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What to use to build website? Wordpress, Joomla, etc...?

Discussion in 'Web Design' started by sexyrims, Mar 24, 2011.

  1. sexyrims

    sexyrims Newbie

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    Hey there,

    I have someone to build my website. Now, he's asking me...Wordpress,Joomla, Drupal,Magento, Durpal, Codeigniter, Zend, etc...?

    All I know is that wordpress has great plug-ins like the all-in-one SEO.

    What do you suggest I should have him use to build my website...also keeping in mind future SEO success? In addition, are any of these easier to use when it comes to cms and credit card/bill payments/e-commerce in the future?

    THANKS FOR YOUR HELP!
     
  2. dragonlube

    dragonlube Regular Member

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    well he really shouldn't be asking you that, he should go with what he knows, personally I would go with Wordpress, great seo benefits, easy, plugins, etc..

    Make sure you are getting your money's worth and not just some free template he picked up and through some duplicate content on it.
     
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    Wordpress is a good option in many situations simply because it has the most people using it, so there are tons of good free themes, plugins etc. It's reasonable for SEO (although it needs some tweaking to perform well) and most importantly, there are about 8 trillion tutorials about it on the web - any problem you might have with WP, you can be sure that someone else has already posted about it on Google.
     
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    Dragonblue, thanks a bunch! Next question is what are the best 5 hosting companies in your opinion?

    What about web hosting vs. reseller hosting? Which company is the BEST? :)
     
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    zacatictac Power Member

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    I like wordpress, But I also love joomla. If your going for seo use wordpress. But joomla has a lot of great plugins and easy really easy to work with.
     
  6. sexyrims

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    Awesome. That sounds good.
     
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    Wordpress is good for putting up a quick SEO site.. Joomla is good for making beautiful sites. I have my product site using a joomla template
     
  8. sexyrims

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    Hey there,

    Thanks for your reply. As you can see I am NOT familiar with WP at all. I played around with it once. :) I understand I can get download that one-click WP with the major hosting companies. Now, if I was going to host several WP websites in the future, that is possible correct? Or would I have to keep creating WP accts for each one? (hope that makes sense)
     
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    Thanks! So, Joomla has a better look? What other benefits? i heard it comes with cms?
     
  10. wpbacklinks

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    Wordpress is the best choice!

    you can customize it, too many themes and important plugins! :)
     
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    Looks like WP is the favorite! :) THANKS!
     
  12. sonyvaio

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    Would recomend Joomla cause its very easy to use and edit
     
  13. sexyrims

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    Thanks for your feeback. You don't think WP is easy to use? What makes joomla so easy to use and edit? Is the platform more efficient? What about SEO?

    I know...lots of questions!
     
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    I'd throw my weight in behind Joomla too to be honest, if you've got to learn something from scratch, why not go for something snazzy :D

    Wordpress is really nice and easy (appart from when its being infuriating :D), gets indexed incredibly fast by google and you can produce something very quickly with it, but at the end of the day, its still a wordpress site. (Nothing wrong with that, but I definatly find in alot of cases that if you want to stand out from the crowd you'll be working against the benefits that wordpress brings).

    (Just because something works really well, has industry support and millions of happy owners doesn't mean you have to, otherwise we'd all have Iphones made by sweatshops slaves)
     
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    salihveseli Newbie

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    I think wordpress it's better than joomla,it's easy to customize,install plugins and it's good about SEO..
     
  16. Virus1

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    This is my opinion on this....

    joomla is a CMS(content manamgement system) just like wordpress and drupal and others.

    If you are going to do Internet marketing... go for wordpress. There are a lot of pugins for word press geared toward internet marketing specifically.

    If you want to build an authority site.. or something more complicated...

    go for Joomla... there are a ton of plug ins also.... but they are not all geared toward Internet marketing....
    you have SEO plugins also... and a lot more available than wordpress.... but word press has way too many just
    focusing on internet marketing.


    most of the wordpress sites look somewhat the same... unless you go thru severe customization.... most just look like blogs... which is what they are...

    joomla has a million looks... and they are are really really different...not just visually different but functionally different.

    drupal is industrial strength CMS.... security is way stronger... but the looks are limited... it has less community support..

    I build website for big corporations... and joomla is the minimum that I could use for these sites.... DRUPAL would be a step up... they would not accept a wordpress site.

    To corporations... wordpress sites are amateurish... and they are okay as add-ons... but not as the main site for a coporation.
    meaning.. they will have their main site... then a wordpress site at BLOG.bigcompany.com

    check out alexa.com for the top sites in the world.... you will find joomla, drupal and others..... but I have not seen any wordpress site
    in the top sites. I might be wrong.. but i did not see them last time i checked.


    hope that helps...
     
