums, and remember folks when it comes to Internet marketing tools





Scritty


good solid information in here from an established and well rated bhw member. follow the leaders and you'll be rewarded with gems of information whenever they share a [METHOD].

for instance, ive never even heard of a programmable keyboard!

i do work for offline clients and theres one thing ive been wary of regards animoto and its this - somebody on here once said that animoto videos can be tracked and found by animoto themselves, but that hasnt been confirmed or refuted by anybody so far. anyone else here able to add their knowledge to this question?
 
What would henry ford have told you if you told him your whole giving up on automation theory? Where would we be today if automated robot assembly lines didn't make cars and a buttload of other products 100 times as fast as humans? You can take your 90 minutes to create your manual post, and I'll be at the beach while my program is making 500 of them for me with the same 90 minutes of my work to tell it what to do.


I used to do that - found I got far better results doing it myself.

The analogy isn't the car industry - the analogy is magazines and books.

Would you pay to read the same book, magazine or article over and over again?

Nope?

Neither would anyone else.


Having said that I have recently started using some other tools to get a ton of content out quickly. New "4rd tier" link rings that get hammered with stuff.
I use IAW coupled with a spinner a LOT (and similar tools). But my main money sites - my blogs with my name on (or a well chosen pseudonym) well they get unique content 100% written (well dictated into a speech to text program) by me.

IAW/Spinner combo groans out a couple of thousand articles a day, all mixed, spun and posted using the simplest of tools...Microsofts own Live Writer. Wither a straight "copy/paste/post" or use a bot to do it for me.

2000 articles that pass 80% copyscape takes about most of the day (it requires very little manual intervention - I'm normally playing SWTOR at the mo while this is going on)

That does for the filler, but my main ring of sites get the real stuff. Always have..always will.

Scritty
 
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