[TUTORIAL] Auto-Fill and Submit CPA Forms

Let's say I have a large database of emails, and decent traffic volume. It seems to me that I ought to be able to simply use a variation of your technique to sometimes submit, and sometimes just generate a click to the offer.

Any advice on that?
 
Let's say I have a large database of emails, and decent traffic volume. It seems to me that I ought to be able to simply use a variation of your technique to sometimes submit, and sometimes just generate a click to the offer.

Any advice on that?
Yes you just need to rotate frames! ;)
 
This is nice,really need to test this,and learn more about injection,etc!
Useful with many thinks,not only CPA!Thanks!
 
Let's say I have a large database of emails, and decent traffic volume. It seems to me that I ought to be able to simply use a variation of your technique to sometimes submit, and sometimes just generate a click to the offer.

Any advice on that?
Yes, you would just use PHP to determine when to append the injection. The way I do it is to store the injection in a variable and the original URL in another. Then determine whether or not to append the injection. Say you wanted to auto-submit a third of the time:
PHP:
<?
$url = "http://www.mycooloffer.com/offer.php?ad=9038&id=2882&pb=383";
$injection = '"><script-stuff-here>';
$randNum = rand(0, 2) // pick # between 0 - 2 (0, 1, 2 possible)
// if randNum is 1 (should be 1/3 time), append injection, else leave url
$frameSrc = ($randNum == 1) ? $url . $injection : $url;
echo '<iframe src=\'' . $frameSrc . '\' width=\'1\' height=\'1\' scrolling=\'no\' frameborder=\'0\'></iframe>';
?>
 
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sounds nice BUT is this all not considered as fraud??? what if the CPA network founds out in any way and takes legal action against you????????
 
ouch! so why do guys keep doing this? wanna end up in jail?? :confused:

Well, I doubt anyone would end up in jail, more than likely the only thing that will happen is they will lose their accounts. This does leave them open to civil action if you get an affiliate company that wants to take it there.

This does however make it more difficult for legit marketers, as affiliate companies will put more stringent rules on acceptance into their networks, and who is able to run certain offers.
 
Theres other problems with this which would lead to not getting paid anyway

1) no lead would ever have the 2nd page completed with the name and address details which email submit offers have.
2) also no lead would ever back out for the advertiser meaning you will be reported by the advertiser. leading to blacklisting and more and likely not being paid.
 
Of course it can be construed as fraud. However, that really depends on what you consider fraud and what you are willing to do on a network. Many, many people frame e-mail submits and place them in content lockers. The difference is that content lockers allow people to choose whether or not to fill out the input, so therefore it is considered blackhat and not fraud.

However, the same exact numbers can be produced:
"Blackhat" - A content locker pops up for every visit. 23% of people fill this out. So say there are 1000 visits. 230 turn into blackhat leads.

"Fraud" - 1000 visits come to a site, but this time, you are able to choose your conversion percentage. Say you choose 23%. So the exact same number of leads are produced, but by a different method. So one is fraud and not the other?

A lot of blackhat can be considered fraud. Craigslist positing is fraud because you are not really offering what you say you are. E-whoring is fraud because you're not actually trying to pick up guys to "show them a good time." Most blackhat is fraud, that's why it's black.
 
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So one is fraud and not the other?

Ummm, yeah, one is fraud and the other is not. One method consists of actual people filling out the offer, and the other is essentially you filling out the offer with your own or fake email addresses. Can you guess which one is fraudulent???

Additionally, many networks allow you to use content lockers. You will never find one that lets you use this method. (Unless of course it's this guy http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...41-cpa-diamonds-scam-wnrwnrchickendinner.html)
 
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This type of behaviour is considered as fraud :) Try to build legal methods !
 
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Ummm, yeah, one is fraud and the other is not. One method consists of actual people filling out the offer, and the other is essentially you filling out the offer with your own or fake email addresses. Can you guess which one is fraudulent???

Additionally, many networks allow you to use content lockers. You will never find one that lets you use this method. (Unless of course it's this guy http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/shit-list/279341-cpa-diamonds-scam-wnrwnrchickendinner.html)
That would be a valid argument if the e-mails were, indeed, fake. They are not, however.
 
Yep I mean it sounds really good and I can understand that you can make big money with that kinda thing but it is way more "blackhat" (or lets say ILLEGAL) than an iframed email submit...

As one of the posters said before, with the OP's method YOU are the one who is filling the offers with fake emails whereas at iframing the user type in his REAL email adress!

I am not ballsy enough to try that out to be honest - am to anxious to get busted or something like that and end up in court ..

at OP: what would be the worst case scneario if you would get busted?? just curious
 
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It's fraudulent either way, whether you are using your own email addresses, or others.

Find me one network that is ok with this.
 
As one of the posters said before, with the OP's method YOU are the one who is filling the offers with fake emails whereas at iframing the user type in his REAL email adress!
Please refer to the post...directly above your post.
 
It's fraudulent either way, whether you are using your own email addresses, or others.

Find me one network that is ok with this.
If you know even the slightest bit of coding (and I would assume someone who can create a fake yet valid e-mail string has coding knowledge), you could easily just get the user's real e-mail and auto-submit it rather than creating a fake e-mail, presumably through a sliced MD5 hash and a randomly chosen valid domain, so it is prudent to take five extra minutes to get a real e-mail address. No where in my original post did I suggest using fake e-mails. If that is your assumption, you need to learn how to effectively expand on an idea or method rather than resorting to the obvious. The limitations of the method are your technical expertise.

Also, find me one network that is okay with a user "putting in his own e-mail" into an "iframed e-mail submit" that will never convert on the backend, but that's okay because he "put in his own e-mail."
 
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Please refer to the post...directly above your post.


hmm okay i don't know what to say hehe because when i'm rethinking what you've said-

it really doesn't make THAT difference whether someone enters his email in an iframed offer or if you let it autofill also with a valid email -> both won't convert at the end for the network so it doesn't really make a difference...

however i don't know why but the autofill thing feels wrong - i'm also too anxious as much as i would like to try that...

artizhay, i added you recently on skype would you mind to come online there? :)
 
You don't have to use it the same way. The method is just a vehicle for the code showing how these things are done from a coding perspective. For example it can also be used to mask some ugly template which negatively impacts the conversion ratio just because it looks bad.
 
but thinking this way or argumenting this way could also lead to this question:

if someone writes a bot with proxy switching and autofilling, it would be the same in that aspect :/
 
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