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Q & A - Cold Email Marketing
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ThorTheSwedishViking
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Thank you for your quick reply, appreciate it, SKÅL!
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After reading couple of replies from OP they really look like ChatGPT in this case he can open another thread for theory or relativity and solving those equations too
Everyone is master in every topic now thanks to AI.
Cheers
Hamasiach Neggi
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Do you create your own smtp or something...? How do you start...?
Exxtra
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I've yet to see any of that in here...
I add an extra secondary domain
It seem every secondary domain you need to pay 6 dollars per month extra
so 75 domains you need to pay 75X6 dollars,
something wrong?
shahogen
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The plans are $6/month per email per domain so the $6/month is correct. If you have 75 email accounts then that will be 75 x $6 = $450/month assuming that you have a single email account with each domain name.
If you can't afford this at this current time then you can use free @gmail.com accounts but the trust level won't be as high and there can be issues when trying to login to various gmail accounts back to back when setting up campaigns to begin with.
I would recommend the $6/month per email option and just start slow if needed and you can always work up until you have the amount of emails that you need to bring in the amount of leads you need on a daily/weekly/monthly basis.
uncutu
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i guess you can take it as a compliment when people think it's all chatgpt
lots of ppl here struggling to make $100 a day. when they see $36k a month its out of the realm of possibility
congrats on the success and thanks for not losing your mind on the replies
lots of ppl here struggling to make $100 a day. when they see $36k a month its out of the realm of possibility
congrats on the success and thanks for not losing your mind on the replies
shahogen
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Yes, I should take this as a compliment that everyone thinks this is a chatgpt bot hahaha thanks for the positive feedback!
PovertyStricken369
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I have some questions about Cold Email in general:
What doesn't make sense is some of the following:
1) I don't understand how to exactly apply this beyond the most obvious niche, which I imagine is heavily saturated by now, being lead generation for digital marketers finding e-commerce websites to use their services.
2) Are people sending clients contract agreements through DocuSign or similar tools? I.E. A digital marketing company agrees to my offer for $500/month retainer and $250 per lead/meeting call I set up for them. If making a contract is standard what would a basic template look like or where would I find one. Are there specific details that are crucial to be included?
3) How are people sending invoices to their clients that accept their offers? Just through Paypal? What would it say? Lead generation services or just maybe your business name etc. Basically I don't know how to send a professional invoice or who provides that service.
Based on the Cold Email Mastery course, because it has to be personalized, you can't really send 10s of thousands of emails in a month right? Its more like hundreds to low thousands.
4) My question pertaining to the paragraph above is can you apply this system/method in a way that is slightly less personalized but sending more volume?
I understand you are selling the call and not the product with the email, then you sell the product/offer once you have them on the line. Could you sell various data products/software plugins via affiliate essentially? I don't have any issue doing the sales calls but I did kind of want to start smaller and perfect the motions of the system so when I'm eventually doing a call I'm confident in my methods and have experience.
5) There is a software plugin highly rated I have a pitch for that I could get around $10 per month per conversion and according to Built With there are around 16,000 businesses that would be easy targets. How doable would it be to get say 150 converts with less personalized cold emails?
Any discussion is appreciated.
What doesn't make sense is some of the following:
1) I don't understand how to exactly apply this beyond the most obvious niche, which I imagine is heavily saturated by now, being lead generation for digital marketers finding e-commerce websites to use their services.
2) Are people sending clients contract agreements through DocuSign or similar tools? I.E. A digital marketing company agrees to my offer for $500/month retainer and $250 per lead/meeting call I set up for them. If making a contract is standard what would a basic template look like or where would I find one. Are there specific details that are crucial to be included?
3) How are people sending invoices to their clients that accept their offers? Just through Paypal? What would it say? Lead generation services or just maybe your business name etc. Basically I don't know how to send a professional invoice or who provides that service.
Based on the Cold Email Mastery course, because it has to be personalized, you can't really send 10s of thousands of emails in a month right? Its more like hundreds to low thousands.
4) My question pertaining to the paragraph above is can you apply this system/method in a way that is slightly less personalized but sending more volume?
I understand you are selling the call and not the product with the email, then you sell the product/offer once you have them on the line. Could you sell various data products/software plugins via affiliate essentially? I don't have any issue doing the sales calls but I did kind of want to start smaller and perfect the motions of the system so when I'm eventually doing a call I'm confident in my methods and have experience.
