Permanently Closed Marketplace Sales Thread

[andreyg13]

Hi,

I brought CS a few days ago having spent a lot on paid captcha services and here is where I am so far:

Purchased, licensed and installed - all went fine.

Hooked it up to ultimate demon and left it running. UD works with a lot of sites that use re-captcha so I knew its use would probably only detect about 30% of all my work. I checked back after a while and it said it had solved 52 captchas. I looked at the last 3 on the screen and they were all wrong. I sat and watched and one after another, the ones that were detected were virtually all coming up incorrectly yet being counted up as solved. it seemed to me something must have been wrong with the setup.

I lsent support an email and was impressed with how quick Mike came back to me and offered to speak on Skype. I explained why i thought it was not working correctly and emailed some screen shots showing first hand the failures and within a few minutes started getting the feeling Mike did not like the fact I dared to suggest is wasn't working too great. In no time at all I was being told "you just don't get it do you" and "are you for real" etc etc. He finished by saying he was wasting his time and too busy and cancelled the call. I have to say, I have never in my life been spoken to like that (as a customer who has just paid him 2 days ago $100).

While I was on the Skype call, I showed Mike what it was getting wrong first hand and was just told "well use the kit to teach it or make adjustments". Thats fine and I am happy to do that but when i asked him how I get the failed captchas (given you can only see the last 3 it did), he told me to go search Google for them. The point being, other than the current 3 on the screen, you have no record or way to see which ones have been guessed wrong and need more work. Given he knew I had brought it a few days ago and from what i have seen, the documentation is poor to say the least, i have to say I wish I had never brought it, I am guessing Paypal is not a payment option when you buy becuase I would easily by now have got my money back.

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As i tried to explain to Mike, it seems to me like something is not right somewhere. I have now got it showing nearly 350 solved captchas and based on sitting watching, I would be surprised if more than 10 of those 350 that were recognised were actually correct. As you can see in the attached, even the simple numbers that have a 100% detection rate claimed are all wrong. I am sure CS is potentially a good product and if I could get it to solve 50% of the captchas it recognises I would be happy.

After my call with Mike a few days ago, it came as little surprise that i then saw he had been banned from here for abusing people who like me, had done no more than question something to do with CS. As the attitude from Mike has been seems to be "Your wasting my time, you work it out for yourself", i thought I would ask on here if anyone has any suggestions before I bin it and write it off as $100 wasted and proof not to deal with people who don't have a proper support service (i.e they don't abuse their customers for just asking a question).

I can see that people have definitions on here and some people seem to be helpful if sharing bits so if anyone has any advice, suggestions or definitions that may improve my total failure with CS to date, it would be much appreciated (I am using ultimate demon and GSA)

Cheers
Rich

Ok, again misscommunication seems to be at hand here. Please send me your skype id via PM. I will take you up and go through this 1 by 1 with you. the first image shows me something we have discussed several times here. The image size is definitely different than the one implemented in CS. Byt looking at that image, that would be something that the destruction kit could crack with a very high success rate.

Now, as a customer, i definitely say that you are right, and this is why i would like to ask you to contact me and ewe go through it together. Also, I would like to ask for your permission to record our customer support session, and post it on bhw, so that users here will have an ideea how our customer service works, nothing elese, but from what i see, as i started the answer, miscommunication is at hand here, and this never has to come between us and our customers.

One thing I would love to add is: CS is a tool which brings out new ways and new linces in sight of business. This is the correct way to look at it. The reason why Mike implemented the Captcha Destruction Kit addon, is that it brings out the oportunity to add in new captcha types.

Now why did he do that?

Even if 1 captcha type looks the same as one that is implemented, the size has to fit in order to be compatible, logically can you really belive CS is this perfect bot that has a mind on it's own and would see an image and guess that it is the same as one before even if it looks smaller? well, that would be a hell of a tool and have a mind of it's own and we are waaay ahead of the game. Here is when the destruction kit comes in play, and gives you guys the ability to add your own captcha types "I know it sounds like work, but if you don't like to work, you can always go back and pay 40$ per 25k captchas at decaptcha" This is an automated tool which gives you the option to make your life less expensive if used right.

May I ask a question? Would you belive me if I say that for a singel article type captcha, I have about 6 different types saved in CS via Captcha destruction kit only because the image size isn't the same? ............and don't think this was lot of work, filters where the same as the first captcha i started with, only size was different, and I had to apply the same filters for different sizes which took me not more than 10 minutes.

I know and this is thepoiunt where i approve what you said, you expect that the tool you buy to be perfect, but this is IM, nothing is perfect here. Everything changes, we are offering the option to go along, but you would have to put the bone to it a bit and go along.

If, this isn't good, I am sure Mike would gladly refund you, don't be afraid that you payed via plimus, he is a cool guy and would hate to see an unhappy customer.

