Discussion in 'Pinterest' started by William702, Feb 25, 2018.
Thanks for sharing, I hope it still works now
My pleasure. I'm still seeing results and I cant see Pinterest changing the way it does thing that much so I expect you can count on this for a while.
I have a niche which is very popular in Pinterest Germany. My website is German of course.
Now in a nutshell, to drive traffic with your method I need to follow these steps, correct?
1) Create e.g. 4 Pinterst accounts.
2) Manually create boards, pin images and start following people for a couple of days.
3) Try to get invited into huge boards
4) For each product/image schedule 90 daily pins per account to the boards from step 3
Is this about correct? I'm not yet very familiar with Pinterest.
What would be the hardest part? To get invited into the boards?
Do my accounts need to have own boards and genuine followers?
in one short word, no, it's wrong.
create one account, create 5 perfect pins and share them once to an engagement group ;-)
pinterest changed it's algo since this thread was created.
all expect number 4. i dont do 90 for each pin. I pin up to 90 pins a day and that is randomized between the boards and the pins in the package. so if they have 20 items to promote it picks one of those at random and if i have 60 boards they are going to it chooses one of those at random too and makes the pin. for some people getting the invites is the hardest and for some its getting the clients. Your accounts need to look real, so a few random boards of interest to whatever it is you are using them to promote would work well.
That's a sweeping statement. I'm sure Pinterest change their algorithm frequently. I have seen no baring on this method though if you could call it a method. I am still seeing the same results with new clients and older pins from older packages are doing even better. If anything has changed it has changed for the better from what I am seeing. All of the pins from previous packages are still showing where they showed or higher. What changes are you referring to and do you have more specific info you can share such as when this reportedly happened and why you think its changed this. Are things not working for you in this way or are you just happier with the way you are doing it?
There is definitely nothing wrong with what you suggested but its 6 of one and half a dozen of the other. You are talking about making a few pins and having others inflate the numbers by using engagement groups. all this method is, is doing it yourself by pinning in mass numbers. its essentially the same effect that you have complete control over it. dont get me wrong repins from thousands of random accounts will send better social signals and more organic traffic in the beginning but the end outcome is the same. I would not say that this does not work because it does, you're just talking about another way of doing it. With these groups do you not have to spend time engaging with others posts to have them interact with yours, I don't use them so I dont know? I'm not trying to shit on the idea because it's one that works very well for specific promotions and niches but one thing is for sure if any changes have happened it has not changed how this works.
Thanks for your perspective and sharing your experience.
Thanks for your input. Where can I find engagement groups? I found a couple on FB, but they are rather focused on specific niches.
Thanks for clarifying. Are you still using Tailwind? It looks rather expensive when using with e.g. 10 accounts.
One more question...
Do you use proxies or vpn for the different accounts or you use the same IP adress for all of the accounts.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and insight.
My pleasure and thank you. No I have never used proxies. I dont use hundreds of accounts. I use a few dozen and even then I dont use them all at the same time. I also very very rarely log into an account on Pinterest. I almost always do it through the extension for the app I use.
You're not the first person to say this and some have even accused me of being the owner of Tailwind and this is just me promoting it LOL. It costs way less than I make using it. I didn't even have to pay for my first few accounts and have full access on them. I even have access to the enterprise level features although think I never took advantage of them. I use it strictly as a tool to post pins to group boards. It works for me so I stuck with it. I make hundreds of dollars a month of each account so the $10 was not much of an issue for me. Also this is more mainstream and much more likely not to raise any red flags in my opinion.
If you can find a free way of doing the same thing then go for it. I dont have time to mess around with learning how to use a new bot or creating an imacro.
Does TailWind even provide the option to use multi-IP addresses?....I have spent time looking online and could not find a definitive answer?.
That's a really good question and I highly doubt they have a function in the app but I have never looked for one. I dont really know enough about proxies to be able to give an answer and I dont want to sound dumb. I have never used them so I dont even know how to set them up or anything technical about them. If I had to guess I would say no they dont support proxies.
well...engagement groups are, by their very nature, always niche specific. Why would you ever want a fitness account reblog your wedding party suggestions?
They are still rolling things out, so it will probably take one more month.
Pins that already lifted off are not gonna see the change, obviously. They already would have great engagement stats and thus will be fed to users (except they are giraffe pins).
you will see diminishing returns on new pins, though. Pinterest has said that, so far, they are treating all engagement equally and not rank it. So a repin would be the same as a click-through or a comment. The way they put it in the last few interviews suggests that they might value a "tried it" or a comment higher than a repin pretty soon. They also said group boards are slowly dying.
they also said (though google says a lot as well ) that repinning the same pin to multiple boards is something they wouldn't recommend and rather launch NEW pins for the same post.
but hey, if things still work out for you, great ;-)
Thanks, do you have any links to any of this information that Pinterest a d google are supposed to have said
I agree repining the same pin is a bad idea. I have said this all along. I dont repin a pin over and over I make new pins for each one. I might pin something a hundred times but each pin is a new pin, that's the whole point of this. it's to inflate the pins not repins.
I think he is referring to the random ones, ones that are just for clicks, repins that dont really care about what it is, they just want content. trust me i know what you are saying but lots of these types of groups exist, that's why some people dont find them as productive.
started a new thread so the information doesn't vanish in the gutter: https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/official-pinterest-webinar-free.1028175/
How does that work when you're promoting product pins for a client? He's not going to give you 100 different images of the same product. Or do you mean changing the descriptions for each account you're using to loop them?
Awesome, thank you for sharing the link.
The app makes new pins it does not repin one over and over.
@William702 Do you consider the repining rate of boards you pin to? Would it be worth it to pin to a huge group board of 50k members with repining rate of 0.2
Yes I do consider it. I use all sorts of boards ranging from a few hundred members with around 5k pins to some of the ones with tens of thousands of pinners and over a million pins.
My advice is to separate them into different groups. With the app I use it allows you to make board lists. I can create a list with all the huge ones where pins move really fast and I make lists with the smallest ones so that I don't pin too often. If I am using the list of boards with lots of activity I increase the pin frequency or at least use less boards so that the pins I am sending out only get pinned across a few boards and thus get pinned more often.
Separating them into lists like this is only really needed for the smaller boards to make sure you are not pinning too much, with the larger ones you cant really pin enough to keep up anyway but a pin is a pin. All it takes is for one person that likes it to repin it and the whole thing could snowball from there so I don't discount them because of this.
If a board is really huge just use more accounts until you are happy with the rate of pins going out to it. It's all about using common sense. I see people pinning way too often on small boards and before you know it they are no longer a member.
Edit: sorry just read your question again and think I misunderstood it, what do you mean by repining rate of 0.2?
From my understanding repin rate in board booster is called virality score in tailwind. That is what i was referring to. It is a measure of how active a board is. it is a measure of the tendency of a pin on a board to get repinned. Thanks
I see what you are talking about now. No I dont take that into account. I use all the boards I am a member of. At the end of the day this is all automated anyway so I dont get rid of small boards. I use them all
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