Why stay away from WordPress

whats wordpress?

Misleading title

Looked into Drupal somewhat seriously, but seemed to need a heftier hosting setup every time when compared to Wordpress.

subster said:

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Hear this guy instead of this 23conspiracy23guy23

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Did you realize your post in this thread is post number..... 23
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WebDev said:

Serious websites use static HTML or Drupal CMS

I laugh and roll my eyes when I see web design companies advertising for Wordpress site designers

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Yet, it is not rare that wordpress websites win Awwward's (one of the most prestigious web design awards of modern times) site of the day, or even Site of the Month.

Serious website designers use wathever the fuck they want do make serious websites, they dont repugnate a CMS because it's popular. Far from that.

your thread title says...
[h=2]Why stay away from WordPress[/h]
which could be interpreted 2 ways.....

Why stay away from WordPress? (Why? Indeed? ...because it is so good)
or
Why stay away from WordPress? (stating the reasons why memebrs should stay way)

just like the thread title, your post is confusing

i understand what op trying to say but wordpress makes my life easier for a culinary student with no programming watsoever experience.

I like wordpress because there are many plugins selection to optimize SEO for yout blog. Right now I am using All in one SEO (for submissions), SEO Easy Optimizer and SEO No Duplicate.
If you need more plugins to help SEO, try this :

Google XML Sitemap for Videos
Google XML Sitemaps
Login Lock
SEO Rank Reporter
ShareThis
Smart 404
Spam Free Wordpress
Topsy Retweet Button
WP Policies
WP Smush.it
WP Super Cache
WP Widget Cache
WordPress SEO by Yoast
Google Analytics for WordPress

Personally I hate and just tolerate WP. It's a website maker for the masses, like it or not.

Does this mean WP sites are inferior?

No.

It means that many people will make inferior websites using word press because its easier than learning HTML/CSS to make inferior websites with. Face it, left on their own, most people make crappy websites.

Before WP it was with WYSIWYG editors.

I am sure that if I had the knowledge in WP that I have in HTML/CSS we would get along fine.

I am just as sure that someone skilled with WP can make beautiful and functional websites, I ahve seen them.

WP is a tool, and like any tool, if you don't know how to use it the quality of your product will be lower.

If its the only tool you know how to use, use it. The more you use it, the better the quality of your product will become. If it is your favorite tool, use it.

But don't tell me its the best tool for ME to use.

It is not the best tool for me, personally I'd rather have a root canal.

considering to use blogger guys??

Content is king, to think Google gives a dam what your website is built with is utter rubbish. I know guys with hard coded basic HTML sites that make more affiliate revenue than the majority of the members of this forum. I also know of guys who run leading authority sites who use Wordpress. What Google cares about content and user experience, if you provide a high quality user experience and provide what the searcher is looking for then it's all good. If you want to provide spammy content your probably going to fail with any platform.

At the end of the day, all of the major CMS' are basically the same (php, sql, javascript/ajax, etc). All open source, db driven, very large dev communities and extension/plugin options, etc. In the right hands, they can all be "pimped" to do amazing things. For awhile they each had their schtick: WP for simplicity, Drupal for complex/flexibility, Joomla was a little of both. Nowadays, WP is no longer just a blogging tool and has become very powerful platform. Drupal has become much more user friendly. Joomla still sits in the middle (and happens to be my goto platform for clients). When explaining to clients, I often use the desktop OS triad as a parallel. WP is like Apple OS, Drupal is like Linux, Joomla is like Windows. They all can help you be more productive. The only one that is better is the one you are most comfortable using.

In regards to OP points about removing plugin comments and such to eliminate footprints for uniqueness, well. first off plugin comments are the least of the footprints Google can identify to recognize it as a WP setup. There are many other "patterns" in WP...and all standardized systems for that matter. believe me, even if there was a way to have no plugins on WP, Google could still easily recognize it.

I would wonder, outside of security reasons (which is a valid reason) why would you want make changes that could themselves be a pattern/footprint. If you were running a blog network, the last thing you would want to do is modify/optimize every install the same. To get the most "natural" setup, you would have to mimic "natural" installs. Which would mean a blend of modified/tricked out setups, moderate setups, untouched/default (the majority), etc.

Who ever is talking shit about wordpress should contact psychiatrists. You people have been doing so much hard work at so little time, that your brains have started malfunctioning. I am not joking actually...

I'm sure you made a typo. It should read 14 days in IM. Please correct.

This Just In:

Registering any EMD Domains at GoDaddy is a giant red flag and google will castrate you and your first born for doing so. It is to be avoided!

Or... Conversely ...

Its so overwhelmingly popular that it would take too many indonesian and middle eastern cube dwellers with a guide book from Matt Cunts to manually review them all that they just say - fuck it!



methinks the OP suggestions may be akin to wearing a bright pink outfit with neon glowing lights on it - to this:

This is so true, found this out a while back. Had a new blog with 28 pages indexed, but 77 had been crawled. There were 31 pages at the time.

If you know the WordPress routines and hooks properly, it is an excellent framework to work.

However, if you don't code and install tons of plugins then it will be a pain. You need also good hosting machine and secure WP /wp-admin properly, otherwise you keep being attacked...

Conclusion: WordPress rocks if you know how to code, if you use it as a user with tons of plugins it can be a pain.

Quite true. WP doesn't have autoloading implemented properly. So, everything loads at once. That's a major disadvantage if you have a lot of plugins.

JVpartnership said:

If you know the WordPress routines and hooks properly, it is an excellent framework to work.

However, if you don't code and install tons of plugins then it will be a pain. You need also good hosting machine and secure WP /wp-admin properly, otherwise you keep being attacked...

Conclusion: WordPress rocks if you know how to code, if you use it as a user with tons of plugins it can be a pain.

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This thread is a joke..

If you use WP, like 90+% of bloggers and site 'makers', just to try luck at Adsense, then you're using a great car just to feel its air-conditioner, for example. The real fun is in running that car (WP vehicle) through highways and bumpy roads (normal usage, with help from plugins, scripts, etc., and facing known/unknown difficulties) and meet your destination|goals (demonstrating your skills, giving out some info, or even making $1k/d?!) with minimum fuss.

Content can make or break it (your journey on WP). Backlinks can make it or break it. Your competitors, if any, can make it or break it. In fact anything can break it. But at least it enables you to begin something, easily and swiftly in the beginning, and concentrate on your content (all types) on it later. The fun is in riding it (the car/WP foundation) and create a great journey that will be remembered - better if by your audiences.

Other can use better cars (Joomla | HTML | Drupal | etc.) if they know how to use it properly and expertly, I'm talking about the general 90+% public who matters. There are plugins and information about what one should use with WP to be safe and wise with it.