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Was making $3,500 a month using short-term methods. Help point me in the right direction, anyone?

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by Dbo11tlo, Jul 4, 2016.

  1. Dbo11tlo

    Dbo11tlo Newbie

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    Hello forum! I'm new here, and I'm sorry if it's bad etiquette to ask a question without having helped anyone else first.

    To anyone interested, here's how I made roughly $3,500 consistently for around a year.
    Now, I am not advising you do this, as it does involve methods I'm sure are not supported by the forum. I'm just explaining how I did things.. and how it all ultimately came to an end. All in hopes someone can guide me with some tips, if you wish to do so!

    I built a website where I resell fiver gigs in a specific niche. ALL my sales were made from email campaigns using emails I scraped from Twitter bios. (In a way, this is spam, but targeted spam, if that makes sense - All users did post their email on there to be contacted. I'm not trying to justify spamming, but just saying). There was no SEO involved, no google ads, nothing.

    My list was around 100,000 emails. I was sending around 2,000 emails per campaign, which would equal to around $500 in sales. Through it, by the end of the month I was making an average of $3,500. I was selling the product for $25.

    I'm not sure if I'm just a lucky kid, or maybe those numbers are actually horrible, as I'm aware some of you guys make 20k+ a month. But, to me, I have the feeling that this website can be so much more with the numbers it is bringing (or WAS bringing)

    Like I said, all emails were scraped. Eventually most mass emailing companies (like mailchimp, mailerlite, sendinblue, etc) all caught on to it, giving me no where else to go. I'm not savvy enough to do my own mass emailing. Also, I'd like to do things in a more legitimate, long-term way! I've learned my lesson.

    Long story short, my business went from making $3,500 a month, to almost nothing, as all I know is email sales using scraped leads. But to you experienced people out there, if I'm able to make the money I did, does that mean my business has big potential if ran with the right knowledge?

    With your knowledge that you're willing to share, what would you do in my situation? What would you advise to learn? Having a business that you know can clear sales, just being ran by someone with no experience.



    Sorry for the wall of text! Excited to hear responses. And if there is anything I can do to give back to the forum, let me know.
     
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  2. th3mehdi

    th3mehdi Junior Member

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    hello sir pm ere or skype somaca7
     
  3. Liboicl

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    It sounds like you had a good model going. I'd say keep going the way you were. I can help with the mass mailing. Skype me: Liboicl
     
  4. qazer101

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    Two guys quick to hop on the "free help, add my skype" train.

    I'd advise building an authority type website in the niche you're targeting, and send your mass emails to there. There you could make product sales, affiliate commissions and AdSense payments (not sure on AdSense's stance on sending spam emails linking to a website - you'll have to research that.) Once you've done the hard part and started getting traffic, you can stop the email spamming and transition to a purely white hat business.

    Have you tried AWS and a program like Sendy?

    Good luck, there's definitely a lot of money in email scraping and blasting if you do it right.
     
  5. Jacksss

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    Spam is a part of life nowadays and if you were making money from it, more power to you. Looks like the people that bought the product were actually happy to do so, so don't beat yourself up about ethics. Find a way to keep e-mailing people and keep banking. Obviously your product/site has potential since you are generating sales, so you should try learning other methods for promoting it like social media and SEO - you'll find a bunch of ideas on this forum. Just keep working, keep iterating and keep banking, good luck from me!
     
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  7. fmbaba01

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    You made all that and still complain? I wish i can make half of that a month.
    Well i have nothing really to say than appealed to gurus here to help you.
     
  8. Cool Guy

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    May I know how you scraped those emails?
     
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    could anyone please tell me how o send bulk emails?
     
  10. uncutu

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    Make a Twitter page for your business. Instead of sending an email to those users you scraped, send them a follow request. When those guys accept, send a DM with what your email sales template.
     