5) There is a software plugin highly rated I have a pitch for that I could get around $10 per month per conversion and according to Built With there are around 16,000 businesses that would be easy targets. How doable would it be to get say 150 converts with less personalized cold emails?
Any discussion is appreciated.
wolfman1
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Who cares?
There are so many Karen’s in these threads. It’s incredible to behold.
I for one can’t wait to signup for OP’s service.
It willaddress many of the shortcomings of the overpriced and underpowered cold email platforms out there …
Having spent hundreds of hours learning about cold email, I know the OP has already mastered it.
There are so many noobs coming into his threads accusing him of being a ChatGPT bot, or having no real-world experience.
So many complainers and whiners. Such a waste of my time …
Another poster, who owns a soon to be competitng cold email tool, coming into the thread and saying dumb shit like “Oh you know there are already tools that do all that!”.
No dipshit. Your tool sucks. I’ve tried it. So many limitations.
That’s why OP built his own ffs! You should back him up!
Idiots talking about sending a million emails a day … that’s called SPAMMING.
Cold email is a more refined, laser targeted approach to getting people on a call.
This is the WORST part about this forum now …
A disgusting sense of entitlement from anonymous trolls who jerk off to being rude to strangers who are trying to help people like me, who want to learn …
Try being constructive
Thanks @shahogen for your patience and wisdom.
And for all you muppets that wasted my time reading through your dumb ass comments, grow up and move out of your parent’s basement.
Listen and learn. You may get somewhere … someday.
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Well for one, it's against the forum rules. "You've" been here since 2008 and decided to never bother yourself with reading them?
That's not on me. That's on you.
How do you know this? I never have accused him of using CGPT, however, what if the people who have, are not wrong?
You've narrowed your focus so much to cold email, that you've completely neglected seeing what this new tool is capable of.
People have built entire websites, appearing as subject matter experts in whichever industry they decide to be experts in. Some have built multiple websites, doing this. I can be a rocket scientist by day, a psychologist by afternoon, a YouTuber with perfect video scripts by the evening, and late at night -- a Cold Email guru.
How would you know?
You're so focused on being toxic, that you're completely missing what people are saying.
Let's say, hypothetically, that you decide to get your (and his) account banned, by buying / selling outside the marketplace, and this dude ends up scamming you -- taking your money and providing you with a tool that doesn't properly do 1/5th of what he claims. You have all sorts of bugs and glitches to deal with. The support is non-responsive, and then he simply disappears with your money (if you hover over his name, he's already hiding his "Last seen" time (kinda like YOU are)). Then what?
Another "irony", is that the two of you have damn near identical writing styles.
Hmm..
wolfman1
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That’s such a weird reply …
The OP has answered literally a 100 questions about cold email in multiple threads at BHW and based on the feedback of dozens of BHW users, decided to sink money into his custom coded solution to improve it and make it available as a publicly available service.
But he hasn’t asked anyone to signup … he just told them what his intentions were.
He also didn’t ask anyone to private message him for more info, or send him money or join a waiting list.
In fact, other that mentioning that he is preparing his software, he hasn’t “sold” a single thing to anyone.
This is exactly what I would expect to see before he upgrades his account, opens a marketplace thread and actually starts selling his service.
OP is building credibility … it would be quite different if he did ask for money, like your hypothetical scenario suggested, except he hasn’t … because as we both know, that would be against BHW rules.
You asked how I know he has mastered it … it’s based on the fact that he provided correct answers to literally a 100 questions and he has tested a dozen public tools, and identified the same problems that I discovered (through a LOT of testing)
Then he went off and built his own custom software to do a better job …
That’s basically what a master would do … custom build a better solution to reduce cold email footprints, lower costs, remove restrictions on list uploads and such.
You would only go down that path when you have tested and tried the publicly available services, and found they come up short (or are expensive)
Then you went all weird on me and ranted about people knowing and not knowing stuff. Not sure what you meant by that … nor, the weird accusation that the OP and I share a similar writing style and have a feature turned off at BHW.
It almost feels like you want the OP to be ridiculed, labeled a scammer … for us to question his experience in cold email and suggest that he gets banned for selling outside the marketplace, when he hasn’t asked for $1 …
The OP has answered literally a 100 questions about cold email in multiple threads at BHW and based on the feedback of dozens of BHW users, decided to sink money into his custom coded solution to improve it and make it available as a publicly available service.
