Scrapebox Noob: I am scared

my advice in a nutshell...

buy the software.
and instead of promoting you site directly, put out articles to directorys and other blogs, and start spamming those with sb.

you can get used to the software and try suff without risk, if an article goes belly up, it doesn`t matter, your site is safe. but you learned what not to do and move on

also articles on big sites are far less likely to get a penalty from google because they have so much authority and linkbuilding activity every day, it wont even stand out.

your links in the articles wil get more powerfull, and will pas a lot of juive over to your site.

if you target and optimize your articles correctly, they will drive traffic to your site instantly and rank easily, no need to wait weeks to rank and potentially lose traffic alltogether because of he sandbox effect.
even if your site gets sandboxed, you`ll still get traffic from all the articles out there that do have first page rankings and send people to your site.


also read the forum, there are lots of threads on here about how to use it properly.
just going wild and spam the hell out of your site like an caveman will only hurt you,
if you do it wisely and stay under the radar, scrape box will be your best friend, lover, misstres and third jerkoff hand bundled bundled together for a long time.
Example: http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...ethod-improve-scrapebox-comment-approval.html

also, in my opinion, dump adsense alltogether and build a list instead from your traffic.

read this for inspiration: http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...w-i-made-682-one-day-keep-getting-paid-3.html

this will put you over the 10k a month mark realy fast if you are dedicated and not afraid of some hard work.,..

i rarely use indian workers. ok they are cheap, but they are only usefull for certain things (boring tasks that are hard to automate), but real seo work isn`t one of them unfortionatly... the only thing i outsource is article writing, and i use fluent english people only. they are more expensive, but of much higher quality and because of that, more profitable in the end.
building links is the easy part once you get the hang of it and know how to use the tools availeble to you.

the only skills you need to become a great online marekteer are the power to sell and how to be a great manager.... and if you plan to use seo instead of paid traffic, you`ll also need to know how to build links fast an effectivly offcourse....
but i know for a fact that the people who make the most money, only buy traffic. and hardly use seo. because its just to time consuming and a lot of work to constantly keep up with google and their changes in their algos all the time..

greetz roger

roger that was awesome, do forgive if I send a pee-emm one day.

so what do you mean 'spam' the articles? you mean blog commenting with links to the articles?

You sound pretty desperate and maybe a quick black hat "fix" isn't what you need. Also don't be surprised if you do get slapped. I wouldn't use scrapebox on a dependable site. Go test it on a little crap site and see what works/what doesn't.

If you are using the Xfator method and still need to do any off page SEO to rank your sites then your keyword research is Fd up.

I have quite a few of these sites as they are fun to build in my spare time and none of them have more than 20 links and they are all on the first page.

The key is proper keyword research.. Learn this and you wont need anything else..

remove adsense code for a few days, do the blasts, do whatever you want, wait for most of the links to index & rank higher, than remove adsense.

It's not like you are going to lose a lot of $$$.

And it's better than doing it with the code on site

Gary Becks said:

If you are using the Xfator method and still need to do any off page SEO to rank your sites then your keyword research is Fd up.

I have quite a few of these sites as they are fun to build in my spare time and none of them have more than 20 links and they are all on the first page.

The key is proper keyword research.. Learn this and you wont need anything else..

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I get keywords that have 5-10,000 exact searches per month, as X factor recommends. I have just started off page SEO as best I can, article submissions, social bookmarking and blog commenting. It has been about a week and my sites are not ranking at all on Google yet. I've never got any results in the past with SEO so I kinda don't "believe" it can work.

Italian Hawk -- yes, I am impatient, pretty much because I am living in my parents house and they have been pressuring me for 4 years to get out. I've been trying to start my own businesses for about 2 years but they have all failed.

jb2008 said:

I get keywords that have 5-10,000 exact searches per month, as X factor recommends. I have just started off page SEO as best I can, article submissions, social bookmarking and blog commenting. It has been about a week and my sites are not ranking at all on Google yet. I've never got any results in the past with SEO so I kinda don't "believe" it can work.
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A week is not nearly enough time, especially if you've got no experience being successful with SEO. It is possible but not likely for a beginner.

