defi logic
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Lol is this actually possible?
Cheap PBN links are useless
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TheVigilante
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what next website gone for no good?
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Bullshit. YES there is penalty. And NO there is NOTHING about you waving your privacy in the TOS. Go see for yourself, because I did it. Even for sending anonymous statistical data from Chrome YOU have to specifically agree, otherwise Google cannot and wont do it. Its pretty easy to spot a unusual Internet activity from your computer, you know? Should Google do that - they WILL be slapped by fine in billions, like already happened. Just go and see the list of fines they already received both from EU and US for not telling the users how they collected the data - and this is data based on user activities, not data from personal spaces as e-mail and docs. TOS are not magic wand to wave whatever rights the users have, you know?
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How do you think Google sends you targeted advertising on gmail? They do read and process every single email, there is no reason they don't do this for breaking their terms of service on any of the other Alphabet services.
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The fines you're talking about were NOT related to this thread topic. At all.
You signed your rights away by signing up to a Google product. This isn't rocket science and isn't shocking news. This has been known for years.
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Again, go read them. I am waiting.
You can sign away your right to live or to become a slave - doesn't make it legal. I say it already, and will say it again - TOS are not magic wand. And Google are extremely careful what they add there.
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Can you give me one case where TOS have been overturned in the way you suggest?
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Go Google "Unconscionability".
defi logic
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Alright... So I took about 4 law courses during my uni, so I'll clear some things up with the ToS.
Legally, if you breach ToS then you have unlimited liabilities as google will punish you. This is a fact and there's nothing that you can do about it.
EXCEPT in the cases where the ToS have clauses which are illegal. In this case, you can go to the court or report it to the government and overturn the ruling.
But in reality, if you were punished, you wouldn't be going to the court, because it's expensive and time consuming.
So if you got punished, whether that was justified or not, you got rekt and there's nothing you can do about it.
Legally, if you breach ToS then you have unlimited liabilities as google will punish you. This is a fact and there's nothing that you can do about it.
EXCEPT in the cases where the ToS have clauses which are illegal. In this case, you can go to the court or report it to the government and overturn the ruling.
But in reality, if you were punished, you wouldn't be going to the court, because it's expensive and time consuming.
So if you got punished, whether that was justified or not, you got rekt and there's nothing you can do about it.
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Ok, so when has this been applied in say the last 15 years to overturn the TOS of a multi-billion dollar company. I know there was a case with iTunes (or something like that) in the EU like 10 years ago but I don't recall anything in recent years.
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That`s why usually when there are such clauses the regulators step in an slap a big fine. Consumers rarely have to fight such clauses personally in the court.
$5 billions Facebook get slammed just this year? And was exactly for violating user`s privacy.. despite what FB may or may not have in TOS.
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I don't know why you are bringing up this example, Facebook negotiated this settlement so they could change their business model so only they are able to monetize the data, they literally asked for that to happen?
defi logic
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Getting back to the OP, yeah you gotta be careful with some of the sellers. Because frankly, the buyers are only buying the service because they're less informed than the average guru.
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Wait what? Facebook are not obligated to share their data with another private company by any means, so no idea what do you mean by "they literally asked for this to happen". If they wanted this to happen they would stop all third parties from using their users data, period. No need to pay $5B on top on that. Also in the Facebook TOS there is, and I am quoting:
"We use the information we have (including your activity off our Products, such as the websites you visit and ads you see) to help advertisers and other partners measure the effectiveness and distribution of their ads and services, and understand the types of people who use their services and how people interact with their websites, apps, and services."
So users in fact agreed their data to be shared with 3rd parties, by the TOS of Facebook, dont you think? Yet they had to pay $5B for that (until now, EU may slap them with additional 2.3 billion EUR when their investigation is over). So the example is perfectly legit - FB abused their user privacy, and despite the users agreed to that, FB are forced to pay billions. And mind you this is NOT the users personal messages, which would be the case if Google used the content of your e-mail. If they dare to do this, they may not even survive as a company.
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My read out is they paid $5bn for the right to monetize the data on their platform as they promised not to share the data with third parties which they used to do when growing their user base.
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Users agreed their data to be shared. Why FB would negotiate to pay $ 5B for something users agreed with, if is not exactly an example of "Unconscionability"?
Also mind you FB have no other way of monetizing, but to share info with 3rd parties (advertisers). What they are forced by regulators to do is to actually filter with whom they share the data and follow for what this data is used, not to stop sharing all together.
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They don't share any data with third parties, advertisers bid to display adverts to people using facebook or audience network and facebook matches these bids with the best person online in an auction. No data is exchanged
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Noooo no no no no. Noooo. No. No.
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It's terrible that this happened to you.
Who did you buy from to make this happen exactly? I would like to give them a piece of my mind.