My recent experiment with 64 Web2.0

Nargil · Feb 7, 2017

fb3003 said:
no automated web 2.0. pure manual web 2.0 with good content that is relevant to the PBN it is linking to. is that ok?

also, what OK link building do you consider safe and useful for increasing PBN authority? assuming social media share is one of them.

I've already said, that I do not advise building any links to your PBN sites. What's their point then? PBN domains should have enough power that you don't have to do anything else with them. With this approach, you can buy fresh domains and point web 2.0s to them. If you want to build web 2.0s to them, then do some, for me it's a waste of time when you can rather buy a bit stronger PBN domain and the result will be the same. Hand built web 2.0 quality properties are for money sites. And you can pump THOSE with crappy PBN links. The other way around it's a waste of money and time and it's not the safest thing to do at all. Stop trying to make me say what you want to hear please.

And social signals to PBNs are fine.

fb3003 · Feb 7, 2017

Nargil said:
I've already said, that I do not advise building any links to your PBN sites. What's their point then? PBN domains should have enough power that you don't have to do anything else with them. With this approach, you can buy fresh domains and point web 2.0s to them. If you want to build web 2.0s to them, then do some, for me it's a waste of time when you can rather buy a bit stronger PBN domain and the result will be the same. Hand built web 2.0 quality properties are for money sites. And you can pump THOSE with crappy PBN links. The other way around it's a waste of money and time and it's not the safest thing to do at all. Stop trying to make me say what you want to hear please.

And social signals to PBNs are fine.

thank you for your time. Really appreciate it.

cheers

danbarqami · Feb 7, 2017

OK so just because your 2.0 are not indexed you say that there are not working anymore. I am sure many people arelaughing at you right now. I strongly suggest that find a way to index your 2.0. Traditional methods and indexing service do not work anymore regardless of wether you a 2.0 or other types of links. A lot has been said about new indexing strategies, search the forum and you will find a lot.

ThePozatoOne · Feb 7, 2017

Nargil said:
I've already said, that I do not advise building any links to your PBN sites. What's their point then? PBN domains should have enough power that you don't have to do anything else with them. With this approach, you can buy fresh domains and point web 2.0s to them. If you want to build web 2.0s to them, then do some, for me it's a waste of time when you can rather buy a bit stronger PBN domain and the result will be the same. Hand built web 2.0 quality properties are for money sites. And you can pump THOSE with crappy PBN links. The other way around it's a waste of money and time and it's not the safest thing to do at all. Stop trying to make me say what you want to hear please.

And social signals to PBNs are fine.

Can you recommend any trustworthy and relevant articles about SEO?

Searching around the web I only seem to find millions of SEO gurus with completely contradicting opinions regarding this matter.

Nargil · Feb 7, 2017

ThePozatoOne said:
Can you recommend any trustworthy and relevant articles about SEO?

Searching around the web I only seem to find millions of SEO gurus with completely contradicting opinions regarding this matter.

Finding relevant information which isn't shit is like crawling through sewer looking for gold. Here and there you will find some gold, but mostly it's just shit. You are in that "sewer crawling" phase now and there isn't any shortcut to gain the experience. Continue reading the articles and threads here on BHW and use your head. And test test test, burn money, test, burn money, get depressed, test test test, win, make money. That's how it goes with SEO

whatsapp · Feb 7, 2017

Nail on the head. I have ranked plenty of client websites with this strategy, some easy keywords, some hard, all ranked, time taken is the only difference. Web 2.0's must have unique, quality readable, engaging content, ie treat them like a money site. You can then blast some cheap PBN links at this tier, and GSA at the next tier if you want. Although I seldom bother with GSA.

godspeed007 said:
OP you really need to check the quality of your web 2.0s. All of my web 2.0s usually get indexed within a couple of days. Key is to add high quality content in the web 2.0s and build decent quality Tier 2 followed by a lot backlinks in Tier 3.

