Dont.farm being sued by Google LLC

[FatBee]

"By taking advantage of the advance credit system, customers of Google Ads with Extracard.net credit cards on file have been able to “purchase” and execute ad campaigns without paying for them, causing monetary loss to Google"

This is funny, this should be:
"By taking advantage of the advance credit system, customers of Google Ads with Extracard.net credit cards on file have been able to “purchase” and execute ad campaigns without paying for them, causing less gains to Google on monthly bases while abusing their customers data"

its just funny

 

[nakamura]

Such a joke:

"Defendants are Russian cybercriminals who have silently infiltrated more than a million computers and other devices around the globe to create a network"

What exactly is Google with Android, their search engine, analytics, etc.? Maybe Google is "silently infiltrating millions of computers and devices around the globe to create a network" by using Android OS, etc.? But thats just a conspiracy theory

 

[PremiumAds]

So, OLD AGE ACCOUNTS = OBTAINED FRAUDLY.

How people have access to a 2008/2009/2010/2014 FB account/Google account lol It's clear they were hacked and stolen.

Nobody from 2008 made these accounts and kept with them just for the sake of selling after years. It ain't all candy and dandy

Don't know why old age google fb yt social media and adv accounts are even allowed to sell here. -_- This certainly puts a bad rep on the forum

@Zwielicht @Heiko

A lot of people farm accounts for years, it's not hard to use bots to mass create accounts and leave them there.
It's also possible to get real accounts by buying them from the original owners,
as far as I am aware these were the only sellers selling hacked accounts, and they were pretty open about it,
I guess being in Russia they never expected a lawsuit.

 

[Captain_Nothing]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...o-russians-for-alleged-organized-crime-schemehttps://www.coindesk.com/business/2...ptojacking-botnet-that-infected-1m-computers/

 

[GGAds]

I think the reason is due to political tension between USA and Russia, not technical issue.

 

[PremiumAds]

I think the reason is due to political tension between USA and Russia, not technical issue.

They infected a million or more computers, stole accounts and also probably took hundreds of thousands in ad spend from Google, that sounds pretty justified.
A Facebook lawsuit will probably come soon.

 

[Monzani]

No news, I believe that more than a year and a half ago I commented that they use hacked accounts, the support is garbage...if it was something personal, but no, there are dozens of people saying the same thing, I really do not know what is lacking to be banned from this forum, evidence and victims are not lacking, now there are also signs of credit card fraud and other more serious allegations

 

[PatJustPat]

No news, I believe that more than a year and a half ago I commented that they use hacked accounts, the support is garbage...if it was something personal, but no, there are dozens of people saying the same thing, I really do not know what is lacking to be banned from this forum, evidence and victims are not lacking, now there are also signs of credit card fraud and other more serious allegations

Because they know how to game the system, that’s why. If you know the rules, you can always fly below the radar.

 

[thescrrr]

Can't wait for to Google finally join the forum and shitlist them.

"Dear BTB they scammed us for $1.7 billion please refund us asap"

 

[CyberHour]

Making accounts to sell to people that will use them to use services and not pay for them is fraud anyone doing this will get sued eventually, unless they are somewhere remote like Afghanistan where good luck with getting a judgement.

And who said that Afghanistan is safe heaven. You can easily say GOODBYE to your arm for such fraud

 

[Monzani]

Extracard is also mentioned several times in this document...the admins should read this lawsuit and rethink the presence of these services on the forum, basically there are millions of infected users with stolen accounts being used without consent

Well, dozens of members have already said that, maybe with Google mentioning it some action will finally be taken

 

[Lukmat]

Extracard is also mentioned several times in this document...the admins should read this lawsuit and rethink the presence of these services on the forum, basically there are millions of infected users with stolen accounts being used without consent

Well, dozens of members have already said that, maybe with Google mentioning it some action will finally be taken

Buying old accounts is not a problem, because some of these accounts were just farmed.
I was reading the lawsuit about using extracard and Google said that 2800 euro of ads fund were used and they were paid for half.
How? It's 100% ca.%@ing

 

[Diamond Damien]

This is an allegation, not a judgement, that has been brought against one of our members. We have informed the member in question, frozen their ad account and await their response. Once a judgement has been made by the courts we will review our position based on the facts of the case.

