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the last few steps to make wordpress better in the eyes of search engines are great.
what I would like to know is how to edit .htaccess so that the admin area is not visible??
 
The essence of this post is confusing.
Yes, WordPress is widely used, and yes, Google does value uniqueness.
From what can I gather from this is just that you can use Word Press, but don't just use the standard template. Use other template, create content, get some custom widget, etc.

My main banking site is banking great for 5-6 years, dominating some SERP in my country, even against the big boys using just Word Press.
A lot of my tanking site use Word Press also, and most of them still banking.
Some of my banking site use custom HTML, some of them already tank.

It's not about WHAT engine do you use for your web, it's all about WHAT is your website.
 
I think your a bloody clown (how funny considering your location and handle).

Just because people dont know how to configure or properly use a tool (eg: wordpress) isnt a reason not to use or stay away from it.


I am mild mannered (usually), but your post is full of shit.

Most people would have actually paid attention if you made a post that went into detail how to secure wordpress after a default install, but no you had to rant on about staying away from wordpress altogether?

Thats kinda like saying women shouldnt drive cars because they cannot change a tire properly.

You owe me a few minutes of my life back :bsflag:



evilclown said:
No need to read the title twice. You correctly read it. I'm going to talk about WordPress Blogging Tool and why to stay away from it if you are niche builder, Internet marketer, and the best tips I can provide on when and how to use WP.


You must be thinking what's with this clown? Who he think he is? While I'm not going to give you a background check or a DNA test to prove who I'm all I will say is 14 years of experience working in the online world. I'm not claiming to be a guru, or expert, to the contrary humbly I accept that I learn something new everyday. But you don't want to read about that boring part, let's get down to business.


WordPress, ah the friendly blogging tool that has cultivated millions of users with the famous 5 minute install. Yes, this what actually made WP the choice. Any nooblet could have a running blog within 5 minutes without the requirement of creating or editing PHP config files.


You see, now days CMS have installation files that mimic this easy to use install but back in the day you actually need it to edit a configuration file witch contain the database information, your server path, your website path, and all that mumbo jumbo. So new IM'ers you are welcome, we suffer so you can have it easy now.


WP gain popularity because of this flaw on many of the famous CMS's like Joomla!, Mambo and others. Still WP installation is one of the shortest in the market. You can have a blog installed 3 or 4 clicks away while others still agile but require 5 to 6 clicks it all depends on the CMS functions.


PLUGINS! PLUGINS! I NEED MOAR!!!


Need a new functionality in your blog? There is a plugin for that. Need to add caching to your blog? There is a plugin for that. There is a plugin for almost anything you can imagine, and WP allows you to add them with a simple few clicks. Like those other CMS that you have to download files and upload and go trough hoops, and ask for passport and sign a blood pact to get it running. Again once more WP teach all this CMS's how it's done.


I'm not going to write about themes, you know is the story as plugins. Hundreds available in the market for free and paid. So I will save a few lines on that.


I cannot denied WP is brilliant, easy, friendly, and there is a plugin for almost everything you can imagine. Almost anything. Is so amazing that millions began to use and still today is the most used blogging platform. hence it empowers a great chunk of website on the net.


Now this amazingness and easyness attracted many spammers, niche developers, domainers, and even CEO's that know nothing about website development. Free and powerful, what else you can ask for?


Google had to start tracking what was coming in as blogs with EMD's and so many other things. That's one of the reasons behind this zoo of updates. Yes, there is other intentions behind it, but this are the ones that "SEO Gurus" don't talk about. The zoo updates are big algorithm changes that detect new things. WP is one of those things. Google has so much information, footprints on WP that you can register a domain today and create the site on a new server with WP and your home page will be cache within days without the need to point one single link to it. By just selecting (witch is selected by default) let search engines find my site setting.


Go ahead try it, you will be amazed by the results. WP is so over used is not even funny any longer. Google one of the first thing that would crawl is your plugins page. Google even knows all the headers, and output. Once you install AIOS (All-in-One-SEO) the comment <!-- using AIOS --> will be added and bang! Sandbox you go.


Sandbox is not any longer because of domain age, it about content. You know content is king. Google can read content. Actually Google can read the context of your content. Google will give you ranks on low cheap keywords, but you won't be playing on the money keywords for a while.


So in order to succeed, you need tom stay away from WP. Is not your friend any more, actually Google wants you to use WP. You making it easy for them.


Now, there is a way where you can use WP and avoid been flagged by Google. yeah, flagged sounds harsh but you can use any term you want there. To avoid been <<use your own word here>> by Google you need to cover a few tracks and even then is not guaranteed that you are not going to be <<use your own word here>>.