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  11. tripartist1

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    I'm going to second the website approach. Build a website targeting your niche. Continue with your email scraping, but send them to your niche site. On your niche site, you should have several services available for sale (try to have as many recurring services and less one offs) similar or related to the one you currently have. Also, outsource some articles, and try to get regular content posted, maybe 3 articles a day ($15, which should be nothing compared to your income). Now, to keep your customers, here's what you do. On your niche site, require BOTH a social media share and a subscription to your mailing listing before allowing full access. Give them a minute or so to browse around, then hit them with a pop up asking for it. What this will do is require every new user to give you permission to email them with offers, as well as possibly generate new leads due to the social media share, as well as build backlinks, which is good to grow organic traffic, AND build you an organic email listing without scraping. Eventually, you'll hit a point when you're getting a lot of new subscribers, and it might be hard to keep up. I suggest contacting the fiverr gigs you're reselling and proposing to hire them on full time to work for your site. Pay them more than they would make on fiverr and I'm sure they'd be happy to join in. At this point you're pretty much building an actual company in your niche. Hire a professional web designer to redesign your site, get some ad services, etc.

    I'm new to IM, but I've also been lurking here and other places for years. This is personally what I would do if I was in your situation.
     
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  12. Scraper9

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    Some funny advises in this thread. OP you need a way to keep sending those emails. There are 2 main routes:

    1. Invest time and learn how to do setup on your own. There are several ways to do that...
    2. Pay someone to do the setup for you, or rent a ready setup on subscription plan. You can check the marketplace here, as far as I remember there are few services of that kind.
     
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  13. THUNDERELVI

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    Keep doing what you were doing, it obviously works and you already have experience in that business model and niche. Can't you create more accounts with the mass emailing companies you were using and churn & burn accounts with them on a monthly basis until you exhaust all your email lists? What's currently stopping you from doing that?
     
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    OP what do you mean the mass emailing companies caught on and scraped your email lists? They basically took all your email leads for themselves? And how did you know they got scraped?
     
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    He meant the companies caught on and banned him lol not took the leads for themselves. The scraping was done on Twitter by the OP.
     
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  16. Dbo11tlo

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    Good question! I did try to recreate accounts, but somehow, everything I made would get auto-banned before I even sent a first campaign. At first, I thought it'd be my IP, so I used a vpn. It didn't work.. Instant bans all around! So, then I figured it could straight up be my domain name I was using. Maybe they blacklisted it, so I bought a new one just to change things up a bit.. Instant ban several times. I'm guessing it could be the actual list of emails that the system picks up and just connects it with my old banned accounts. Who knows though! Thanks a lot for your reply, by the way. I appreciate it
     
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    Yes, I was looking at the marketplace earlier. I'll have to look into it today! Thanks for your reply. Nice and simple! Appreciated.
     
  18. Dbo11tlo

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    Haha, I can see where you're coming from. :)
    I didn't mean to sound as if I was complaining - But I guess I got caught up in consistent income that I actually made it my main income source. In other words, this is all I have to fall back on. That rent ain't easy!
    Thanks for the response. And yes, the gurus are coming through with helpful info!
     
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    Very interesting, as I too had a similar method but I never acted on it. OP Are there no legal risks to this except being banned? To everyone encouraging OP are spam laws not enforced?
     
  20. Dbo11tlo

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    I'm sure there's someone with more information on this subject, but to me it seemed a bit tricky to consider it straight up spam (Which in the states is illegal). The leads I scraped, I made sure were all from people that had these keywords/phrase in it: "For business inquiries contact me at: <email here> " I'm not sure if that is a loophole, but the emails I sent weren't truly unsolicited. They posted their email on their profile for the purpose of being contacted with business inquiries/related. And that's what I did!

    I rarely got reported as spam, all replies to my email campaigns were positive (despite them not signing up for any list).
    In other words, I sent "mass spam" for a year with no problems. It was super targeted, I guess that's what I'm trying to say. Most people would actually welcome and reply with thanks for my "mass spam". Hehe.

    But yes, definitely seek advice from someone with more knowledge on the actual laws of it!

    Also, sorry if this is looked down on by the forum and shouldn't be spoken of. I'm not giving advice on how to do it. Just explaining how I did it myself.