So, to get back to it, how about we set up a customer service appointment, and we record the entire session, just so that people see how much work we put into it, and I promise, that I will do my best to make sure you are satisfied in the end. Please don't take this as an irony, but the customers I helped out, and teh ones that Mike has helped out, know exactly what I am talking about.

So please, send me your skype details and let me help you out. In case you don't wish to, I am 100% sure, Mike would definitely agree to refund.

Now, the reason why I am doing this, is because, if you scroll back 2 pages, and read on from that part, I ahve asked several times from users to give me their skype id in order to help them out. I got only 1 response and that was it. This isn't the first time this has happened and it is a bit bothering.

The customer complains it isn't working, I ask for the contact details, and I never recieve them. We have hundreds of customers who stanbd witness that we are helping out and getting things working.

So again, please send me your details via PM, andd I will 100% help you get things working and show you the proper way on how to use CS.

Thank you

 

[andreyg13]

P.S - Don't take this up the worng way, the goal is always to get a good seller-customer relationship and make everyone happy....this requires teamwork from both sides, so bare with me and let's help each other on making our lives easyer

 

[richrich123]

Hi Andrey, I would be more than happy to have a skype and sort it out and if you want to record and use it, I'm more than happy for your to. I am sure CS is great but it seems to me that it does need a bit of help from someone that knows what they are doing to fine tune it and get it working to start with. Unfortunatly I cannot Pm you as you have to have 15+ posts and I haven't yet. maybe you could send me your skype and i will add you.
Thanks
Rich

 

[andreyg13]

Hi Andrey, I would be more than happy to have a skype and sort it out and if you want to record and use it, I'm more than happy for your to. I am sure CS is great but it seems to me that it does need a bit of help from someone that knows what they are doing to fine tune it and get it working to start with. Unfortunatly I cannot Pm you as you have to have 15+ posts and I haven't yet. maybe you could send me your skype and i will add you.
Thanks
Rich

Np, PM with skype details sent,

I would like to ask you to send me a time schedule for tomorrow when we can get together and get things working, right now it is 4 a.m. where I am at. I am on GMT+2 Bucharest time. I am sure I can help you out by setting a nice start-up tutorial for you in order to see the potential CS has.

Also I would like to set up a web meeting and a group via skype for all our customers which need some more in depth explanation with CS. I am well aware of that a a few of our customers would need a bit of extra gudance with CS and I would gladdly offer it.

So in order to clear out all this, until we have our forum up, I would like to create a skype group and invite everyone to join me ther in order to clear things up and help each an every customer of ours with every aspect that he/she may need help with

 

[Anon752]

richrich123 and andrey,

One thing that might be interesting here is having CS actually implement the failed captcha part of the various protocols. Decaptcha, DBC, and the others allow your software to reject bad ones. If CS had that implemented properly it could add everything it thinks it solved to the "Current Solved" field, and any that come back as failed from the software will just subtract one from the "Current Solved"

It doesnt look to me like CS has that part implemented at all, but since you have other parts of the APIs already emulated/implemented it shouldnt be too hard to add.

 

[csguy]

I'm sure this has been asked before, but what's stopping you from adding captchas included with CaptchaSniper for all the platforms GSA Search Engine Ranker ships with? I'm sure you would have a lot of happy customers if you did this.

 

[richrich123]

Hi,

Have added you on skype (username ends in 1234). I am GMT so 2 hrs behind you. Today is a bit busy so can we do Monday at 7pm GMT (9pm your time). Thanks Rich

 

[MickMcG]

@richrich123, although i have nothing to do with the devs of CS, from the pics u posted, i can see straight away a problem u got is with size conflicts (down the bottom bar of CS), u need to go through ur list of selected captchas and turn off one of the conflicting size captchas, if u dont, CS will try to solve them possibly using the wrong captcha type/algo and u end up with results like u are posting.

other than that, as andreyg13 mentioned, i can also see that the images coming up as unknown are clearly a different size to the selected captcha, if CS says it is unknown, it means the captcha is either turned off or not trained in the app.

if u are using GSA SER (or this can be used for any app really), i did go through and put together a list of captchas to turn on without size conflicts, u can find it here:
http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...software-free-5-day-trial-33.html#post4465972

i thought id post this to help get u going quicker and maybe others that read the thread

 

[Duddo]

hi!
how can I enter my PayPal Transaction ID
to get the license file, if I paid with Webmoney?

 

[hashas1]

Andrey

Did you even downloaded the file ? If you cant provide me the service pls let me know .Is there any forum about the filters ?

 

[andreyg13]

richrich123 and andrey,

One thing that might be interesting here is having CS actually implement the failed captcha part of the various protocols. Decaptcha, DBC, and the others allow your software to reject bad ones. If CS had that implemented properly it could add everything it thinks it solved to the "Current Solved" field, and any that come back as failed from the software will just subtract one from the "Current Solved"

It doesnt look to me like CS has that part implemented at all, but since you have other parts of the APIs already emulated/implemented it shouldnt be too hard to add.