This to do:
A) Avoid free or heavily used themes. Creating your own theme is the best option here, while time consuming it gives you a unique structure. Look at great blogs, their theme is unique.
B) Avoid using plugins that add comments on the code. While this one would be hard for freebies, try to pouch some money and buy uncommented plugins. Again you are aiming for uniqueness.
C) Make your tags, archives, users, and other pages noindex, nocache.
D) Make good usage of .htaccess, make your admin area be restricted by .htaccess while this will be an extra security for your site crawlers will ignore this section. Again uniqueness.
E) Use robot.txt to extend where you don't want the crawler to go.
F) Use 404 server pages rather than WP 404 Plugin pages. Make sure they are returning a 404 status in the header.
G) Rename your upload folders. Use something differently than uploads.
H) Build quality HTML and XML sitemaps. Don't forget to set a tiers on the HTML version to ensure success.


Remember you can use WP but aim for uniqueness, a few extra steps will ensure success.


Even for little niche sites create a theme and recreate that theme with different CSS frameworks, or code structure. This would be your tools use them wisely.
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By the logic of the OP, since 100% of the blogging universe also use html and/or php, that also leads to too much of a footprint. WP removes almost all the coding obstacles keeping people from putting sites up. I'd say, keep using WP, make it as unique as you can (mix up the plugins and modifications for each), then just bank. Keep IM life simple.
 
WebDev said:
Serious websites use static HTML or Drupal CMS

I laugh and roll my eyes when I see web design companies advertising for Wordpress site designers
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Do you think that using pure HTML (self made, the "old way") is better if you wanted to have a good article based content site? Just leaving out the clogging code and use as simple HTML as possible (without sacrificing looks too much). Would be interesting to test that.

Thanks for your comments.
 
Many bloogers prefer blogger over wordpress but i find later more user friendly and easy to handle. Would you like to suggest any third worthwhile for newbies??
 
done lots of site using wordpress never got any problem, for 1 niches one of my site is in the top 3 position with computation to 7 years old gov. blogs and wiki site
 
In my oppinion, the Wordpress is the best OpenSource platform because it's fully customizable, u can add a lot of plugins for your website, the SEO is amazing with this platform and also you can have a nice template with seo optimization and other things good for social sharing and stuff's like that.
 
In my oppinion, the Wordpress is the best OpenSource platform because it's fully customizable, u can add a lot of plugins for your website, the SEO is amazing with this platform and also you can have a nice template with seo optimization and other things good for social sharing and stuff's like that.
 
wow, he's been here just over a year, must be an expert, after all, he totally knows how to rank sites
seriously, as far as split testing goes, i have a personal blog network of 40+ sites just for one project, running 2 different custom themes half of each set of custom themes are running yoast, the other half are running my own custom php to generate dynamic meta descriptions and titles, all the sites have just about the same linking structure, and the interlinking structure has highpoints generated within all 4 camps of setup, know what kind of ranking difference they have?
statistically, none, now both sets have their positive and negative outliers exactly as expected according to the inbound links and interlinking structures

if the theme or plugin would have made a difference then i'd have seen some unexpected dips where there shouldn't have been, but that simply isn't the case

<sarcasm>
but i'm sure you didn't just post this based on conjecture and hearsay, after all, why would a noob want to mislead people?
</sarcasm>
 
They can pick up on tendencies and track you in some form or fashion... but who can't really. Wordpress is easy to use and gives them what they want even faster.... content. So now they can assess the content as worthwhile or not. You give google too much credit
 
good post but I dunno about the comments being skipped. Ive seen a difference in ranking by adding my own comments to a page. With all the tips you should do that security wise. As for the theme I've seen the standard theme out rank many sites.
 
evilclown said:
No need to read the title twice. You correctly read it. I'm going to talk about WordPress Blogging Tool and why to stay away from it if you are niche builder, Internet marketer, and the best tips I can provide on when and how to use WP.


You must be thinking what's with this clown? Who he think he is? While I'm not going to give you a background check or a DNA test to prove who I'm all I will say is 14 years of experience working in the online world. I'm not claiming to be a guru, or expert, to the contrary humbly I accept that I learn something new everyday. But you don't want to read about that boring part, let's get down to business.


WordPress, ah the friendly blogging tool that has cultivated millions of users with the famous 5 minute install. Yes, this what actually made WP the choice. Any nooblet could have a running blog within 5 minutes without the requirement of creating or editing PHP config files.


You see, now days CMS have installation files that mimic this easy to use install but back in the day you actually need it to edit a configuration file witch contain the database information, your server path, your website path, and all that mumbo jumbo. So new IM'ers you are welcome, we suffer so you can have it easy now.


WP gain popularity because of this flaw on many of the famous CMS's like Joomla!, Mambo and others. Still WP installation is one of the shortest in the market. You can have a blog installed 3 or 4 clicks away while others still agile but require 5 to 6 clicks it all depends on the CMS functions.


PLUGINS! PLUGINS! I NEED MOAR!!!


