Payment Gateway

JimmieLarry said:

Hey Guys

I sell Branded Replica products specifically women handbags. I am looking for a high risk payment gateway for my replica site.

Previously i used to use multiple old paypal and stripe accounts,. But now its not working anymore.

Monthly Volume is around 25k$ with chargeback ratio 0.3%, I have high quality suppliers in hand and we can scale it to 50k$ easily with a good gateway.

I am not looking for a crypto option.

Heard about cloaking a few times on this forum, but couldn't find much detail on it

So please suggest a working solution for my business?

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Danny Burke said:

Here is how cloaking works:

First, we need two websites: one website A (selling replica products) and one website B (selling regular everyday items). We promote website A, and when buyers visit website A to purchase replica products, they choose PayPal as the payment method at checkout.

When they click the checkout button, the PayPal account from website B pops up, prompting the buyer to pay, without the buyer knowing that it’s website B's PayPal account. From PayPal's perspective, it detects a regular product sale from website B, so it pops up the PayPal payment window.

After the buyer completes the payment, the money successfully goes into PayPal, the payment data is passed back to website B, and website B then passes it back to website A.

This is the process of AB site payment redirection.

As suggested by others, your best bet is stripe or paypal with cloaking.

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JimmieLarry said:

Hey Guys

I sell Branded Replica products specifically women handbags. I am looking for a high risk payment gateway for my replica site.

Previously i used to use multiple old paypal and stripe accounts,. But now its not working anymore.

Monthly Volume is around 25k$ with chargeback ratio 0.3%, I have high quality suppliers in hand and we can scale it to 50k$ easily with a good gateway.

I am not looking for a crypto option.

Heard about cloaking a few times on this forum, but couldn't find much detail on it

So please suggest a working solution for my business?

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kmous said:

use nexi pay gateway its the best gateway for EU

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Abdul Tauqir9 said:

Checkout These payment gateways:

CCBill
WebPays
InstaBill
DirectPayment Net

Else stripe with cloaking will work for replica. Either you can cloak your own stripe account or work with rental service for %.

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Danny Burke said:

Here is how cloaking works:

First, we need two websites: one website A (selling replica products) and one website B (selling regular everyday items). We promote website A, and when buyers visit website A to purchase replica products, they choose PayPal as the payment method at checkout.

When they click the checkout button, the PayPal account from website B pops up, prompting the buyer to pay, without the buyer knowing that it’s website B's PayPal account. From PayPal's perspective, it detects a regular product sale from website B, so it pops up the PayPal payment window.

After the buyer completes the payment, the money successfully goes into PayPal, the payment data is passed back to website B, and website B then passes it back to website A.

This is the process of AB site payment redirection.

As suggested by others, your best bet is stripe or paypal with cloaking.

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GoldKing said:

Using Stripe and PayPal Stealth Accounts is what I would suggest. But be aware: PayPal usually doesn't come without issues.

But yeah, Stripe is what most people that are into replica use when it comes to receiving payments.

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Danny Burke said:

Here is how cloaking works:

First, we need two websites: one website A (selling replica products) and one website B (selling regular everyday items). We promote website A, and when buyers visit website A to purchase replica products, they choose PayPal as the payment method at checkout.

When they click the checkout button, the PayPal account from website B pops up, prompting the buyer to pay, without the buyer knowing that it’s website B's PayPal account. From PayPal's perspective, it detects a regular product sale from website B, so it pops up the PayPal payment window.

After the buyer completes the payment, the money successfully goes into PayPal, the payment data is passed back to website B, and website B then passes it back to website A.

This is the process of AB site payment redirection.

As suggested by others, your best bet is stripe or paypal with cloaking.

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JimmieLarry said:

Sure will look into it

Thanks for the recommendatio i will submit application to suggested gateways.
can you recommend some rental services?


Thanks for explaing in detail. Now Understood how cloaking works.

My site is on wordpress so can this solution can be implemented on wordpress?


Got it....

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Danny Burke said:

Yes this solution can be implemented on wordpress infact most payment gateway cloaking plugins only works for wordpress or 1 of them for shopfiy

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JimmieLarry said:

Sure will look into it

Thanks for the recommendatio i will submit application to suggested gateways.
can you recommend some rental services?


Thanks for explaing in detail. Now Understood how cloaking works.

My site is on wordpress so can this solution can be implemented on wordpress?


Got it....

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quicksolution said:

Here are a few options you could consider:

PaymentCloud
Soar Payments
HighRiskPay
iPayTotal

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Danny Burke said:

Here is how cloaking works:

First, we need two websites: one website A (selling replica products) and one website B (selling regular everyday items). We promote website A, and when buyers visit website A to purchase replica products, they choose PayPal as the payment method at checkout.

When they click the checkout button, the PayPal account from website B pops up, prompting the buyer to pay, without the buyer knowing that it’s website B's PayPal account. From PayPal's perspective, it detects a regular product sale from website B, so it pops up the PayPal payment window.

After the buyer completes the payment, the money successfully goes into PayPal, the payment data is passed back to website B, and website B then passes it back to website A.

This is the process of AB site payment redirection.

As suggested by others, your best bet is stripe or paypal with cloaking.

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Danny Burke said:

Here is how cloaking works:

First, we need two websites: one website A (selling replica products) and one website B (selling regular everyday items). We promote website A, and when buyers visit website A to purchase replica products, they choose PayPal as the payment method at checkout.

When they click the checkout button, the PayPal account from website B pops up, prompting the buyer to pay, without the buyer knowing that it’s website B's PayPal account. From PayPal's perspective, it detects a regular product sale from website B, so it pops up the PayPal payment window.

After the buyer completes the payment, the money successfully goes into PayPal, the payment data is passed back to website B, and website B then passes it back to website A.

This is the process of AB site payment redirection.

As suggested by others, your best bet is stripe or paypal with cloaking.

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frostiix said:

Thanks for this info.

But on the Website B, you would still sell the replica? or what would the customer see as the product? If the product is a branded replica on A but when it redirects to B wouldn't it be the same? wouldn't Paypal or stripe still see that you're selling a replica?

This is the part that I do not understand.

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JimmieLarry said:

Got it thats great


I have submitted application to all the suggested gateways, but was rejected almost by all
If you can share some sources for rental services as i am looking into cloaking now, that would be great.....

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Abdul Tauqir9 said:

Did you found some source or should i share?

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Danny Burke said:

Website B would contain legit products, customer will not see website B, customer would see website A and checkout on website A.

Customer don't get redirected to Website B from website A. When customer on website A checkouts a replica product, A stripe/Paypal hosted page opens up right after clicking on "Pay Now" which shows the total amount to be paid.

That paypal/stripe hosted page which opens up on website A, is actually website B paypal/stripe account but popping up on website A, so stripe/paypal gets the data that someone purchased something from website B not website A. And on customer part they just get redirected to paypal/stripe hosted payment page (not any other website).

Seeing this in live action, would help you better understand how this whole thing works..

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