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No Posting NEW THREADS without 50 posts or 3 months membership!!!

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by xlcrash, Feb 15, 2015.

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No Posting Threads 4 Newbies?

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  1. xlcrash

    xlcrash Senior Member

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    So, everday some new members (duplicate accounts) posting useless threads, self promoting, asking same questions everyday without searching, trying to scam people etc... (they pollute this very good forum)... I would really like that MODS make a new rule, that new members can't open NEW THREAD before they have 50 posts or at least 3 months membership...

    What do you guys think???
     
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  2. xlcrash

    xlcrash Senior Member

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    Nobody doesn't agree with me???
     
  3. whynotmakeit

    whynotmakeit Power Member

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    I agree. At least some sort of delay before they can join and immediately make a scam thread, then another, then yet another.....
     
  4. wizard04

    wizard04 Elite Member

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    I disagree.
    Most of the new members don't understand and they are the always who are asking for help, which is normal.
    For us its easy to find an old thread and take the info we need but for them its not that easy as they can hardly understand they own problem they are facing.

    I do understand there are small amount of new account opening new thread to promote them self, but there are large number of newbies who really need our help(if we can provide it). So I don't believe its fair this rule to exist for sake for those people who really need our help.
     
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  5. THUNDERELVI

    THUNDERELVI Elite Member

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    3 months membership is a long time, you would be denying real genuine users who just discovered BHW or IM the possibility to ask questions and get information/help from other members, which is the main reason of a forum. However, I agree at some point: the amount of useless brainless threads is increasing every day. Not to mention scamming ones, which are worse.

    Your idea of denying access to posting a thread is good. However, I think a new sub-forum should be opened which is dedicated to ONLY asking questions and helping other members. Kind like a huge Q/A sub-forum. This way, new real members can ask questions freely in that sub-forum, still access all the amazing information in other sub-forums, but cannot open new shitty threads.
    Also, if it's implemented it should be more than 50 posts - 50 posts are really easy to accomplish with a couple hours work.
    Just my 2 cents...
     
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  6. warriorkreatives

    warriorkreatives Junior Member

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    In what way we can increase our post daily if we will not ask or up a thread for our concerns to met the required post in order to promote our services in BHW marketplace? We are not stealing your privacy and your money so we don't do scam business as you label newbie like me. :(
     
  7. tiyowan

    tiyowan Regular Member

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    I like the idea of a sub-forum that's exclusively for questions from IM newbies.
     
  8. whynotmakeit

    whynotmakeit Power Member

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    Just throwing it out there..... but what about all threads from members below xx posts get moderated before they go live?? Easy way to weed out all the self promotion, bait titles and obvious scams.....
     
  9. moonshine7000

    moonshine7000 Senior Member

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    That will unfair for newbies the ones that really need geniune help.
     
  10. LostConnection

    LostConnection Senior Member

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    The sub-forum for beginners isn't too bad of an idea, although the three month thread starting ban is sort of useless. But BHW will go through some major changes before the UnGagged in May so we'll see what happens.
     
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  11. blankspace

    blankspace Newbie

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    hey man, no offense or anything but i have to disagree with that. im a newbie and as a newbie, i'd hate to wait for 3 months or have 50 posts until i get to ask anything. i've never posted a thread before cuz im still doing my research. as thunderelvi said, we could use a new sub-forum just for newbies. im sure that this(a new sub-forum) will help most of us (newbies) and still have the same rules :)
     
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  12. LukaB

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    Not so easy. A LOT of posts are posted daily and there are lots of new members every day. It would be way too much work for the staff in the UK, and a lot of time for mods/super-mods etc. Keep in mind, mods/super-mods are not paid, they also make money and have their own life, family and whatsoever.


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    Why would you want to limit people? This is a forum, the whole idea is so we can share, communicate and help each other. You'd be ruining the whole point of a forum by limiting new folks. And not to mention, if that rule somehow did pass, you'd see a large increase of posts being NON-RELATED to the thread.

    BHW is a large forum, there obviously will be a ton of members joining everyday, it's not easy.


    1 Suggestion and something I would add if I could is, encourage people to use the search bar. I've seen that in a paid forum, there's like a whole guide before you can join the forum, it eliminates threads that have already been posted 100 times. Encouraging people to use the search bar imo, would help A LOT.


