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Shaving shaving shaving!!!

Discussion in 'CPA' started by hsk2012, Jun 21, 2011.

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  1. hsk2012

    hsk2012 Newbie

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    Hey Everyone..

    This is my first post in BHW but Ive been visiting this site for six months now and had been told by my so called AMs to stay away from BHW!! yeah yeah I know I acted accordingly-STUPID!!

    Anyway, I wanted to just say thank you to everyone for being just so helpful in IM and supporting people.

    Shaving and Lead Scrubs!!!
    I has like 250 clicks yesterday and around 80 conversions on a dating offer from Wolf Storm and when I logged into my dashboard it showed 5!!!!! I was shell shocked!!

    And now Im wondering how people make like 3k a day on CPA networks.

    Please help!!!
    Thanks in advance :)
     
  2. TheRealRazzy

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    It's good to see you came to the "dark side" lol :)

    I wish I could help you out with CPA networks but I don't use them much. But I'm sure there are plenty of people here that would more than willingly give you some good advice on how to get your profits higher and higher each day :)
     
  3. hsk2012

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    Thanks for being so thoughtful :)
     
  4. crespozooooo

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    Every CPA company is shaving, so it's pretty hard to make 3k per day with CPA. Maybe if you are promoting offers that get you like $50-$100 per lead and you get a lot of conversions.
    But it's also a good thing that they shave, because if they wouldn't, more and more people would make lots of money from CPAs and this type of promotion would get saturated pretty fast.
    Because of shaving (even if they don't know about it), more than 95% of CPA newbies give up on this money-making method and try something else.
     
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    Thats quite fucked up indeed. I think you should try some other networks too and see if the offer converts better on them.

    Making more money is just numbers game. ofcource shaving and scrubbing makes it lots harder but more traffic = more leads.
     
  6. GarrettWinthrop

    GarrettWinthrop Registered Member

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    So did it say that you had 80 conversions at one point on your dashboard and then you logged out and back in later and it was down to 5? Or is there some other method you are using to determine how many conversions you should have had?
     
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    yes same things , you track it or you see in dashboard ? I know many network is shaving but i still make good money with them ,In return I get their trust and protection :D
     
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    Ya sounds like OP got some friends together and signed up 250 times with proxies... Not only did were you shaved, you'll definitely be banned if that's the case...
     
  9. hsk2012

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    Hey thanks for the feedback...

    I am using the prosper 202 and hence I can track the results but not on the dashboard. I don't know I tried a few other offers from Wolfstorm and just forwarded links to my friend to test whether it was converting or not- hah!! Would you believe not a single conversion!!! Whats wrong with Wolf Storm????

    I didn't actually give him the links by email, i forwarded him my landing page containing the link to the offer.

    Wolf Storm has angered me to no end
     
  10. dennisyu

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    what is your traffic source?
     
  11. GarrettWinthrop

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    Are you using prosper202 tracking pixel / postback url? Because I haven't been able to get that thing to work for the life of me. It just doesn't end up tracking anything. I must be doing something wrong I gather, but I haven't really tried so hard to troubleshoot that.
     
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    Fake your traffic
    Work with good companies like maxbounty, azoogle vs.
    Don't go too fast in a short time (lots of leads in short time)
    Do blackhat in a good way. (many methods print footprints)
     
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    Aah If only I knew how fake traffic...

    My traffic source was my Facebook groups and fanpages.:newangel:
     
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    Facebook groups and fan pages. Did I go wrong somewhere?:eek:
     
  15. GarrettWinthrop

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    Well, if the offers you are promoting allow social traffic then you shouldn't have to fake anything. If you want to use social traffic with offers that don't allow it then you'd want to fake your traffic source (using either cpa-redirector or referer.us which a lot of people seem to use).

    But if you're not doing anything 'bad' then don't worry about it (unless you just don't want AMs to see what you're doing. Some people are paranoid about their methods getting stolen and whatnot, and maybe they should be. Who knows.)
     
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    Yeah something tells me all of your leads were fake, shaving is necessary due to shitty affiliates ^^ ;) Have fun getting banned
     
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    Shaving is a way of life for most CPAS not all but most.The trick is to keep looking for the right companies.Also think the ad companies work the same way by shaving off the CPA.It has become so ok to rip people off there are getting used to it and say its just how it is.So as long as they cheat us we find ways of making the system work for us.It is a never ending game with them you just need to be smarter than them.
    Dizz
     
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    shaving is part of the game unfortunely.

    Figure out how to monetize the lead more than once to offset the scrubs.
     
  19. GarrettWinthrop

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    If you're running a content locker you can always make them fill out 2 offers (if your content is that good) to unlock the content. Otherwise I imagine it would be difficult to 'double-dip' them for an extra email submit/lead conversion, although I haven't given it a whole bunch of thought. People have a real short attention span as it is, and that might be asking too much. If someone is iframing then it's easy, just redirect in-frame to another offer with the text 'please verify your email address one more time' above it. You won't get every first lead to fill out the 2nd, but most will.
     
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    I know youve heard this one before... money is in the data.

    Copy the landing page of your top performing email submit and collect the emails yourself
    with something like aweber or icontact. Some networks allow you to host and post the offer yourself also.