Affiliate CPL Black Hat circle idea

[aethernal3]

All right, I ve been thinking about this:

Imagine you want to buy something or even droppship from lets say ebay or amazon. You could party up with your friend/family member (not so close)/or some individual you trust and make a little affiliate circle. He would create blog or just post and promote afffiliate link trough which you would buy stuff... By this you would save some € and could make bigger margins or just get items cheaper. Imagine this with droppshipping when you buy item for 10€ but you make 1€ back on each order so your margin will rise for 1€ or you can just go down with selling price and beat competition with it.

I think this would specially work if you make bigger orders. Because of the taxes you pay + its not worth it to get into trouble over few cents.

What do you think about this idea? Is it ilegal? Would it be easy for company to find out about this?

 

[Eat You]

So you want to do dropshipping with affiliate marketing did i get it right?

 

[aethernal3]

So you want to do dropshipping with affiliate marketing did i get it right?

Ehm sorry English isnt my first language.

The point of this method is to lower your expenses. With this method the money you make trough AFF link are your own, so it can cut down your costs a little bit.

 

[Eat You]

Ehm sorry English isnt my first language.

The point of this method is to lower your expenses. With this method the money you make trough AFF link are your own, so it can cut down your costs a little bit.

I think i understand.
So you want others to promote your store as affiliates right?

 

[1Enigma]

They had a Pyramid Facebook group doing at one time with trial products.
They would Buy the product split the profits cancel before the trial and recruit others.

 

[Eat You]

They had a Pyramid Facebook group doing at one time with trial products.
They would Buy the product split the profits cancel before the trial and recruit others.

What happened to the group you mentioned?
What went wrong?

 

[Mediawiz]

What happened to the group you mentioned?
What went wrong?

Probably caught by the anti fraud team from the involved networks

These methods lasts usually not so long: Or anti-fraud detects them or advertisers cut those affiliates because they see the pattern repeating.

 

[1Enigma]

What happened to the group you mentioned?
What went wrong?

Not sure it kind of fell off. The the lady offered checks to show proof to recruit people.

Probably caught by the anti fraud team from the involved networks

These methods lasts usually not so long: Or anti-fraud detects them or advertisers cut those affiliates because they see the pattern repeating.

They probably found the Group, I would have had it in a private membership site.

 

[aethernal3]

So you want others to promote your store as affiliates right?

NO you got it completly wrong. This idea is not about making money but about saving some costs. It would be like this:

Lets say i dropship from amazon to ebay and I dropship drones.
1) My friend would set up affiliate link. And then he would publish it on some blog.
2) I d buy my drones trough his affiliate link. Lets say 1 drone costs 200€.
3) He would get commision for my purchase circa 20€.
4) We would split the money 50:50 meaning I bought the drone for 190€
5) Repeat all the time and you save a lot of money if you do this in big

 

[Eat You]

NO you got it completly wrong. This idea is not about making money but about saving some costs. It would be like this:

Lets say i dropship from amazon to ebay and I dropship drones.
1) My friend would set up affiliate link. And then he would publish it on some blog.
2) I d buy my drones trough his affiliate link. Lets say 1 drone costs 200€.
3) He would get commision for my purchase circa 20€.
4) We would split the money 50:50 meaning I bought the drone for 190€
5) Repeat all the time and you save a lot of money if you do this in big

I get you now. You could try I guess. My only concern if it violates amazon's or whatever place your gonna dropship from TOS.

 

[aethernal3]

I get you now. You could try I guess. My only concern if it violates amazon's or whatever place your gonna dropship from TOS.

I think it does because you fuck with their affiliate program. And thats why Im curious about other people toughts on this topic. If its worth it if not... If somebody tried it before.

 

[Flamemoon]

I think that most affiliate network will spot this thing on cause lot of such doings will really come from something like that whole set of IP's anyway and that's really it. Nothing more than that totally. It's very very hard to implement on a big scale anyway.

 

[Jhems30]

NO you got it completly wrong. This idea is not about making money but about saving some costs. It would be like this:

Lets say i dropship from amazon to ebay and I dropship drones.
1) My friend would set up affiliate link. And then he would publish it on some blog.
2) I d buy my drones trough his affiliate link. Lets say 1 drone costs 200€.
3) He would get commision for my purchase circa 20€.
4) We would split the money 50:50 meaning I bought the drone for 190€
5) Repeat all the time and you save a lot of money if you do this in big

Hello. I think I understand what you are saying here....but let me just be clear, if you don't mind. You are waiting for an order to be placed on your ebay auction/store and then buying the same product, through your partners amazon associates account-to fulfill the order. The two of you then split the associates commission. The part I think I'm missing is, "why"? If you are selling the product at the same or lower price as the listed Amazon price-why not just do the associates program? What's the advantage of doing Ebay too....maybe a shipping profit component? I guess I'm confused on this part. Thanks.

 

[aethernal3]

What's the advantage of doing Ebay too

Because for these example I used .... AMAZON to EBAY dropshipping method .... you can apply it to any other method where you buy from 1 site that also have affiliate program and sell it elswhere .... by this method you just save some additional money trough affiliate marketing

 

[aethernal3]

I think that most affiliate network will spot this thing on cause lot of such doings will really come from something like that whole set of IP's anyway and that's really it. Nothing more than that totally. It's very very hard to implement on a big scale anyway.

Thats what I tought ... maybe using VPN and also different amazon accounts would help

 

[DrDuran]

wouldnt you save money by just buying direct from alibaba etc?

 

[aethernal3]

wouldnt you save money by just buying direct from alibaba etc?

Hi, sorry for not replying I wasn t in my country for a while.

Yes but dropshipping from alibaba is something completly different than from amazon. This is not about alibaba dropshipping.