 

[PatJustPat]

This is an allegation, not a judgement, that has been brought against one of our members. We have informed the member in question, frozen their ad account and await their response. Once a judgement has been made by the courts we will review our position based on the facts of the case.

Hopefully, you will reconsider the shit lists and refund request in retrospect! They still owe me money, and the shit list failed because first contact was made over Telegram… although I requested this particular type of account over BHW, as far as I remember!

 

[Alexion]

Google is trying to indict them on RICO law, which, in the normal world, is translated to organized crime. Typically, this kind of work is performed by the F.B.I, not Larry Page & Friends. Even if(and that's a big IF) the allegation passes, and goes into a full investigation, the two so called "defendants" will most likely have to oblige, and show Google, the U.S. legal system & friends, the middle finger.

The fact that Google thinks they have any remote right to sue people in Eastern Europe is laughable, to say the least. The U.S. legal system uses the RICO law way too loose, and has gotten a lot of people extradited for petty crimes in the past. Crimes that in their countries(and the normal world) would have never sent people to jail in the first place, maybe a slap on the wrist.

To all claiming the forum should do something about it, BHW is not the police. If this was the case, a lot of the services here would need taken down.

What, you think SEMRush Guru accounts just grow on trees for sellers to sell them for $6? Or grammarly YEARLY accounts for $30? Isn't it clear how they are created?

 

[PremiumAds]

Google is trying to indict them on RICO law, which, in the normal world, is translated to organized crime. Typically, this kind of work is performed by the F.B.I, not Larry Page & Friends. Even if(and that's a big IF) the allegation passes, and goes into a full investigation, the two so called "defendants" will most likely have to oblige, and show Google, the U.S. legal system & friends, the middle finger.

The fact that Google thinks they have any remote right to sue people in Eastern Europe is laughable, to say the least. The U.S. legal system uses the RICO law way too loose, and has gotten a lot of people extradited for petty crimes in the past. Crimes that in their countries(and the normal world) would have never sent people to jail in the first place, maybe a slap on the wrist.

To all claiming the forum should do something about it, BHW is not the police. If this was the case, a lot of the services here would need taken down.

What, you think SEMRush Guru accounts just grow on trees for sellers to sell them for $6? Or grammarly YEARLY accounts for $30? Isn't it clear how they are created?

The lawsuit seems to have a big enough impact that the seller has closed down their website and deleted most of their employees Skype/Telegram profiles, some of them telling clients that the service has ceased for good. Maybe they are just doing this as a precaution.
BHW can't do anything but ban them, not because of the lawsuit, but because they are leaving a ton of paying clients SOL.

 

[Salamouna]

Here you go : https://www.dropbox.com/s/mn3avipl2mvudfo/1_Complaint.pdf

Not surprising at all that a malware was in use. Additionally, for those who may be interested, check out Linux/Moose (another botnet) that was behind the whole SMM services network.

https://www.virusbulletin.com/virus...ial-media-fraud-botnets-bulk-reseller-panels/
It’s a pretty old publishing but goes to say how sketchy some of these services can get. Not saying anyone in our marketplace is running a botnet as most of them are resellers but the origin is something worth pondering over.

Residential proxy too

 

[bartosimpsonio]

So it seems like they are Russians and this was filed in a New York court. So all for show? Not a lawyer

Don't go russian to conclusions now

 

[Deleted member 658642]

Residential proxy too

Pretty much, yeah. I’ve had some insight into that world and using compromised devices to run SM campaigns, ads or even use them as proxies is considered to be such an infantile thing.

It’s actually the relatively moral blackhats who indulge in this. The others do things that are far worse and probably shouldn’t be discussed.

Either way, they’re no longer just breaking the ToS of some random platform and must be punished as such.

 

[Diamond Damien]

Hopefully, you will reconsider the shit lists and refund request in retrospect! They still owe me money, and the shit list failed because first contact was made over Telegram… although I requested this particular type of account over BHW, as far as I remember!

Unfortunately not, we run our shitlists based on our terms, if the transaction didn't occur on BHW then you should see if the platform that your transaction took place on has anything similar to our ShitList process - the ShitList terms are available here https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/shit-list-rules-procedures.1246633/