Backlinko has some good articles, especially those from a few years ago when he was trying to carve out his name as an SEO guru.

ThePozatoOne said:
Can you recommend any trustworthy and relevant articles about SEO?

Searching around the web I only seem to find millions of SEO gurus with completely contradicting opinions regarding this matter.

The SEO · Feb 7, 2017

Performing the same experiments after a month or 2 to check the index rate. The last one results (80 Web 2.0s and 22 Docs and Profiles) so far after just submitted the links to 5 different indexers including Web 2.0 indexer:

Its been just 2 weeks, now I'm going to blast with GSA 50K+ links and I'm sure the index rate will be above 80%. So not agreed with your statement OP that 0 index rate after 2 weeks.

barbara83 · Feb 7, 2017

fb3003 said:
any chance you captured key metrics like TF & PA before and after you had web 2.0 placed? I am really interested to see if you were able to improve on those metrics as the result of your web 2.0.

thanks in advance

Nargil said:
Google doesn't care about the metrics. And unless you are buying or registering an expired web 2.0, neither should you. It's already in place and only thing you should care about is SERP improvement.

Nargil said:
Between metrics and Serp... minimal. I can be ranking with 200 hidden PBNs and have TF of 0 or I can be ranking nowhere and have 200 high TF blog comments and have TF of 40. So correlation there is pretty small. Also, TF and metrics measure only off site SEO, so even though the site has high metrics, it may not rank for crap, due to terrible onsite, super hard KWs, etc.

Exactly like what Nargil said. Metrics doesn't matter at all. Nargil knows I don't care abt metrics whatsoever. TBH, I have never even care about my money sites metrics. All I track for is my site's ranking, why waste time and effort on increasing your site's metrics? All you should care about is your site's ranking. For PBNs, I don't even look for metrics, I only care abt the backlinks that it have.

V said:
These two are the best replies to your experiment about web 2.0s not getting indexed. I manually create all my web 2.0s with hand-written/manually spun content, and ALL OF THEM ARE INDEXED. Follow Nargil's advice, and use manually rewritten articles if you cannot afford unique hand-written articles. Then create some backlinks to these web 2.0s and you will rank for sure. Don't believe people who say that seo is dead, they are most probably already banking hard with seo and doesn't want you as their competitor for all you know. Don't come to conclusions so fast in SEO bro, Google is much more than a mere 64 web 2.0s not getting indexed.

SEO is never dead. We just have to learn to 'evolve' as google get's smarter. Heck, even my cats get smarter every single day. Lol.

fb3003 said:
no automated web 2.0. pure manual web 2.0 with good content that is relevant to the PBN it is linking to. is that ok?

also, what OK link building do you consider safe and useful for increasing PBN authority? assuming social media share is one of them.

I may differ from Nargil when he said never build tier 2s to the PBNs. I randomly hit my PBN sites with social media, and web 2.0s that have unique natural contents. The key is to not leaving a footprint like what Nargil said. For example when you have a 100site network, don't hit all 100 with tier 2s.. randomize and hit about 25% with web 2.0s. Well that's what I do and have found to be safe until now..

barbara83 · Feb 7, 2017

ThePozatoOne said:
Can you recommend any trustworthy and relevant articles about SEO?

Searching around the web I only seem to find millions of SEO gurus with completely contradicting opinions regarding this matter.

Want my best advice that I can give you? After you read experiment them yourself

Be your own guru. I've risked and taken some time/effort/money to experiment, and that's one of the best thing I've did in my IM career.

I've discovered many things that 'seo gurus' or other people claim to not work.. yes they are working perfectly great for me.

Ozzyzig · Feb 8, 2017

Others have said it here, but this is really to help the new folk to the IM world. You really need high quality content. Don't put up content as your tier 1 that is complete shit! Maybe for tier 2 and 3 you can get away with it, but the tier 1 content should be like the content on the money site; well written, thought out and free from errors. It doesn't need to be huge, but it does need to be readable.