G won't even find all your links in a week, let alone rank your site.

If this is a new site or basically these are your first real backlinks, set a more realistic timeframe like 3 months. If you rank sooner consider it gravy.

jb2008 said:

I get keywords that have 5-10,000 exact searches per month, as X factor recommends. I have just started off page SEO as best I can, article submissions, social bookmarking and blog commenting. It has been about a week and my sites are not ranking at all on Google yet. I've never got any results in the past with SEO so I kinda don't "believe" it can work.

Italian Hawk -- yes, I am impatient, pretty much because I am living in my parents house and they have been pressuring me for 4 years to get out. I've been trying to start my own businesses for about 2 years but they have all failed.

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At least your honest..

I'll give you a piece of advise, if you want to get out of your parents house anytime soon don't waste your time with adsense..

You have been givin a lot of good advice on here... but if you are an impatient person and expect things to happen in a day or two, than SEO is defiantly not for you.... whether Black Hat or White Hat....

Even though I am new to this forum I have been doing IM for almost a year now. I still have a full time regular job to pay the bills. This is because I know that no matter how I approach IM/SEO its going to take time to see some decent money from it.

Gary, what should I do then if not adsense?

Do not spam Wordpress blogs unless you know what you are doing.

jb2008 said:

Gary, what should I do then if not adsense?

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Use affiliate programs, CPA, or even Ebay.

You can totally point your visitors to want to click on these offers without having to worry about bans.

Sara, can you recommend any affiliate programs?

Dude, what kind of niches are you trying to rank?

Seriously man, with the right niche, you can easily take a blank wordpress blog to page #1 of Google by just writing the main keyword in the title. Let the domain age for a few months, then start making your site - if you choose your keywords well, you could rank no.1 within 3 weeks.

Low competition. That's it. Just pick out very, very low competition niches. It doesn't matter if the site will make you just $30 per month - you can sell it at Flippa for $300+ and reinvest the money into other sites.

I think the "give me the exact names and methods of everything I need to do" mentality is part of your problem. I too have been in this game for a couple years, and it's the ability to sit back, think things over, and figure out the best course of action... or better yet, come up with a unique course of action that maybe no one else has tried, that's what leads to $.

And when people do that; put in the time and work to come up with a plan, they aren't really inclined to give that hard earned information away just because someone asked for it on a forum.

So when someone says "I wouldn't use adsense", or "use an affiliate program", that should be enough to get you to begin your research, instead of hoping for someone to tell you exactly what to use instead of adsense, etc.

Give a man a fish, he eats for a day...

I went over board I'd say with scrapebox and my domain is fine, its listed, and more urls get listed in google everyday.

neverblue, i had a really awesome post but the moderation system is breaking my balls here.

You should forget about working on your sites for now man, and take the next couple weeks to learn as much as you can. For as long as you have been trying, you are still pretty far behind. It seems like you just slapped together whatever you could figure out and dumped money onto it.

I personally think you should buy the course "niche blueprint 2.0" and start your own e-commerce store. If you did your research and found a good keyword with at least 800-1,000 exact searches a day, there is no doubt in my mind in 3 months from now you could be earning well over $100 a day. Adsense CAN be a full time income but you really have to know what you are doing, and it makes more sense to me to build a BIG niche site that makes you 50-100 a day rather than 50 tiny sites that bring in 3 dollars a day each.

Anyways, good luck.. but please spend a bunch more time learning before you move forward with anything else. SEO DOES WORK, but you need to look at your competition first. Use Market Samurai to check the backlinks of the 1-10 positions and see if they are optimized for the keywords. Most of the time you will find that they maybe have 10 backlinks with the anchor text you are trying to rank for, and they are actually pretty easy to beat.

Dustin, peace to you brother , you speak the truth . How it hurts to admit that I did get carried away and rushed things without calming down first and LEARNING. Many of my mistakes I've been able to correct but some, alas, are irreversible.

I will go through your recommendation.

I feel I have learned so much by just trying but without the starting capital I can go nowhere, that's why I've begun with adsense due to low startup costs, hoping to work my way up.