    Luka
     
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  13. Hawkster

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    agree with wizard, the point of a forum is for people old and new to seek help. Stopping new people from being able to post a thread would damage BHW. Yeah there are newbies who's sole intentions are to troll, scam or whatever but from what i have seen they are easily sniffed out and ignored/reported. The ones looking for genuine help almost always get good answers from the good guys here.
     
  14. BreaknBrix

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    This is a pipe dream dude. The first thing you wanna do when a newbie registers is make them feel welcome and like they're "part of a community".

    You don't wanna segregate them to the extent where many wind up leaving, traffic will drop and so will profits. And to be honest, BHW already segregates the shit out of noobs. This was one of the most unwelcoming forums I ever joined when I was new. And I did NOT feel welcome or like I was part of any community.

    First, there were the rules ALREADY in place which I absolutely despised.

    I couldn't post a link to anything. In fact, 50% of all the posts I wrote I couldn't even post cause BHW's moderation system would block them. And whats worse was I wasn't doing anything other than writing long posts. There were no links in them, no cursing, the moderation system just kept tripping cause my posts were so damn long. I'd spend 30 minutes sometimes an hour just reading through a post I was trying to make to figure out why it wasn't posting. And till this day I still don't know why so many posts weren't going through.

    That frustrated me A LOT. When you have something important to say, need help, then the mod system pops up and basically says "eat shit noob, all that shit you just poured your heart into writing... take it somewhere else". So I went back to hanging out at Warrior Forum and told myself, "eff BHW".

    Then of course the moderation system went away and now I hate WaFo and love this place.

    But you really need to understand how restrictive things already are. The automatic moderation system on here can drive a person crazy. It says not to post links but it doesn't say, "you can't post more than 300 words". And I got the idea this is programmed into the system cause if I made a post like this when I was new, it would 100% be blocked. Even if I removed the word "shit" it would be blocked. Even if there were no links it would be blocked. It's almost like the system was forcing me to make short posts. Not sure why but if you look at my earliest posts you'll notice they are all short as hell. Then the day the mod system went away they all look like this. :)

    -BB
     
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  15. WizGizmo

    WizGizmo Super Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Some new members start out with great, useful posts. Some do not.
    We (the staff) do our best to keep spammers off from our forum.

    In regards to newbies asking for "spoon-feeding", there will always be
    those posts. However, they soon learn that asking for spoon-feeding
    is frowned upon when our members chime in and tell them so.

    We want to give new members a chance. If it turns out that they are
    here for the sole purpose of spamming, scamming, causing trouble, etc.,
    they are soon shown the door. It is also very helpful when our members
    hit the REPORT button whenever they see that someone is not complying
    with our rules.

    We do the best we can guys, and your suggestions are always welcome. :)

    Cheers! - "Wiz"
     
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  16. dudemike

    dudemike Power Member

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    i concur with wizgizmo
     
  17. xlcrash

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    Ok, maybe I was a little harsh with 3 months but every day they are asking same questions and the most common question is "what is the best method to make money"... Some people say how they will learn if they don't post threads??? WTF??? How they know how to use google search to find BHW, the same way they can apply and use BHW search bar to find answers to their questions, there are many threads where they can ask and read what ever they want and easily come to 50 posts... If he want to be valuable member of BHW community then 50 posts is nothing for him... When I started I made 50 posts in one/two days because I was searching through threads, asking questions and learning... Don't get me wrong, every day I give some advice if I have good one to some newbie but here Im mostly refering to those who ask always the same questions and trying to scam...
     
  18. GreenMike

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    As a new member I can mildly agree with this; I am here to just learn and read - aside from my introduction thread I have no interest in making a thread yet I assume some members (as i have on other forums) wish to join and start selling right away. Two sides to the issue but I wouldn't oppose a posting restriction but I'm just here to learn not to sell
     
  19. xlcrash

    xlcrash Senior Member

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    Members like you are always very welcome... You can learn by reading so many threads here, so many journeys where you can ask what ever you want to know...
     
  20. jazzc

    jazzc Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    I find it nicely ironic that this post was not posted in the dedicated sub-forum we have for members to posts suggestions :) If old members don't know everything, how can one be hard on the new ones?
     
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