PayPal: How do people get caught?

John4467

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So i've heard of a lot of users getting caught using PayPal when their account was reported to the IRS. Two examples:

1) https://torrentfreak.com/movie-pirate-pleads-guilty-faces-five-years-in-jail-forfeits-millions-of-dollars-191126/
2) https://torrentfreak.com/millions-in-crypto-cash-seized-in-movie-piracy-investigation-191124/

My question is, since you don't need an ID for a PayPal account, why can't you just fake the information? Even if they report you, your account info is meaningless, and you can just buy Crypto with the Palpal account right? What am I missing here?
 
after you meet a certain threshold of money in a paypal account they have you verify your social security number (or corresponding information dependent on your country) if you don't use your info you're looking at felony charges, if you use your info your subject to them filing a 1099 to your social security number
 
after you meet a certain threshold of money in a paypal account they have you verify your social security number (or corresponding information dependent on your country) if you don't use your info you're looking at felony charges, if you use your info your subject to them filing a 1099 to your social security number
Great answer. Thank you.
 
Do yourself a favor and avoid Paypal. You'll thank me later. I have lost a lot of money because of they being ignorant and unfair. I hope they die in pain and burn in hell.
 
Do yourself a favor and avoid Paypal. You'll thank me later. I have lost a lot of money because of they being ignorant and unfair. I hope they die in pain and burn in hell.

But it’s safe to use it , only for purchasing :D
 
But it’s safe to use it , only for purchasing :D
Sure, for buying it's a freakin' goldmine. You receive the purchased item/service, you open a case and you end up getting a refund with little to no effort.
On the other hand, if you're a seller, you're pretty much screwed with Paypal.
 
But if you are a seller and do not accept PayPal then... good luck with sales :D
 
PayPal is exellent if your the buyer, the paypal and Amazon system are too much focused on the buyer. They both don't Care about seller, they need more buyers than sellers . More buyers on a platform will automatically force the seller to sell on it.
 
Yes, i myself and my partners are doing really well with PayPal, so I’m do encourage using PayPal to sell and transact legally.
 
Paypal they check the trail, also as @4WardThinking stated they do follow ur info. Had a lot of issues with Paypal abruptly freezing account, would avoid them if I can.
 
How much funds had you transferred through your pp account? after you reach some limits - they will ask you an additional docs
 
I dunno about US but Indian paypal earnings automatically get transferred to the linked bank account. Even if someone opened an account with fake details, how will he/she enter fake bank details? Sure, fake bank accounts... but that way... you are basically becoming a fraudster. I report my earnings every year as income from other sources, and have to pay 30% as tax. Could be different for US/UK/EU though.
 
So i've heard of a lot of users getting caught using PayPal when their account was reported to the IRS. Two examples:

1) https://torrentfreak.com/movie-pirate-pleads-guilty-faces-five-years-in-jail-forfeits-millions-of-dollars-191126/
2) https://torrentfreak.com/millions-in-crypto-cash-seized-in-movie-piracy-investigation-191124/

My question is, since you don't need an ID for a PayPal account, why can't you just fake the information? Even if they report you, your account info is meaningless, and you can just buy Crypto with the Palpal account right? What am I missing here?

It's not that simple, unfortunately.

What would be your IP address solution? You might say "Just use a VPN!" and in response to that I would say "What VPN?". Most VPNs claim not to keep any logs, but many times this has proven to be a lie when subpoenad by the government and apparently non existent logs magically appear out of nowhere.

Let's assume that you did have a good IP address solution. Sadly, this is not enough. It's naive to think that just using a VPN would be enough and it would keep you anonymous and unable to track.

What I am trying to say, is that Operational Security is a field of its own. That must be studied in great depth, if you want to even attempt to evade the authorities. Your average dude hosting pirated websites is most likely not willing to do all that learning.
 
"For a fee, the sites allowed subscribers to stream movies and TV shows"

This is the real reason why he got 5 years in jail.
 
"For a fee, the sites allowed subscribers to stream movies and TV shows"

This is the real reason why he got 5 years in jail.
And this, too...
 
You can't avoid taxes just because you are using paypal... lol
 
It's very easy to avoid such limitations/threshold - RUN MULTIPLE STEALTH ACCOUNTS :)
 
You can't avoid taxes just because you are using paypal... lol

yep especially for someone in the US. for someone who is going to use copyrighted material the last thing you want is getting attention from the IRS . if i were him i would stick with ads . there are website that only use ads and it seems they are doing well, like yespornplease/ com
 
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