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why is it so difficult to rank using white hat?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by Ronald2000, Aug 1, 2013.

  1. Ronald2000

    Ronald2000 Registered Member

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    My website has already one year and I have been using white hat methods since then to rank my websites still I'm getting few visits and few engagement , I wonder if it has to do because I'm kind on new on this or because white hat methods to rank websites take time.
     
  2. jewradly

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    A year is much too long to not notice any difference in traffic. You should change your methods because they obviously aren't working like you want.
     
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    KHer0 Senior Member

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    Don't think about it like whitehat and Blackhat..

    Think about what your site needs and just do it...
     
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    m2bsolutions Registered Member

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    If you are getting this type of problem then first check your on page may be problem is in the on page becasue on page is very big factor according to the google and then focus more on the content writing.
     
  5. serpwizard

    serpwizard Newbie

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    Actually white hat SEO is a slow proces other than the black hat but it is effective than the black hat. You can update on page of your site if you are not getting rank from last one year.
     
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    May be heavy competition and it depends niche,keyword,article content etc etc....,
     
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    Roparadise BANNED BANNED

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    Your probably focusing to much on a single keyword you need to increase the amount of content to get alot of traffic from long tail keywords.
     
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    kbos2hm Junior Member

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    Have you tried thinking like the people who would visit your site and why ? Have you been using one method or different ones. I found just trying everything out and keeping the ones that really worked.
     
  9. MysticMerchant

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    This could be many things, im not sure how successful your niche is, if your niche happens to be 'black printer toner pre 1990' then you probably wont get much traffic even if you ranked number 1.

    I managed to get one of my bigger sites to rank 1 with little effort and NO black hat. Just simple on page seo. Sounds like you need more content, and to target more keywords. Review your pages and make sure they are optimized correctly. MOST black hat operations will have a foundation of great white hat techniques in place, using black hat methods to improve the performance of their white hat tactics.

    That being said, have patience, dont put the cart before the horse and do the white hat stuff right. It is all too often that people get inpatient and just dive into spending money on black hat efforts towards a site that really isn't prepared for it.
     
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  10. Zouper

    Zouper Junior Member

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    Could you be a little more specific about the "white hat methods" you were using for a year and they didnt have any effect? Maybe we could suggest you some other methods or improve your own, there is no way that after a year there would be no significant results
     
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    phracktl Regular Member

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    If you build it, they won't come. How could they?

    Look at this: http://internet-map.net/

    "In space no one can hear you scream...."

    You need links. Great links. You need a great linkbuilding plan, executed with tools (diy) or services. Great links and then drip feed content to your growing traffic to get retention, building audience and authority.

    Becker will clear up for you what WH is all about atm
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKEzw7t_e9w
     
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  12. MysticMerchant

    MysticMerchant Newbie

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    The Becker link clears up 10000000% of everything i have had frustrations with online, he explains it EXACTLY how the situation is. Thank you for this sir!
     
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  13. citizenx28

    citizenx28 Regular Member

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    If done properly, White Hat won't take a year to rank. At most it can take like 2 months.
    It only takes time because everything is natural.
     
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    whitehat SEO = ADwords!
     
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    Yep, you need to start thinking out of the box and come over to the dark side!
     
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    It depends on how competitive the targeted keyword is you're going after. If you have access to backlink tools like opensite explorer or majesticSEO (there are others), you can get an idea of how strong the backlink portfolios of your competitors are and if you are going after the right kws for you at this time as it takes some resources to displace an authority site that is ranking for a high search volume term.

    Hope this helps and good luck to you!
     
  17. legendking

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    it truly depends on your keyword and the competition, and i think whitehat ranks websites, but just that you follow all the rules, gray hat seems better , when compared to white hat though, but am always mixing the simple blackhat with white site for my authority websites.
     
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    Competition could be too heavy? Remember, links are important and obtaining them isn't exactly black hat. Get links to your site by reaching out to someone with a site that has the same niche as you and optimize the anchor text for that link. It's possible that any link going to your site isn't being picked up by google at all. You might not even exist in Google's eyes.
     
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    You're following what Google says is the #1 problem. You are your own worst enemy doing that.

    Stop thinking like somebody trying to rank a website. Start thinking like a marketer and business owner.

    What brings YOU results? What makes YOU money? And most importantly... How do you provide value to your site visitors and customers while making a profit you are happy with?
     
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    Your on page seo sucks, or your site sucks, or you target a non action keyword.