Need a new functionality in your blog? There is a plugin for that. Need to add caching to your blog? There is a plugin for that. There is a plugin for almost anything you can imagine, and WP allows you to add them with a simple few clicks. Like those other CMS that you have to download files and upload and go trough hoops, and ask for passport and sign a blood pact to get it running. Again once more WP teach all this CMS's how it's done.


I'm not going to write about themes, you know is the story as plugins. Hundreds available in the market for free and paid. So I will save a few lines on that.


I cannot denied WP is brilliant, easy, friendly, and there is a plugin for almost everything you can imagine. Almost anything. Is so amazing that millions began to use and still today is the most used blogging platform. hence it empowers a great chunk of website on the net.


Now this amazingness and easyness attracted many spammers, niche developers, domainers, and even CEO's that know nothing about website development. Free and powerful, what else you can ask for?


Google had to start tracking what was coming in as blogs with EMD's and so many other things. That's one of the reasons behind this zoo of updates. Yes, there is other intentions behind it, but this are the ones that "SEO Gurus" don't talk about. The zoo updates are big algorithm changes that detect new things. WP is one of those things. Google has so much information, footprints on WP that you can register a domain today and create the site on a new server with WP and your home page will be cache within days without the need to point one single link to it. By just selecting (witch is selected by default) let search engines find my site setting.


Go ahead try it, you will be amazed by the results. WP is so over used is not even funny any longer. Google one of the first thing that would crawl is your plugins page. Google even knows all the headers, and output. Once you install AIOS (All-in-One-SEO) the comment <!-- using AIOS --> will be added and bang! Sandbox you go.


Sandbox is not any longer because of domain age, it about content. You know content is king. Google can read content. Actually Google can read the context of your content. Google will give you ranks on low cheap keywords, but you won't be playing on the money keywords for a while.


So in order to succeed, you need tom stay away from WP. Is not your friend any more, actually Google wants you to use WP. You making it easy for them.


Now, there is a way where you can use WP and avoid been flagged by Google. yeah, flagged sounds harsh but you can use any term you want there. To avoid been <<use your own word here>> by Google you need to cover a few tracks and even then is not guaranteed that you are not going to be <<use your own word here>>.


This to do:
A) Avoid free or heavily used themes. Creating your own theme is the best option here, while time consuming it gives you a unique structure. Look at great blogs, their theme is unique.
B) Avoid using plugins that add comments on the code. While this one would be hard for freebies, try to pouch some money and buy uncommented plugins. Again you are aiming for uniqueness.
C) Make your tags, archives, users, and other pages noindex, nocache.
D) Make good usage of .htaccess, make your admin area be restricted by .htaccess while this will be an extra security for your site crawlers will ignore this section. Again uniqueness.
E) Use robot.txt to extend where you don't want the crawler to go.
F) Use 404 server pages rather than WP 404 Plugin pages. Make sure they are returning a 404 status in the header.
G) Rename your upload folders. Use something differently than uploads.
H) Build quality HTML and XML sitemaps. Don't forget to set a tiers on the HTML version to ensure success.


Remember you can use WP but aim for uniqueness, a few extra steps will ensure success.


Even for little niche sites create a theme and recreate that theme with different CSS frameworks, or code structure. This would be your tools use them wisely.
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My tags rank very well within Google index.. I am not going to de-index them :p

I disagree with doing that! tags rank just as well as pages and if you have unique content meta descrip and unique content post u will rank twice for the same post. :D
 
very boring, don't believe this crap, all seos use wordpress and they rank
 
Panther28 said:
lol, i just switched from joomla to wordpress, and now you want me to give up wordpress too!!! :):outtahere
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He ment to say "Why stay away from Wordpress unless you have a Joomla site"....joomla is shite
 
In building a blog network it is my understanding to diversify everything. This means that some of your sites should be wordpress, joomla, drupal, html/css, and etc. The more everything is diversified the better ~_~. If you build every blog in wordpress on the same ip.... then your asking to get slapped.
 
Sanasante said:
In building a blog network it is my understanding to diversify everything. This means that some of your sites should be wordpress, joomla, drupal, html/css, and etc. The more everything is diversified the better ~_~. If you build every blog in wordpress on the same ip.... then your asking to get slapped.
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if you build a blog network with any sites sharing an ip linking to eachother it will be devalued, it doesn't matter what the CMS is,
organically you can find large clusters of wordpress sites that link only to other wordpress sites with the occasional joomla or wiki target
if you build it smart the entire blog network can be wordpress without leaving a footprint, something like 20-30% of the internet runs on wordpress so it's just stupid fearmongering you are spouting there

please, if you haven't actually tested it, STFU WITH THE TRIBAL KNOWLEDGE BULLSHIT

on second though, keep it up, i will not be correcting any more falsehoods in this thread, if my competition wants to hobble themselves by believing this shit let them, it'll just be easier for me to beat the fools that believe this makebelieve fairy tale bullshit
 
I thought the same 2 years ago that wordpress had something to do with seo and ranking stuff which pulled my sites down, but I came to know that I was wrong.
 
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