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My first Network Ban For BlackHat. WooHoo! No...wait.. SHIT!

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by Abercrombie, Mar 7, 2009.

  1. Abercrombie

    Abercrombie BANNED BANNED

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    So I posted a thread a while back about my first black-hat buck that I had made using a technique that I learned here at BHW. People said "way to go", "keep it up", "scale up", "GET SOME", etc. The support of this forum is absolutely un-heard of outside of the support I used to pay for.
    So, I thought it only appropriate that I let you all know that I just received a super un-friendly from CJ regarding my removal from the network with no future admittance. No warning, nothing and I have had this account for about 5 years.
    I know ("idiot, using your own account?"). Thing is, the BH method I was using did not seem all that black hat. Simple email submit with blanked referrer. Don't know how or what they figured out or what happened, but they did and something did.
    Oh well. I'm sure there is an answer on these forums about how to get back to good, whether I have to sign up for a new account (some-how), buy one or whatever.
    When I first opened the e-mail, I was completely shocked, growing more and more upset as I read each word in the first sentence, but as quickly as I was like "OH MY GOD, NO!", I was like, "Well fuck you guys. I have BlackHatWorld in my corner. I'll be seeing you soon...... really soon".
     
  2. YoungSlam

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    Good luck
     
  3. toyo

    toyo BANNED BANNED

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    if you're a hacker, hacking google is plain stupid. Likewise, you're a blackhat marketer, going after CJ in your first venture is plain stupid.

    They are the biggest around, and their fraud detection system is the best in the industry.

    ps- CJ has email submits?
     
  4. Diegan

    Diegan Registered Member

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    Thank you for your sharing, I am also starting in the whole BH thingy, and I think the first ban must be tough hehe.

    I believe to do things in CL, you must use anonimous proxies right?
     
  5. antsaoo

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    Well , don't give up and go on youll be getting them :p

    ps. Have found few. Only for UK tho but who knows if theres more
     
  6. Abercrombie

    Abercrombie BANNED BANNED

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    Yah, they have e-mail submits (not many at all). I had no idea blank-referrers were a big deal to them though.... If that wasn't the problem, I don't know what I did....
    I think I will call them just for the hell of it. What would I say though?
    I guess I could use a line from my favorite movie.

    "There are three types of arms deals (marketing methods)"
    "Black being illegal (against TOS), white being legal, and my personal favorite color, gray...."

    Not, sure what they would say to that, but I should come up with something.....
     
  7. shm03

    shm03 Regular Member

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    Just sign up with a new account create your self an anonymous corporation or get a family member to sign up and give then a % cut of your profits. Just use some proxies and make sure your address is different and clear your cookies.
     
  8. Abercrombie

    Abercrombie BANNED BANNED

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    Roger that shm03! My twin already has a Adsense account for me and my other brother would eat hot coals for a buck. That will be a quick fix. The corp thing may take some research, so I suppose I will...well, research it.
     
  9. magcshroom

    magcshroom Regular Member

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    You should fake the referrer. Blank referrer is a dead giveaway to companies. I would have to agree that CJ has some of the best detection systems in place. I was faking the referrer, had junk traffic, and was doing my own offers. I still got paid the 2k, but I was banned shortly after. They said I had the same browser version, and some other technical info that was the same O_O.
     
  10. Abercrombie

    Abercrombie BANNED BANNED

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    Were you IMG stuffing? Flash is better if that is the case....
     
  11. zSpyderx

    zSpyderx Junior Member

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    Flash = Best method hands down. Blank referrers are almost always a give away or cause suspicion which is something you always want to avoid.
     
  12. YoungSlam

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    Is there an example on the board on how to do that
     
  13. noah37

    noah37 Regular Member

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    I wonder if CJ will give you the real reason for banning your account. It would be interesting to know.