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    hosting wise.... i had godaddy for a while... like over a year...
    but as soon as i started gaining traffic... like over 10k a day...
    the website gave out...
    it was a joomla site... joomla sites can handle tons of traffic.

    it turns out it was dodaddy's problem... but till this day..
    they have not fixed it.
    i finally made a clone of the site and move it to another hosting company
    it works fine , without me changing anything

    right now i have HOSTGATOR
    virtual dedicated hosting
    its like night and day compared to godaddy
    its fast, support is knowledgable
    at godaddy.... there were times that after
    bouncing information back and forth with tech support
    they would ask me "what do you think is wrong with it?"
    lol... what?? support is asking the customer to help fix the problem..
    hahahaha...

    i recommend hostgator..... you will not regret it.
     
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  18. cherryberry

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    You can use Wordpress for user friendly handling and Open cart, Magento or Joomla for making beautiful shopping cart sites as they allow many flexibilities for the users.
     
  19. madoctopus

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    First of all, your developer should have recommended you a solution. If he didn't, he is probably trying to impress you. Also, unless it is a company with more than 5 coders, do not hire this coder. It is impossible to be specialized in all those platforms. He might know all of them, but he is average at best. CodeIgniter & WordPress are "smaller" and easier/faster to learn but Drupal for example is HUGE and very very complex!

    Second, him asking you what you prefer is kinda stupid because each of those platforms is suitable for different purposes and situations and development time and cost varies considerably. A WordPress site could cost $200 to develop, a Drupal site could cost $1000.

    CodeIgniter & Zend - for custom coded sites
    Unless the developer is a newbie or retarded you get best performance (10-40 times faster than the other CMS') and best flexibility - since it is custom coded from scratch you have no limitations. On the down side, if you need something added to the site in the future, you have to hire a coder to create it because you don't have plugins or stuff like that, or even a community behind. For site that are not pure CMS' or difficult to build on top of a CMS, this is the way to go.

    WordPress - if you want a blog or a relatively simple site
    For anything other than a blog, magazine-style site or a site built around articles, I do NOT recommend WordPress. WordPress is NOT a CMS. It is a blog platform. It can be customized to behave to a certain extent like a CMS but it is a piece of crap, poorly designed, poorly architected and poorly developed. Compared to Drupal or even Joomla, WordPress is like a retarded guy in a mental institution compared to a Nobel prize winner. I don't give a rats ass how popular it is or how many people like it here. It is a piece of crap (yes I do use it myself but I am aware of all it's problems and I don't need something more complex than it can handle). It has major SEO-related issues, usability issues, huge performance issues if you run a big site (a lot of content or complex content types) on it, etc. Also it is very difficult to customize in certain areas. On the good site it is very simple to use because it is just a blog platform. You have lots of plugins you can install yourself (though most are just as crappy as WP itself). Development and customizations are cheapest for WordPress from all CMS'.

    Drupal & Joomla - serious CMS platforms for serious sites
    Drupal is the best CMS platform out there. By far! It offers unparalleled flexibility and an exceptional architecture. Joomla is close, but not really that well architected or implemented (still a lot better than WordPress). However, development of a custom Drupal or Joomla site is much more expensive and much more complex. As a matter of fact, while Joomla could be used just with a theme and some plugins out of the box, I think Drupal should never be consider unless you plan to customize it a lot (custom coding). Joomla is relatively easy to manage, Drupal is very difficult to manage (has a gazillion of options and settings and you will feel overwhelmed the first time you login into the admin area). However, if you build a big, complex site like MTV, White House, NASA, Packt Publishing, etc. Drupal is the best choice. One other aspect about Drupal is that it is not recommended to run a Drupal site on shared hosting but on a dedicated server or at least a VPS so that you can fine tune the server for Drupal (more money to spend on this).

    Magento - pure online store
    Magento is a shopping cart platform. Possibly the best shopping cart platform but far from the best CMS if you plan to build a site around articles/news/etc. For example if you want a pure store, go with Magento. You cans till have normal "article" pages but it is not built to be very flexible or potent in that area. Again, this dude that asked you what platform to use should be fired. Why would he suggest Magento and Drupal/WordPress/Joomla in the same sentence for the same project. If you need an article/content-oriented site with a shopping cart, then Drupal has Uber Cart project which is perfect for that (almost as good as Magento itself, certainly as good with heavy customization). Magento is not very expensive to develop on because normally all you need is a theme. If you need massive customization and feature additions to Magento, then Magento is not the platform you want.

    Giving you a comprehensive answer and comparison between all those platforms would require me to write at least 10 pages. It is actually easier if you just tell me what kind of site you need, what features it should have and about 5 sites that look and have the functionality you need. Then I can suggest you the best approach.

    Again, you should seriously consider not hiring this developer, that is the first piece of advice I can give you.
     
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  20. avondezyn

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    i suggest you go for word press for a simple and user friendly website. and you can use magento or opencart for a e-commerce platform as they are very user friendly.