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Micro niche sites or amazon/click bank sites

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by bounceback, Jun 13, 2015.

  1. bounceback

    bounceback Newbie

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    There are a lot of people who seem to have issues with micro niche sites in general making any kind of real money. My question is there any money in these with proper SEO? Should I go with micro niche adsense or just an amazon or click bank site? The people who say they are making some money seem to have 20-80 websites. How much money would it costs monthly for that much seo?
     
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  2. brettehl

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    I guess it really depends on how "Micro" these sites are. I've had "Micro Niche Sites" in the past that made $250 a month, and they definitely could be more than that.

    I think the goal is to just focus on the right keywords, and not keywords that only will make you $20 a month. So instead of having 100 sites to make $2000 a month you only need a handful.
     
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    Its all depends upon you , the keywords you choose if it is less difficult to rank and having a good amount of traffic volume it would be gem for you you could have 50 or 100 of micro niche sites 4 or 5 digit earning for sure ;)
     
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    So it seems I should focus on sites with more authority and the right keywords. I am just trying to see which way would actually be best and what kind of capital is needed to really see good results. $200-500 or maybe more.
     
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    for me microniche sites are a thing of the past so instead i would suggest putting all those microniche sites into one authority site and have a 100+ page authority site in which you can target countless keywords from one domain.
     
  6. Jack Torrance

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    My niche site does $400 a month so far, my second niche also collects around $400. Last year the first niche site was doing $1800+ per month (£1200) but it got hit by Penguin and only slightly recovered with the next update. So far I have found Amazon to be absolutely TERRIBLE, but it depends on what you're trying to sell I guess. For example, if people aren't really going to the page wanting to buy something then you will actually LOSE money by putting Amazon on the site and distracting attention from your CPC ads.

    Clickbank I enjoy but it's hard to get people to buy... Unless, again, people are desperate or looking for something with the intention, expectation or willingness to part with money. A lot of informational terms where people are only looking for info will NOT convert with Amazon or CB.

    I am about to begin experimenting with CB and Amazon again. I have two sites that I will have visitors to within the next few months.
     
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    Do you just have two websites total for micro niche or niche related sites? I am preparing to invest in micro niche sites and I am just trying to make sure I got at it the correct way. I know mistakes will be made along the way but I want to make less of them as possible. I want to know the number to get a clear idea on how many it will take to actually make a decent profit. I want to know what seo sources you use to put me in the right direction. Looking at bhw there are so many different ones available but most of them may be no good especially for niche related sites. I see many guys offering packages with 30+ sites and etc for a set price but wouldn't it take a lot of money invested in seo per month to keep that many afloat? There are many people who state they have taken a dive into micro sites but ended up losing. I am trying to feel my way through as I know sometimes people fail because they did not work hard enough at it or stay committed.
     
  8. Jack Torrance

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    Yes I have only 2 sites total currently. Last year I had one website in total, and that single website was bringing in around $1800 until the Penguin update. Currently I have two websites which are bringing me around $400 to $500 each. I have set up 2 new sites to experiment with Amazon and Clickbank. If Amazon and CB don't convert again I'll just put AdSense up on those too.

    No SEO sources are good. Seriously, every service is shit, 99% don't even work and the other 1% will help you short term until the next animal update. This is how it has been since some time in 2013 or 2014 it might have been I forget. When I first made a website I was getting to the top of Google with the worst of the worst spam Wiki and blog comment services, didn't have a clue what I was doing but it worked because everything worked. Then there was an UNNAMED (?) update when people started saying there's a "ranking delay" (anybody remember what I mean?) and then NOTHING worked at all anymore, not even a single service could budge my sites past page 2. You won't get anything that's more than marginally better than Fiverr here. I am only really interested in using the manual Web 2.0 creation services and anything where the service will help take away some of the legwork (I won't have to spend hours upon hours setting up a bunch of accounts and designing crappy blogs). You can look at Guest Post services too... But ultimately you NEED to have 100% control over every single link to your site, the anchor, the website it's placed onto, you need to know the domain in advance, the article they will use... Everybody who isn't you wants to give you nothing but spam, spam, spam with broken English articles and take your money. Doesn't even matter who they are, the most reputable providers also give you crap Engrish articles on spam sites.