But he hasn’t asked anyone to signup … he just told them what his intentions were.
He also didn’t ask anyone to private message him for more info, or send him money or join a waiting list.
In fact, other that mentioning that he is preparing his software, he hasn’t “sold” a single thing to anyone.
This is exactly what I would expect to see before he upgrades his account, opens a marketplace thread and actually starts selling his service.
OP is building credibility … it would be quite different if he did ask for money, like your hypothetical scenario suggested, except he hasn’t … because as we both know, that would be against BHW rules.
You asked how I know he has mastered it … it’s based on the fact that he provided correct answers to literally a 100 questions and he has tested a dozen public tools, and identified the same problems that I discovered (through a LOT of testing)
Then he went off and built his own custom software to do a better job …
That’s basically what a master would do … custom build a better solution to reduce cold email footprints, lower costs, remove restrictions on list uploads and such.
You would only go down that path when you have tested and tried the publicly available services, and found they come up short (or are expensive)
Then you went all weird on me and ranted about people knowing and not knowing stuff. Not sure what you meant by that … nor, the weird accusation that the OP and I share a similar writing style and have a feature turned off at BHW.
It almost feels like you want the OP to be ridiculed, labeled a scammer … for us to question his experience in cold email and suggest that he gets banned for selling outside the marketplace, when he hasn’t asked for $1 …
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You do realize he's only got 83 posts, and most of them, he's either trying to sell his software or repeating what was already said, right?
Rarely does he ever answer any specific questions.
Oh really?
wolfman1
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Think about it this way … imagine there are millions of business owners, who have pain points. They need more of this, less of that, something needs to be faster, slower, bigger, smaller. All business owners experience problems.
And you happen to know of a solution. You provide it … and by putting in the time and effort, you find the business owner’s contact details and send them a targeted email.
You introduce yourself, ask them if they have experienced the pain point, explain that you helped someone very similar overcome this, and would love to try and help them. If they are interested, hit reply and get on a no obligation call to learn more.
Some people do this, but not in the cold email pitch. Most cold email is sent to get a reply, and book a call, meeting etc. That’s where deals are done, promises made, payments sent etc.
There are CRM tools that can do this sort of stuff. Also videos on YouTube about using PayPal to send a simple one time invoice. It’s not too difficult to ask for money
I would argue that if you put effort into building your list of prospects, and build an offer that resonates with your list, then you shouldn’t have to send hundreds of thousands of emails a month.
You can, but at the end of the day … if your plan is to make money, you might be surprised how much ROI you can generate from small lists of highly personalised prospects with matching interests. Just because you can scale up and send non personalised emails, doesn’t instantly mean you make money.
In my experience, the more un-personalised emails you send, the more issues you will face … it doesn’t translate into higher revenue like most people think.
You can personalise at a fairly broad level anyway. Make mention of where they live, or a holiday they may enjoy, or the company they work for, or the industry news etc.
The point is … a degree of personalization in your emails will go a long way.
That’s entirely possible. You could for example email a small niche of business owners that you know are likely to be screwed over by super expensive hosting companies. You could reach out with a cold email that offers to help them reduce their annual hosting costs, and offers a case study and requests a short meeting to discuss.
If they reply, you get them on a call and show them a variety of hosting packages that you have personally investigated and tested, and if they signup, you get an affiliate commission (often recurring).
Well, I’m not sure if $10 a month would work well for you … could you find a couple of solutions that work hand in hand, to try and help you earn say $100 a month instead?
For that sort of money, you could put some actual WORK into the offer.
The 15,000 contacts are real people, so you can’t just email them and sell your affiliate link. You need to understand their pain points … and if you truly have (or know of) a solution … then perhaps cold email will work out well.
Just don’t try and do it the lazy way, and put in no effort. People will just ignore your email.
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wolfman1
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He may only have 83 posts, but sometimes he answers several questions in a post.
I’ve learned quite a bit reading his contributions.
Just saying … post count is not indicative of much, but I do agree with you, that he is walking a very fine line on the selling before being a JrVIP and marketplace vendor.
He should stick to answering questions and back off on pimping his service until he is allowed.
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