Ok, you must know what your signing up for ; ubot support is like shouting in a deserted forest.
I am trying to make them fix a bug since April 2012.That's when i started to get heavy with ubot since version 4+ was stable enough ( 3.x was unusable for any practical use, in my opinion).
So, without further wasting your time, the thing is like this: i have a good supplier of yahoo accounts so logically i started using them to automate my work.
At the beginning i was using the mobile version, but since then they started to require captcha and login on the desktop version so i looked for an alternative and found that all yahoo accounts support IMAP.From here on now comes the headache.IMAP was working on any other app (outlook, thunderbird, iphone, delphi written software. etc.) But not uBot. So i thought i should let them know.
Just so you know, if i can't retrieve yahoo mail automatically i am losing hundreds.
So, on 09 April 2012, i tried to explain them the problem :
"
Hello, i am trying to access email via IMAP (yahoo account) as this is the last resort. (i used mobile version and scraped the activation link i needed, mobile version tricked the captcha and also is lighter and easier to work with).But now they display an error and won't let you login on mobile version without logging normally & enter captcha.
I tested out if imap still works without captcha and it does in outlook (see screenshots), thus the need of accessing it via IMAP. Yahoo won't let me acces it without SSL, but when i try to get mail via SSL in UBOT i get an certificate error.
The date and time are the actual ones so it's an ubot problem.
Please fix it cause i'm in the dark without this function working.
What validating procedure ? just make a checkbox with the option "accept any certificate" or something, thanks.
Daniel.
PS : If you have a tutorial on how to get activation links via mail functions ... i am used to html scraping method.
"
The next day, Lily replies
"Hi there,
We will let you know if it is an issue within UBot Studio, and if it's not, what you could try from there.
Please stand by.
Lilly T.
UBot Support Team
UBot Studio Support Hours:
Monday - Friday 9am-6pm US MT
Saturday - Sunday 10-5pm US MT"
Sometimes in the next 2 months, the ticket got closed without further response.
So, on 18 June 2012, i try to get some details :
"This ticket got closet yet you failed to specify weather this is / going to get fixed. How to make ubot automatically accept [any] certificate ?"
The next day, Lily replies :
"Hi there,
We have not forgotten about your issue, and we;ll let you know when an update is ready for the issue after further investigation.
Lilly T.
UBot Support Team
UBot Studio Support Hours:
Monday - Friday 9am-6pm US MT
Saturday - Sunday 10-5pm US MT"
Oh yes, somebody up there is still thinking at me ! Cool !
5 months later ... can't remember if the ticket got closed again but i think it did ...
Fortunately, i am a resourceful guy and i found some workarounds using a linux machine, but it's a little laggy (especially when i multithread)- and requires a vps (that i have to pay monthly).
So i upgraded to Professional licence around $200 (in seth's pocket) so i can multithread and i can barely retrieve my mail.
I can only dream about native support.
On 10 Sep 2012 :
"5 months have passed ... yet no update for such a basic thing ... is this issue fixed already ?"
I'll just post like a dialogue from here :
Lily:
"Hi there,
We have already looked into your issue extensively.
Yahoo only offers IMAP for Mobile users, and that is not something we can control, and it is not an easy fix. There is nothing broken about UBot Studio when it comes to your issue.
If you are looking for a work around to help you use that IMAP service with yahoo, I suggest going to the forum to find others who are working on the same work around.
We will try to revisit the issue when possible."
Nothing bout the pop3 settings (wich require yahoo+ that's a paid service) found on the forums. Also "ubot yahoo imap workaround" on a popular search engine didn't help ...
Me:
"Thanks but your answer is not helpful.
Found something on the forum , uses POP which is not available for free users.
Nevermind , the problem is that ubot can't acces secured IMAP ?
When will this be fixed ?"
Lily:
"Hi there,
We do not have a date for when it will be fixed, since it is not a problem with UBot.
It is a matter of allowing you to do something a website is keeping you from doing.