For now, CS shows the solved ones and if you select via settings "save unknown captchas", it will save the failed ones. These can be later used in Captcha Destruction Kit by importing them. But I believe what you are asking can best be answered by Mike.

I'm sure this has been asked before, but what's stopping you from adding captchas included with CaptchaSniper for all the platforms GSA Search Engine Ranker ships with? I'm sure you would have a lot of happy customers if you did this.

If you mean the db that has been shared here, then the reason behind it is to also post a tutorial and show our customers how they can backup, and import a user built db.

hi!
how can I enter my PayPal Transaction ID
to get the license file, if I paid with Webmoney?

In this case you would have to enter the order number from Plimus

Andrey

Did you even downloaded the file ? If you cant provide me the service pls let me know .Is there any forum about the filters ?

Yes, I have downloaded the file on friday and am still working on it trying to get the best success rate I can. I will let you know as soon as I am finished with it

 

[VanillaH]

Hello,

I have a private software and I want to add CAPTCHA support. Is there some sort of API for developers? Do you support multi-threads?
(Sorry if you answered those questions. 47 pages, heh.)

Vanilla

 

[travanx]

Is there an online tutorial to explain how the destruction kit works with GSA SER? I also want to try to make GSA work better if possible.

 

[andreyg13]

Hello,

I have a private software and I want to add CAPTCHA support. Is there some sort of API for developers? Do you support multi-threads?
(Sorry if you answered those questions. 47 pages, heh.)

Vanilla

NP bro

So to understand you would like to integrate it directly into your tool. In this case, shoot my collegue Mike an email at license[at]captchasniper[dot]com and talk it through with him. I am sure he can help you further

Is there an online tutorial to explain how the destruction kit works with GSA SER? I also want to try to make GSA work better if possible.

The actual tutorial of the Captcha Destruction Kit is made with GSA so just give it a view and you will figure out how to use it.

Besides, I have added a db of 32 captcha types (mostly for GSA) with a step by step tut on how to add them if you follow the link below:

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/446637-captcha-sniper-definition-files-32-additional-captchas-mostly-gsa.html

Enjoy

 

[richrich123]

Hi,

I brought CS a few days ago having spent a lot on paid captcha services and here is where I am so far:

Purchased, licensed and installed - all went fine.

Hooked it up to ultimate demon and left it running. UD works with a lot of sites that use re-captcha so I knew its use would probably only detect about 30% of all my work. I checked back after a while and it said it had solved 52 captchas. I looked at the last 3 on the screen and they were all wrong. I sat and watched and one after another, the ones that were detected were virtually all coming up incorrectly yet being counted up as solved. it seemed to me something must have been wrong with the setup.

I lsent support an email and was impressed with how quick Mike came back to me and offered to speak on Skype. I explained why i thought it was not working correctly and emailed some screen shots showing first hand the failures and within a few minutes started getting the feeling Mike did not like the fact I dared to suggest is wasn't working too great. In no time at all I was being told "you just don't get it do you" and "are you for real" etc etc. He finished by saying he was wasting his time and too busy and cancelled the call. I have to say, I have never in my life been spoken to like that (as a customer who has just paid him 2 days ago $100).

While I was on the Skype call, I showed Mike what it was getting wrong first hand and was just told "well use the kit to teach it or make adjustments". Thats fine and I am happy to do that but when i asked him how I get the failed captchas (given you can only see the last 3 it did), he told me to go search Google for them. The point being, other than the current 3 on the screen, you have no record or way to see which ones have been guessed wrong and need more work. Given he knew I had brought it a few days ago and from what i have seen, the documentation is poor to say the least, i have to say I wish I had never brought it, I am guessing Paypal is not a payment option when you buy becuase I would easily by now have got my money back.

View attachment 15009View attachment 15010View attachment 15011View attachment 15012View attachment 15013View attachment 15014

As i tried to explain to Mike, it seems to me like something is not right somewhere. I have now got it showing nearly 350 solved captchas and based on sitting watching, I would be surprised if more than 10 of those 350 that were recognised were actually correct. As you can see in the attached, even the simple numbers that have a 100% detection rate claimed are all wrong. I am sure CS is potentially a good product and if I could get it to solve 50% of the captchas it recognises I would be happy.

After my call with Mike a few days ago, it came as little surprise that i then saw he had been banned from here for abusing people who like me, had done no more than question something to do with CS. As the attitude from Mike has been seems to be "Your wasting my time, you work it out for yourself", i thought I would ask on here if anyone has any suggestions before I bin it and write it off as $100 wasted and proof not to deal with people who don't have a proper support service (i.e they don't abuse their customers for just asking a question).