    Actually, I suspect most of the "reputable providers", the big names, don't even DO any SEO for clients on here. They just lend their name to some other guy who's probably crap and then take a cut. You see it all the time "*Reputable Name* & GuyYou'veNeverHeardOf PRESENTS... BIEBER SEO!!! AMAZIN RESULTS LOL!!!". Sort of like a franchise, like McDonald's or something. I tried some stuff like this for Tier 2 and it did absolutely nothing.

    IMO people fail when they try to target something super competitive, there's just no f*ckin' way you're gonna crack some markets, seriously. You need to get into the right topic. You just don't have the resources to compete for shit like "Payday Loans", you need tonnes of money etc. etc. it's not always about dedication. There are probably still topics out there that are SO low competition you can get page one with, like, one shit Tumblr backlink lol.
     
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    All true. Especially about the part of controlling all your links so you can make necessary changes when needed. It's hard now. Harder than ever before
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  10. catblue

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    I vote for amazon stores and sites, people nowadays need stores. They just not like single post sites.
     
  11. 008Rohit

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    Find some buyer-friendly keywords. Target for around 8-10K MS in total (your main kw, secondary ones and a few long tail ones combined).

    Post A LOT of content. Interlink them. Let the juice flow naturally. Wait for 2 months. Build HQ Web 2.0s (only 2-3) manually. Power them up with medium-price PBN posts (no spun shit). Start building/buying/whatever links from decent, relevant sites in your niche to your site naturally (you can donate to universities etc as well for some links). Diversify the anchor texts REALLY well. I like to use niche specific blog comments for that. Finally, don't over-optimize the on-page SEO of your site. There's no reason you shouldn't see results unless you commit a big blunder unknowingly.
     
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    It depends, I have sites with varying amounts of content depending on the particular KW difficulty & profitability per niche. I wouldn't suggest a 2005-style 5 page micro niche site due to more recent updates, but I've seen good results with as little as 25 pages of content, depending upon the niche. I had a site late year which only had 20 pages of content, but continued to produce well over 2000/mo in revenue, and now generates a lot more as I saw an opportunity and dumped tons of quality content into the site. If you set up a big range of niche sites, you can see which ones perform best, and add quality content into them and really see growth. In a field as volatile as SEO, you need to be adaptable and a lot of the time that means basing your actions based on what is working in the present.

    I see a lot of people on the forums which have a lot of SEO "ideologies". They try to make topics like this and dry, when they aren't. I really doubt there is a micro-niche site distinction in Google's algorithm, and if there is, what is the post number cutoff? Just experiment with different amounts of content, and it varies from niche to niche from my experience. You don't need to actively promote all of the content, but it can give you a bit more authority in Google's eyes, not to mention natural links and internal links.
     
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    Wow! i have learnt a lot just reading through this thread, thanks guys.
     
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    This ^^

    It might take more time and effort to get there but building a large site that services a profitable niche is a much better bet in 2016.
     
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    I started a niche site 30 days ago and it has 856 page views, 2 sales for $5.07. Probably 80% of traffic is social media through my factual blog posts, the review pages are between page 2 and 16 with low search traffic. I have no pbn and not many backlinks. The site I modelled on I discovered part of their network, 1 tumblr with 5 posts and 10 different keywords, plus 100 pr0 pbn domains and 1500 backlinks.

    I don't think there is much chance of outranking them to get on page 1, its quite a competitive niche. All the micro sites in this niche are using Amazon links and the average cost of the product is $50, 1 in 30 of converting a sale when they get onto Amazon. So you need high search volumes to make it worthwhile.

    I didn't buy a EMD domain, but a general niche name, so I'm looking at dropshipping too with ppc ads.
     
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    If you can find a medium competition keyword, good amount of traffic, and beyond everything else the perfect product/products to promote, you can walk on your way to the bank with a broad smile every month. All it takes is one project to start with.