We will revisit it in the future when possible."
So in other words, F_ you, it doesn't matter that ALL other marketing software works with yahoo imap, it's a yahoo thing. This really pi**ed me off.But hey, <We will revisit it in the future when possible.> said Lily, let's just give it till the end of the year.
So, almost 1 year later and dozens of small updates wich made the bots bigger and bigger, the problem is still here, and even new ones.(That's how i remembered about the imap thing, i was pointing another issue - ui stats monitor freezing - the thread about it just vanished- that's how they solve problems they ignore the minority reporting them only this one affected alot of ppl and they silently fixed it by now)
05 June 2013
Me:
"Hello,
few days ago IMAPS was working to access yahoo mails.
now i can't access yahoo IMAPS or converted to IMAP via stunnel (both working in other softwares)
in outlook and dozen other softwares IMAPS on yahoo work flawlessly.
ubot hangs and continuously generate traffic on IMAP port until i kill it. This is a tcpdump capture of the traffic :
12:49:06.065123 IP MY_PC_IP.62225 > REMOTE_SERVER_WITH_STUNNEL.65431: Flags [P.], seq 70909:70943, ack 440519, win 16554, length 34
12:49:06.307085 IP MY_PC_IP.62225 > REMOTE_SERVER_WITH_STUNNEL.65431: Flags [P.], seq 70943:70981, ack 440742, win 16498, length 38
12:49:06.544972 IP MY_PC_IP.62225 > REMOTE_SERVER_WITH_STUNNEL.65431: Flags [P.], seq 70981:71015, ack 440965, win 16443, length 34
12:49:06.782145 IP MY_PC_IP.62225 > REMOTE_SERVER_WITH_STUNNEL.65431: Flags [P.], seq 71015:71053, ack 441188, win 16387, length 38
12:49:07.028088 IP MY_PC_IP.62225 > REMOTE_SERVER_WITH_STUNNEL.65431: Flags [P.], seq 71053:71087, ack 441411, win 16721, length 34
12:49:07.267419 IP MY_PC_IP.62225 > REMOTE_SERVER_WITH_STUNNEL.65431: Flags [P.], seq 71087:71125, ack 441634, win 16665, length 38
12:49:07.504564 IP MY_PC_IP.62225 > REMOTE_SERVER_WITH_STUNNEL.65431: Flags [P.], seq 71125:71159, ack 441857, win 16609, length 34
12:49:07.806352 IP MY_PC_IP.62225 > REMOTE_SERVER_WITH_STUNNEL.65431: Flags [P.], seq 71159:71197, ack 442080, win 16554, length 38
12:49:08.043040 IP MY_PC_IP.62225 > REMOTE_SERVER_WITH_STUNNEL.65431: Flags [P.], seq 71197:71231, ack 442303, win 16498, length 34
and this continues until i end the app.
What's going on ?"
This pointing out that it's an imap issue in ubot, not a SSL one.
Lily:
"Hi There,
This is a closed ticket. Please open a new ticket and we'll start looking into your problem there.
Thank you. We sincerely appreciate your cooperation.
Lilly T.
UBot Support Team
UBot Studio Support Hours:
Monday - Friday 9am-6pm US MT
Saturday - Sunday 10-5pm US MT"
Hmmm, so this ticket is burried in the sand you say, so make me open another ticket, just for the sake of speaking in a brand new ticket. OK.All in the spirit of cooperation (maybe this will finally get fixed)
so, whithout copying again my message (i am terrified about how long this post got so far, but my glass is full after 1 year and a half ticketing back and forth with the ubug squareheads, so i must put some high definition feeling ilustrating this exasperating experience). Thing is, imap worked for a few days natively, with ubot connecting with yahoo's imap server, but didn't last long, don't know why.
Robert Kennedy: (hmm, new guy, maybe he'll be helpful for a change)
"Hi there,
I would check yahoo's website to see what they changed with their IMAP and then adjust your code accordingly.
Robert K.
