Remote iPhone Service

JJsmith said:
This is true if you have offices in different cities across the country. for local marketers it's important to have ip's in different locations and even though restarting your iPhone will get you a new ip it will still be in the same location you are in.

Regarding GPS you can disable that and I don't see it as a problem. 3rd party apps can't have access to your GPS location if it's disabled. I haven't found a better way to perform local marketing, Facebook, etc on a scale with a computer in the long run. Computers are much easier to identify than an iPhone
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IP's in different locations can be done through proxy if needed, I don't need to have offices in every city. That's just marketing bullshit you're putting out to convince people that they can't do it in house.

GPS... 3rd party apps certainly can have access even if disabled. There are hacks. Even if you use only legit software, they can pull location from the cell towers. Chances are you haven't disabled JavaScript and there's a whole lot of info you can pull from an iPhone using JavaScript (remember JavaScript /= Java).

Computers can be easier to identify but if you aren't a complete newb then you're still better off with a computer and open source system where you can actually make sure it's not doing anything behind the scenes. iOS is closed so you have no way of knowing for sure what's happening.
 
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JJsmith said:
By using an iPhone with real 4G ip's like a regular user we are making sure this is 100% normal user behavior and there is no way, ever, that google or any other service can block us or identify it's not a normal user accessing their site or app.
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Well, I'm going to nope out of this conversation. If you seriously believe what you just said, you're in for one heck of a surprise. Good luck.
 
SirSmash said:
IP's in different locations can be done through proxy if needed, I don't need to have offices in every city. That's just marketing bullshit you're putting out to convince people that they can't do it in house.

GPS... 3rd party apps certainly can have access even if disabled. There are hacks. Even if you use only legit software, they can pull location from the cell towers. Chances are you haven't disabled JavaScript and there's a whole lot of info you can pull from an iPhone using JavaScript (remember JavaScript /= Java).

Computers can be easier to identify but if you aren't a complete newb then you're still better off with a computer and open source system where you can actually make sure it's not doing anything behind the scenes. iOS is closed so you have no way of knowing for sure what's happening.
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Regarding proxies - That's true but then again you are using a proxy that in no way get close to the ip you get from a regular phone connected to a cell tower.

Regarding GPS - There is no way for 3rd party apps to get your GPS location. Of course they can get the city you are in but this is exactly what we want to happen... We want to be a regular mobile user in a city to perform actions as a regular user.

There is no marketing bulshit as I don't even offer the service at the moment. The only inaccurate information here is your claim that connecting to a proxy from your iPhone is anywhere close to connecting to a phone that's using an ip from a cell tower in the city of your choice.
 
SirSmash said:
Well, I'm going to nope out of this conversation. If you seriously believe what you just said, you're in for one heck of a surprise. Good luck.
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Been doing this for couple of years now and it works like a charm
 
I am talking about using the 4g IP from the phone and turning it into a back connect proxy.
 
How many yelp reviews can you do per phone? What other uses can this service achieve and at what scalability PER phone? Im very interested but I would definitely like to know more.
 
NxtGenLedz said:
I am talking about using the 4g IP from the phone and turning it into a back connect proxy.
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That's possible but using bluestacks is not as secure for use with google in my opinion and regarding other services I don't know how safe is the phone's UDID. We might do that for none google use cases but honestly we didn't test it yet so can't know how good it will be for the long run. I might run a quick test and get back to you with results in couple of weeks. This might be good for scenarios where you want to have a set amount of accounts open and use them (like for yelp where you want your account to remain active and post couple of reviews per week)
 
NxtGenLedz said:
How many yelp reviews can you do per phone? What other uses can this service achieve and at what scalability PER phone? Im very interested but I would definitely like to know more.
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You can do as many as you want.
For yelp you probably want to setup different users to maintain the app running on each user with different cookies, etc (otherwise your reviews will get filtered)

It's all depends on what you want to do. For things you want to maintain the same user and access it over and over again I would create a separate user on the phone but for creating GMB pages, reviews, etc simply clearing all cache, cookies, etc and switching Ip should be enough so you can create virtually unlimited amount
 
JJsmith said:
This might be good for other things but for google / Facebook / yelp / etc ip's will get banned quickly, reviews will get deleted, and GMB places will be deleted, etc

By using an iPhone with real 4G ip's like a regular user we are making sure this is 100% normal user behavior and there is no way, ever, that google or any other service can block us or identify it's not a normal user accessing their site or app.

Regarding bluestack - while this can be used for non google services it's still not as secure as using a real iPhone. The only way to get close to a real iPhone is to setup multiple accounts with separate UDIDs but this will not be as smooth for the user as simply using an iPhone.

like I wrote earlier, we might offer android version of our service (which obviously will be cheaper) for people that don't want to use it for google but we are personally won't use it as I believe the saving in price doesn't worth the lower quality and being able to act 100% like a regular local mobile user without any way of detection
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You can change Google Advertising IDs with Droid. I farm Adwords accs, it works fine. Droids would just need to be preloaded with xposed Framework, rooted, etc.

We use VMs with Droid ISOs, its a solid set up, but runs slow at times since we have 500 active at any given time.

I may suggest a feature to also create VPN connections which can be used inside of VM containers to manage Campaigns, because Account Farmers will be your largest customers and will need to repurpose those $85 per week plans to work with many accs.
 
Will I be able to run multiple Facebook accounts & threads with it?
 
SirSmash said:
The pricing is what gets me... $85/week for iPhone 5.

I can buy a used iPhone 5 on eBay for under a hundred bucks and add it as another line, with unlimited data, for $20/month. You want $12.14 per day [for iPhone 5] so after just 9.8 days it becomes cheaper to do everything in house plus I gain the ability to just reach over and use the phone rather than use TeamViewer. I can restart the phone anytime I want for a new IP. -- Your recurring monthly cost is $340 but after 9.8 days it costs me $20/month to run in house, saves me $320 a month.

Even if I go with an iPhone 7 it becomes cheaper to run in house after 3 weeks. I just can't see anyone paying $140/week.

As far as fingerprinting, there are better ways. iPhones might be easy but it's certainly not the best way to browse anonymously. If you want to stay anonymous, you sure as hell don't use a device with GPS capability.
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So do it.
 
JJsmith said:
We didn't start yet. As I mentioned we are using it in-house and considering starting to offer it as a service if there is enough demand.
We currently have iPhones in New York, Atlanta, and Miami
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Have you started yet ? If you have il rent 3 lines from you to start with
 
Hi man, may I know if this pushed through? If not, what made you decide not to continue this?
 
the price is crazy. They only need your IP, dont need your phone actually. There is a way they can work around. By using LD player /Android phone connecting to a 4G rotating proxy.
 
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