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Outranking Authority Sites?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by realtawk, Sep 26, 2015.

  1. realtawk

    realtawk Registered Member

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    Hi, few questions.


    1) Can you outrank other websites that have high DA, by having a high PA (With better content)
    2) If you write better and longer content than the Top 10 results, is it a little easier to rank with fewer links?
    3) Can you out rank sites with DA of 70+? I know it would take a lot of work but how long could it take?
    4) Whats the highest DA site that you have outranked? How long did it take?


    Man I hate these juggernauts ranking for everything under the f#$&en rainbow. Thinkin their all that.
     
  2. gwenadine

    gwenadine Newbie

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    You could with the right strategy and resources.
     
  3. SEO Power

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    The best advice I can give you is to avoid competing against such sites if you're a newbie or if your site is new.
     
  4. realtawk

    realtawk Registered Member

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    These juggernauts are everywhere. Google heavly favours authority sites. So you have to build authority sites for long term success. From what i have been hearing.

    And it makes sense building a site into a large site is more productive and would be more profitable than building tens of small sites.

    I just wanted to know if anyone on here has outranked high authority sites with DA over 70 and PA over 50. Any tips or strategies you wouldn't mind sharing.

    Thanks
     
  5. SEOentrepreneur

    SEOentrepreneur Junior Member

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    Tips? Well first of all you would have to know how to do SEO. Then you will need to have money to invest. Then if you know what are you doing,and with enough money to invest,you can outrank these. But it is hard,specially if it is some whitehat niche.
     
  6. LuckyCharm007

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    if you focus on PA/DA only to measure how hard it is to outrank someone then NO, you clearly won't outrank them.

    Can authority site be outranked? Of course they can (all depends on the keywords you aiming at). Does everyone have the knowledge to outrank them? No.

    My advice, don't try it out just yet. Clearly your not experienced enough and you most likely will just throw your money out the window and ends up empty handed.

    Browse around the forum, learn a little about seo and then try out a couple techniques yourself with easy-to-rank keywords. You won't learn without failure.
     
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    Can you please explain what you mean by whitehat niche?
     
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    No niche is a whitehat niche unless you want it to be.
     
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    1) Can you outrank other websites that have high DA, by having a high PA (With better content)

    It depends on the nature of keyword and type of websites you have. Let me briefly explain you the type of keywords and how Google behaves with them.

    i) News-Oriented Keywords (Top-Trend Keywords like ISIS, Obama, Celebrity Name which are being searched heavily by people can get you to compete with your competitors on news oriented sites, blogs and discussion forums).

    ii) Question-Oriented Keywords (Keywords starting from What, How, Why etc. can easily competed through High Authority blogs, discussion forums, Yahoo Answers, WikiHow etc.

    iii) Commercial Informative Keywords (Highly competitive medical terms like Diabetes treatment occupied by sites like web-md are not easily to compete unless you become authority and manually recognized by Google to compete them)

    iv) Pure Commercial keywords (There were times when people could do churn and burn on keywords like Sell Homes, Payday Loans, buy viagra but today you have to spends thousands of bucks to compete the top 10 competitions and still no guarantee of results).

    v) Shopping-Oriented Keywords (These can be competed by micro-targeted e-commerce sites but would take at least 5-6 months with constant updation of the size of your site, if you want to outrank amazon.com)

    To analyze your keyword, you need to analyze the websites ranking on top 10 positions:


    • The type of pages (blog, news, thread etc.) in SERP results
    • Do we have Youtube, Rebelmouse or any other Parasite site among the top 10? (If yes, then you have a chance to rank as well).
    • What are the size of domains ranking on first page?
    • Do we have exact match or phrase match domains ranking on top results?
    • Whether most of the ranked pages are inner pages of High Authority domains?
    • The age of the ranked page (For how long it has been existed or when it was posted)
    • The velocity of the backlinks it had acquired by the passage of time.
    • The unique number of referring domains and the type of backlinks.
    • And most importantly their social shares.

    2) If you write better and longer content than the Top 10 results, is it a little easier to rank with fewer links?

    Only if your post (money-page) gets viral in social media more than the ones in your competitions with better backlinks in terms of quantity, quality and competitive speed of their acquisition.

    3) Can you out rank sites with DA of 70+? I know it would take a lot of work but how long could it take?

    4-6 Months. Depending upon the above factors.

    4) Whats the highest DA site that you have outranked? How long did it take?

    Again not a big deal if you consider the above given factors. Its easy to outrank Youtube, Amazon, Rebelmouse, NYTimes many DA: 50+ Sites. It may not be easy to outrank WikiPedia on competitive keywords and grab its FIRST SPOT. I have seen it in very few cases but could not experience it myself.
     
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    Dude, theoretically everything is possible. Basically it all comes down to your budget.
     
  11. vikiendu

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    you will need a lot of PBN links, and use them the right way.

    But I suggest checking the backlink profile first. If a sites got links from big sites like Huffington Post, The New York Time..., your chance of outranking it is slim to nil.
     
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    Very often, sites that high high authority rank for related KWs even if they aren't optimized for them. If that is the case, by creating a website/page optimized for that specific keyword, even with lower authority you would outrank that site, since your site would be more related for that term.
     
  13. metajasonnn

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    You need some viral swag bruhv.. it's possible, but if you're looking for hang-time or long-term positioning, then you're going to need to play ball and boost your DA/PA