I can see that people have definitions on here and some people seem to be helpful if sharing bits so if anyone has any advice, suggestions or definitions that may improve my total failure with CS to date, it would be much appreciated (I am using ultimate demon and GSA)

Cheers
Rich

OK,

Here is an update. Andrey came back to me very quickly and arranged for a Skype session. We did a teamviewer session and he updated some files and had a look over the setup. He explained the problem with size conflicts and helped get that corrected and explained some ways to identify the captchas that were being read wrong (untick the current captcha, let it collect them as unknown captcha's until you have 10+ in the unknowns folder and then add them to the destruction kit and play about until you get a better success rate)

I am now seeing a lot higher success rate as standard and have already added a few new ones that were unknown and getting about 40% success (4 out of 10 is better than paying for all 10 over and over!!)

In all, Andrey is a great guy, very helpful and during the 40 minute call, not only got everything right and working better but taught me all I needed to know to get the most from CS. The only thing I think CS REALLY, REALLY needs is the ability to see all your solved images, including what CS guessed it to be, not just the last 3 on the screen. If I have been away for 10 hrs and come back and can see it has solved 300, I have no idea if 300 were guessed correct or only 1. The benefit to this is that if I can see a poor success rate with a certain one, I can go back and have a play and try and improve it.

When I sat watching last night, I noticed one particular one keep failing. I unchecked it and let it catch 10 or so as unknown and then added then to the destruction kit, made some changes and saved and straight away was getting a much higher success rate - super!!!!!!!

As it stands, I have no way to know if my 300 were all correct or all wrong and hence no idea if I could be making some tweaks to improve the success rate.

 

[richrich123]

richrich123 and andrey,

One thing that might be interesting here is having CS actually implement the failed captcha part of the various protocols. Decaptcha, DBC, and the others allow your software to reject bad ones. If CS had that implemented properly it could add everything it thinks it solved to the "Current Solved" field, and any that come back as failed from the software will just subtract one from the "Current Solved"

It doesnt look to me like CS has that part implemented at all, but since you have other parts of the APIs already emulated/implemented it shouldnt be too hard to add.

Totally agree, as per my last post, there is no way to see what is actually being incorrectly guessed (other than the last 3 on the screen or sitting and watching all day) and because of that, no real way to be able to make the most of the destruction kit and make some fine tuning tweaks to those that are showing a consistent pattern of being guessed wrong.

 

[andreyg13]

OK,

Here is an update. Andrey came back to me very quickly and arranged for a Skype session. We did a teamviewer session and he updated some files and had a look over the setup. He explained the problem with size conflicts and helped get that corrected and explained some ways to identify the captchas that were being read wrong (untick the current captcha, let it collect them as unknown captcha's until you have 10+ in the unknowns folder and then add them to the destruction kit and play about until you get a better success rate)

I am now seeing a lot higher success rate as standard and have already added a few new ones that were unknown and getting about 40% success (4 out of 10 is better than paying for all 10 over and over!!)

In all, Andrey is a great guy, very helpful and during the 40 minute call, not only got everything right and working better but taught me all I needed to know to get the most from CS. The only thing I think CS REALLY, REALLY needs is the ability to see all your solved images, including what CS guessed it to be, not just the last 3 on the screen. If I have been away for 10 hrs and come back and can see it has solved 300, I have no idea if 300 were guessed correct or only 1. The benefit to this is that if I can see a poor success rate with a certain one, I can go back and have a play and try and improve it.

When I sat watching last night, I noticed one particular one keep failing. I unchecked it and let it catch 10 or so as unknown and then added then to the destruction kit, made some changes and saved and straight away was getting a much higher success rate - super!!!!!!!

As it stands, I have no way to know if my 300 were all correct or all wrong and hence no idea if I could be making some tweaks to improve the success rate.

Thx for your nice feedback Richard, I am always happy when i see satisfied customers.

Your suggestions as well as other customers suggestions are most welcome and will be taken in consideration. This is the correct way to help Mike build Captcha Sniper stronger and faster. Like any other tool, it is under constant developement.

Thank you for your feedback, for any other inquires, feel free to contact me

 

[richrich123]

Thanks Andrey,

I am now starting to see the real benefit and if we can eventually get to see the full list of all captcha's being process, I am sure we can then tweak and get even higher success rates and most importantly, make more savings over paid captcha services.

Cheers
Rich

 

[richrich123]

Andrey, I am now getting "index out of bounds" errors. Have shut everything down and rebooted server and same again when it comes back up.
Thanks

 

[bodamedia]

I would be willing to pay for someone put together definitions using the destruction kit.. I am sure i am not the only in this boat.. where time is important and creating definitions and doing stuff with the destruction kit is not something we are keen on.

I am particularly interested in Ultimate Demon.. Is anyone going to do this?