UBot Support Team"
Me:
"what do you mean ?
you can replicate the problem.
use a yahoo account.
official settings :
server : [official yahoo imap]
port : 993
SSLv3
try to set it up via wizard or directly to see that ubot hangs in an infinite loop and must Kill the process
any other email client works, php works."
Robert Kennedy:
"Hi there,
You said it was working fine so something either changed at yahoo unless this was after an UBot Studio update.
I am just wondering what changed that caused it to stop working.
I will test those settings and get back to you shortly.
Robert K.
UBot Support Team
UBot Studio Support Hours:
Monday - Friday 9am-6pm US MT
Saturday - Sunday 10-5pm US MT"
Oh, good, do that, test the settings, see that it's not working, i am eagerly waiting for the reply.
"Hi there,
Are you signed up to yahoo's paid email service? [YAHOO PLUS URL SIGNUP PAGE]
They charge a fee to connect via IMAP
Robert K.
UBot Support Team
UBot Studio Support Hours:
Monday - Friday 9am-6pm US MT
Saturday - Sunday 10-5pm US MT"
Oh, do they now ? They only charge a fee for you software i guess.At this stupidity level i was just :| forbidden.
So, for my own sanity i decided to simply drop it, i din't find the patience to press 1 more key on my keyboard, in vain.
Robert Kennedy:
"Hi there,
Please feel free to let us know by updating the ticket when you're ready to move forward with your issue.
Robert K.
UBot Support Team
UBot Studio Support Hours:
Monday - Friday 9am-6pm US MT
Saturday - Sunday 10-5pm US MT"
Yea, MY issue ...
Sorry for the long post, tonight i just found the patience of sharing this with everyone else, and i wanted to do it properly. IMAP still doesn't work for yahoo mailbox in Ubot Studio 4.2.20 (i pay $5/mo for updates ...) after $169 original purchase + $249 Pro ugrade.
Ps: just another ticket with Ubot Super team (for those who still have some patience left) / read from the bottom to the top :
Lilly Turin
Staff
Posted on: 17 January 2013 10:40 AM
Hello,
Great. Please open a ticket when you're ready to go through the process of solving the issue.
Lilly T.
UBot Support Team
UBot Studio Support Hours:
Monday - Friday 9am-6pm US MT
Saturday - Sunday 10-5pm US MT
Dany Dan
User
Posted on: 17 January 2013 09:15 AM
Like i said, i am not the only one having problems :
[ URL with dozens of users complaining about the same issue in the ubot studio forum, removed at a later time, now not accesible anymore]
It won't be necessary to provide a sample script because it happens with compiled bots on all the ui variables (none is updating). This is happening on my customer's computers running net framework 4 , not on the computer with ubot installed.
Lilly Turin
Staff
Posted on: 16 January 2013 06:58 PM
Hello.
The UI stat monitor is working without issue when running a compiled bot or a script.
When you're ready, please include a short simple script that demonstrates the issue you are dealing with.
If it is happening in a lare script, please isolate the issue and a provide a short script that replicates the issue.
Here is the download url to an older version of UBot 4: [LINK]
Lilly T.
UBot Support Team
UBot Studio Support Hours:
Monday - Friday 9am-6pm US MT
Saturday - Sunday 10-5pm US MT
Dany Dan
User
Posted on: 16 January 2013 05:49 PM
Hello, i am having troubles with the ui stats monitor since version 4.2.5 (the variables displayed do not update as the bot runs)
Please fix this problem ASAP and until you do, provide me a link to download version 4.2.4 !
Ubot is a decent product, too bad you don't pay very much attention to your users, you got the corporate behaviour "take it or leave it" and you mislead people on the forums thinking they step into a perfect world, with nice support, where their opinions are actually heard not just "deflected back".
Let ubot Studio 5 be the beginning of a new level of cooperation. Don't forget that we exist all over not just only on your backyard, and you cannot silence us, unhappy customers, on other places like you do on your forums.
My 2c.
Daniel.