ThopHayt · Feb 8, 2017

ThatSEO said:
Could have told you that in 2012

Yep, they got abused back in the day so Google got anal. They are still useful, but you can't just shit out 100 three-page web2.0's with crap content and sit back and enjoy the link juice. They need to be treated like a micro-authoruty site and built up over time with updates and T2 links. Same thing is starting to happen with PBNs.

Remember... "Google Isn't Retarded™"

-ThopHayt

fsatark · Feb 8, 2017

sciita said:
and then use Google "SUBMIT URL"

How do you do this?
The only way to submit url to Google, as far as i know, is only after log-in to your account!
How you are able to submit url without log-in and using tor, vpn and everything alse you mention - aka => anonymously ?????????

iisark · Feb 8, 2017

Web 2.0 links still works, but no all of them. If there is no moderation and anyone can post whatever they want - that is rubbish for me.

patelsnick · Feb 8, 2017

How many unique properties for the total 100? Also, when you say unique articles, do you mean spun plus readable? What about do-follow/nofollow properties?

barbara83 said:
Exactly this.

I just created 100 web 2.0, using REALLY unique articles ranging from 500-1k words. All of the 100 web 2.0s are new, and not expired. Posted some authority links on the articles along with video and pictures.

Blast GSA to those 100 web 2.0s... and voila within 3days of blasting.. they are all indexed, some are even ranked from page 3-10...

And the website that received the links from the web 2.0.. is now ranked nicely at page 2 for it's main keyword which is a 40k + search keyword, along with it secondary keywords popping up at page 2 - 5. This website got backlinks just from those 100 web 2.0

And no, i didn't even use exact match anchors or partial match anchors. Strictly naked urls/brand/generic

Ehhhhhh.... but anyway SEO is dead. It's time you use google adwords OP

barbara83 · Feb 9, 2017

patelsnick said:
How many unique properties for the total 100? Also, when you say unique articles, do you mean spun plus readable? What about do-follow/nofollow properties?

All unique web 2.0s. Mix of do-follow/no-follow properties.

Unique = Complete handwritten. I have my ways to get really cheap native handwritten articles that are cheaper than the so-called "manually editted spinned articles" sold on BHW. Lol.

Karim · Apr 30, 2017

barbara83 said:
Exactly this.

I just created 100 web 2.0, using REALLY unique articles ranging from 500-1k words. All of the 100 web 2.0s are new, and not expired. Posted some authority links on the articles along with video and pictures.

Do you create your own youtube videos to use on these web2.0? If yes, do you link from youtube to your money site?

thunderhd · Apr 30, 2017

web 2.0 works . i give T3 links to them .. also SOCIAL signals+ quality content

cham rox · Apr 30, 2017

thunderhd said:
web 2.0 works . i give T3 links to them .. also SOCIAL signals+ quality content

How donyou provide social signals?

Narend · Apr 30, 2017

after i put some content fillers, i use

G+
FB Page
Twitter
Pinterest

and my web2.0s get indexed few days later

unknownmehed · May 1, 2017

barbara83 said:
Exactly this.

I just created 100 web 2.0, using REALLY unique articles ranging from 500-1k words. All of the 100 web 2.0s are new, and not expired. Posted some authority links on the articles along with video and pictures.

Blast GSA to those 100 web 2.0s... and voila within 3days of blasting.. they are all indexed, some are even ranked from page 3-10...

And the website that received the links from the web 2.0.. is now ranked nicely at page 2 for it's main keyword which is a 40k + search keyword, along with it secondary keywords popping up at page 2 - 5. This website got backlinks just from those 100 web 2.0

And no, i didn't even use exact match anchors or partial match anchors. Strictly naked urls/brand/generic

Ehhhhhh.... but anyway SEO is dead. It's time you use google adwords OP

Can you send me all web 2.0 list please?

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